Dugger vs Dunham

[Midnightrider]

You seem to have very little understanding of the mind of a 14 year old. But since you NEVER like to do your own homework….. HERE is the police report. Crime/Incident: Forcible Fondling.

I’ll answer your trap question from both sides. But I will qualify my comments with – I have raised two kids; a boy and a girl. Both are now adults. So I am qualified to provide this answer.

If my son had done such a thing, I would have marched him over to each girl’s home and he would not only apologize to the girls, but he would apologize to the parents. Then, if I felt it was necessary, I would get him help. Otherwise, he’s getting locked in his room for a very long time with some very interesting books to read, in which he will write reports on, until I was absolutely certain he got the message about what he had done wrong. It’s about parenting. It’s about PARENTS holding their children accountable. I happen to think this is a far better tool for correcting your child than having then deemed sex offenders.

If it were my daughter this had happened to, I would take her to the boy’s house, reveal this to his parents, and demand an apology and that something will be done about this bad behavior. If the parents and boy was defiant, then I am likely to tell them to expect the police at their door soon. But I would have at least made the effort to remedy the situation internally.

Unlike you… I have no desire to ruin a 14 year old kid’s life when these things can easily be handled without having him deemed a sex offender at 14. I understand that a kids at 14 is going to do stupid things that they don’t completely understand the consequences of. It’s my job as a parent to make sure they get it. The law is only going to PUNISH; not teach lessons.

Josh Duggar not only apologized, but he asked for each girl’s forgiveness; which he got. Josh Duggar went on with his life, the problem dealt with; but now, almost 10 years later folks want to dredge #### up because it’s an opportunity to bash Christians; that is at the root of all of this.

that police report makes things worse, not better IMO. All it shows is that this guy was a serial toucher and his victims varied in age. For all we know he touched a lot more kids and no one knew. That's why it should be a police matter.

And am calling BS. I am pretty sure that you, like me, would be more protective than that of your little girl. There is no way you take your little girl to face her offender and give him the chance to end it with an apology. Its a ####ing sexual assault.

 

[vraiblonde]

How about since it wasn't reported to the police we really don't know the extent of his perversion. He might not have fussed up to everything. There may be victims out there that are living with being molested who will get no justice.

Wow, talk about projecting and making #### up.

Whatever. There's no talking to you. Now you've made up a whole slew of fictitious victims who have yet to come forward, so yeah - you've jumped the fridge with this and become officially ridiculous.

 

[PsyOps]

And am calling BS. I am pretty sure that you, like me, would be more protective than that of your little girl. There is no way you take your little girl to face her offender and give him the chance to end it with an apology. Its a ####ing sexual assault.

See... even when I tell you what I would do you reject it. You just want to be argue just to argue and be right just to be right. Like Vrai said (and I said) you will make your own facts up just to be right.

This is why I refuse to get mired up in your endless cycle of nonsense.

 

[Hijinx]

So it is a problem for the church to handle sexual abuse internally and not call the police? Why would that be any different for Duggar?

There is a difference between a grown man under cover of religion molesting a child be it boy or girl, and a 14 year old boy feeling up another 14 year old, but you would not understand that. Or maybe you do but just like to argue.

 

[GURPS]

The Left is Frothing, Raving and Losing Its Mind Over the Fall of House Duggar
The Left and the world share a visceral hatred of God and Christians while defending their own heroes


Fast forward to 2015, and an extremely painful situation for a very public Christian family.

I dove headfirst into the cauldron of insanity over the weekend with three posts on my personal blog about Josh Duggar (here, here, and here). The first post went viral, causing no end of awful comments and tweets.

I won’t go into the contents of my posts here—Josh Duggar did some really horrible stuff to his sisters 12 years ago and avoided any real punishment—but the fact that he appears to have straightened up and given his life over to Christ threw the left into “tilt.”

There will be distortions. Oh yes, the distortions and accusations have barely even begun. They’ll call him a serial molester. They’ll extend the accusations to his father Jim Bob, who reported the incident to the police himself, according to the New York Daily News. They’ll paint the whole family as Branch Davidians and Jim Bob as David Koresh.​

After dealing with Twitter trolls, I finally asked one question I thought would open a fruitful conversation: “Seriously to the #JoshDuggar trolls: what would you like to see happen?”

I got one useful answer (amid a whole bunch of profanity-laced tirades and threats to rape my wife):

Roman P anyone :shrug: or Whoopie G 'Rape Rape'

 

[tblwdc]

Show me a boy at 16 who hasn't tried to feel up a girl and I will show you a man who has a problem with his sexual identity.
Now a sleeping girl is a little creepy, but boys engaging in a little breast feeling or fingering is pretty normal.
The jails would be full of them if prosecuted.

I believe the information is he was fourteen, (maybe it continued to 16) and some of those girls were his younger sisters. I believe I could show you numerous people who have not done that.

 

[vraiblonde]

I believe I could show you numerous people who have not done that.

Of course, but it's also not unheard of among siblings.

And really, who gives a crap about this 10 years later when by all accounts there have been no repeat incidents and the ? Why is this a thing now? His father was the one who turned him in to the police, so why are the tards saying there was some cover up?

You have to wonder why the usual suspects are so wrapped around the axle about this.

 

[PsyOps]

Of course, but it's also not unheard of among siblings.

And really, who gives a crap about this 10 years later when by all accounts there have been no repeat incidents and the ? Why is this a thing now? His father was the one who turned him in to the police, so why are the tards saying there was some cover up?

You have to wonder why the usual suspects are so wrapped around the axle about this.

Christian = hypocrite... even if it's a 14 year old. Hang 'em all!

 

[tblwdc]

Which one of her stories are we supposed to believe?

But like I said, if he did it he should be prosecuted. Apparently she filed an affidavit saying he didn't, so that's going to be a hard one to prove....

I don't think we have to believe any of hers, but we could believe the people she saw and told after the rape. The nurse who found her distraught doesn't seem to have any reason to lie. It doesn't seem probable she would make that up, then concoct a false story decades later. Your mind is made up however, I don't suppose you would look at it objectively.

 

[tblwdc]

Of course, but it's also not unheard of among siblings.

And really, who gives a crap about this 10 years later when by all accounts there have been no repeat incidents and the ? Why is this a thing now? His father was the one who turned him in to the police, so why are the tards saying there was some cover up?

You have to wonder why the usual suspects are so wrapped around the axle about this.

I would agree with you that behavior such as that is normal adolescent curiosity. Doing it to multiple other children however, in my opinion, goes outside of the scope of normality.

Perhaps the report I read was wrong, but it indicated the father had a friend of his who was a state trooper speak to the boy. When on duty officers attempted to speak with the children, the father blocked that access. The report could be wrong, but that is what I read.

 

[Hijinx]

Of course, but it's also not unheard of among siblings.

And really, who gives a crap about this 10 years later when by all accounts there have been no repeat incidents and the ? Why is this a thing now? His father was the one who turned him in to the police, so why are the tards saying there was some cover up?

You have to wonder why the usual suspects are so wrapped around the axle about this.

I don't have to wonder at all. It's the old jealous Bs about bringing someone down.
The guy is doing well now and the a-holes cannot stand that, they have to bring him down.
Didn't we see it with Romney
Didn't we see it with something as stupid as spelling potato wrong with a Vice president?
We see the idiot Joe Biden daily making stupid remarks, but a republican spells potato wrong and the a-holes jump all over him.

It's just the small people who do not want to see anyone get ahead unless that person is a liberal.
We saw this when Fritz ran for States Attorney. A few enemies bringing up BS to make their miserable lives feel better by bringing down someone else.

These same people want criminals to be allowed to vote because they have changed their lives in prison, but a person who has not been to prison cannot change, they want to see the crucifixion. It isn't hard to understand them. They are pathetic a-holes.

 

[sockgirl77]

I am convinced, however, that Bruce is only becoming a woman so he can hit from the ladies' tees.

I am just now getting around to reading this thread and this happens to be the only entertaining post that I have read so far.

 

[PsyOps]

Perhaps the report I read was wrong, but it indicated the father had a friend of his who was a state trooper speak to the boy. When on duty officers attempted to speak with the children, the father blocked that access. The report could be wrong, but that is what I read.

Unless the cops are going to arrest my child, read him his rights, and charge him with a crime they aren't talking to my child. That's not covering up, that's protecting my child's rights.

 

[tblwdc]

Unless the cops are going to arrest my child, read him his rights, and charge him with a crime they aren't talking to my child. That's not covering up, that's protecting my child's rights.

I don't think it was just the son, but the other potential victim's the father would not let the police speak with.

 

[Bushy23]

Unless the cops are going to arrest my child, read him his rights, and charge him with a crime they aren't talking to my child. That's not covering up, that's protecting my child's rights.

Even if you know your kid is diddling children?? Man, you are a real hero.

 

[PsyOps]

I don't think it was just the son, but the other potential victim's the father would not let the police speak with.

Are you saying Jim Bob wouldn't let the cops talk to the victims? How does that work?

 

[PsyOps]

Even if you know your kid is diddling children?? Man, you are a real hero.

I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not; so I don't know how to respond.

 

[vraiblonde]

Even if you know your kid is diddling children?? Man, you are a real hero.

Why do you have such hatred for this person, whom you don't know, that you are making up weird crap to be outraged over?

 

[Amused_despair]

Either Duggar or Dunham, I wouldn't give a glass of water to either if they were drowning. Once a pedophile always one. That's why we make laws to keep them from handing out Halloween candy or living near schools, why they have to register forever. Because they will always be a pedophile. I wouldn't trust a child alone with either one. If you think just because someone is religious that all of a sudden that changes everything.... there are plenty of examples of religious people who have used their religion to hide their attacks on children and adults.

I think the reason for the uproar is because Americans love to tear into hypocrites. Whether it is a politician who runs on a platform of family values and then is caught with his mistress or a politician who is anti-gay and also looking for dates with others of his sex.

 

[PsyOps]

Either Duggar or Dunham, I wouldn't give a glass of water to either if they were drowning. Once a pedophile always one.

How do you people conclude that a 14 year is a pedophile?