Ear Infection Woes

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Interestingly that is what the Vet said to me about my dog, that using Pred off/on may be all I can do for him. I would not want that to be the answer to this. So that's why I am experimenting with different foods based on their protein/grain content. MAYBE I can isolate the allergen that way, if not maybe the swab test will show something?

Does the problem make YOUR dogs ears smell? Did you try any non-grain foods? Different types of protein? Did the vet ever swab the ear to grow and identify the possible culprit?



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Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
Bison - figured I'd try the Salmon next if the Bison didn't work out ....

Hopefully it works because it's grain free. I noticed it has chicken meal in it. That crap makes me mad...why throw the chicken in there? They're doing good with the novel proteins like bison and venison, but then they have to go and throw chicken in there. I like TOTW, but have only fed the Pacific Stream.
 

ArkRescue

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I didn't read the ingredients label before I left with it - I ASSumed it only had Bison in it. So maybe my next bag will be Salmon then. Just shows how many times we look at the packaging pictures and go - OK this looks good :stupid: .

Hopefully it works because it's grain free. I noticed it has chicken meal in it. That crap makes me mad...why throw the chicken in there? They're doing good with the novel proteins like bison and venison, but then they have to go and throw chicken in there. I like TOTW, but have only fed the Pacific Stream.
 
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jp2854

Guest
i think i am going to have to change brunos food again as her tummy is all red due to her licking and chewing at it so much. i am going to see if we can stop at peppers pet pantry on teh way home from going to prince frederick and see if ff can help me pick out a food that would make sense. Is she the only one who works there or will i have to ask for her?
 

sanchezf

Little ol' Me
Interestingly that is what the Vet said to me about my dog, that using Pred off/on may be all I can do for him. I would not want that to be the answer to this. So that's why I am experimenting with different foods based on their protein/grain content. MAYBE I can isolate the allergen that way, if not maybe the swab test will show something?

Does the problem make YOUR dogs ears smell? Did you try any non-grain foods? Different types of protein? Did the vet ever swab the ear to grow and identify the possible culprit?

We have tried all different kinds of foods with no results. The vet did do some testing but said nothing came up as to what made her ears this way, told us there is a place in Balt you can take her for testing but its like $10,000 (I just don't have that kind of money). And YES her ears smell awful.
 

ArkRescue

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I'm so sorry about her ears smelling and how you've tried so many things to help her. I really HOPE that the vet can help me tomorrow because I just can't stand seeing him dig at his ears and now I also hear a yelp now and then :bawl: ....

This can't be a good life if his ears are that inflamed that he yelps.

We have tried all different kinds of foods with no results. The vet did do some testing but said nothing came up as to what made her ears this way, told us there is a place in Balt you can take her for testing but its like $10,000 (I just don't have that kind of money). And YES her ears smell awful.
 

frequentflier

happy to be living
i think i am going to have to change brunos food again as her tummy is all red due to her licking and chewing at it so much. i am going to see if we can stop at peppers pet pantry on teh way home from going to prince frederick and see if ff can help me pick out a food that would make sense. Is she the only one who works there or will i have to ask for her?

Someone will be filling in at the store today as I am attending a trade show. I will be there all day tomorrow and Sunday. If you do drop by today, ask her for samples of the TOTW and literature.
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
I'm so sorry about her ears smelling and how you've tried so many things to help her. I really HOPE that the vet can help me tomorrow because I just can't stand seeing him dig at his ears and now I also hear a yelp now and then :bawl: ....

This can't be a good life if his ears are that inflamed that he yelps.

I'm betting the vet will put him on steroids and antibiotics. If the problem is a yeast infection, you are only going to make the situation worse.

You HAVE to break the cycle.
 
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jp2854

Guest
the vet didn't put bruno on steriods for her yeast infections in her hears she put her on some yellow looking gooey drops for her ears. brunos ears are a lot better i didn't get anything to come out of them when i cleaned them yesterday :). I will find out for sure when i take her back in on wednesday at 3pm.
 

ArkRescue

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Update

I used vinegar/water in his ears 1 time each day for 2 days prior to taking him to the vet. Well Friday at the vet I agreed to allow him to be put on Pred again (low dose) and a different ear drop to help stop this inflammation. He was yelping due to his ears so I had to do something to give him some fast relief.

Keep in mind that on Wednesday evening I switched his food abruptly thinking I was helping him get away from the "grain" (and knowing he could have issues with loose stools). Well ..... 2 days later on Saturday the loose stools started. By Sunday he had explosive diarrhea - poor baby. So when he was still having diarrhea yesterday, I mixed brown rice into his food along with a bit of Pepto Bismol. This morning rice and his food. Still no change in the stools.

The vet explained how to try 1 protein and 1 Carbohydrate to see if it helps. Vet said takes 12 weeks to see a difference. Until his stools are stabilized, I can't really change his food.

The next time I will switch him over gradually ....
 
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jp2854

Guest
I used vinegar/water in his ears 1 time each day for 2 days prior to taking him to the vet. Well Friday at the vet I agreed to allow him to be put on Pred again (low dose) and a different ear drop to help stop this inflammation. He was yelping due to his ears so I had to do something to give him some fast relief.

Keep in mind that on Wednesday evening I switched his food abruptly thinking I was helping him get away from the "grain" (and knowing he could have issues with loose stools). Well ..... 2 days later on Saturday the loose stools started. By Sunday he had explosive diarrhea - poor baby. So when he was still having diarrhea yesterday, I mixed brown rice into his food along with a bit of Pepto Bismol. This morning rice and his food. Still no change in the stools.

The vet explained how to try 1 protein and 1 Carbohydrate to see if it helps. Vet said takes 12 weeks to see a difference. Until his stools are stabilized, I can't really change his food.

The next time I will switch him over gradually ....

i was told by my vet if i am ever to change the dogs food you need to mix it half and half for a week to get the dog used to the new food never just take away the old and give the new that is the way you get the dog to have the runs bigtime.

bruno seems to be doing good on the food I have her on now she hasn't had any problems (no itching or chewing at herself except for allergies as she has allergies to grass I guess as everytime I come in she licks her feet and sneezes) but when it gets bad I give her a dose of benadryl and we are all fine again. I have only had to give her benadryl once so far this year and hope that is all i have to do but if i have to do more I will. I care too much about the dog to let it go for too long.

I go back tomorrow to see if the dog still has yeast infections in her ears (I am hoping they are cleared up) if not back on more meds for 2 more weeks to see if we can get it gone. I am tired of treating the dogs ears shes now afraid when I do it she cowers in the corner and whines :(( as to say please don't mess with my ears i really don't like it one bit mom
 

ArkRescue

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Yeah my dog doesn't like the drops in his ears either.

I know not to abruptly switch foods, but I thought by doing so it would help him faster. With his sensitive system I need to switch over slowly.

i was told by my vet if i am ever to change the dogs food you need to mix it half and half for a week to get the dog used to the new food never just take away the old and give the new that is the way you get the dog to have the runs bigtime.

bruno seems to be doing good on the food I have her on now she hasn't had any problems (no itching or chewing at herself except for allergies as she has allergies to grass I guess as everytime I come in she licks her feet and sneezes) but when it gets bad I give her a dose of benadryl and we are all fine again. I have only had to give her benadryl once so far this year and hope that is all i have to do but if i have to do more I will. I care too much about the dog to let it go for too long.

I go back tomorrow to see if the dog still has yeast infections in her ears (I am hoping they are cleared up) if not back on more meds for 2 more weeks to see if we can get it gone. I am tired of treating the dogs ears shes now afraid when I do it she cowers in the corner and whines :(( as to say please don't mess with my ears i really don't like it one bit mom
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
I used vinegar/water in his ears 1 time each day for 2 days prior to taking him to the vet. Well Friday at the vet I agreed to allow him to be put on Pred again (low dose) and a different ear drop to help stop this inflammation. He was yelping due to his ears so I had to do something to give him some fast relief.

Keep in mind that on Wednesday evening I switched his food abruptly thinking I was helping him get away from the "grain" (and knowing he could have issues with loose stools). Well ..... 2 days later on Saturday the loose stools started. By Sunday he had explosive diarrhea - poor baby. So when he was still having diarrhea yesterday, I mixed brown rice into his food along with a bit of Pepto Bismol. This morning rice and his food. Still no change in the stools.

The vet explained how to try 1 protein and 1 Carbohydrate to see if it helps. Vet said takes 12 weeks to see a difference. Until his stools are stabilized, I can't really change his food.

The next time I will switch him over gradually ....

Prednisone. Ugh.

When a dog has diarrhea you take him off of food for 24 hours. NO FOOD and just small amounts of water. Then gradually start back with rice and little chicken...then their food.

I switch up foods every now and then and never have a problem...but I use good quality foods, EVO..Taste of the Wild, etc.
 

ArkRescue

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This boy has issues with any food changes so I knew better than to do this to him. If what I am feeding him is causing the ear inflammation, then I need to figure it out pronto to avoid his suffering.

(Pred) I know, here you can kick me .... :buttkick:

As long as the meds reduce the inflammation it will make us both feel better. I just want to find a long term solution to his inflammation woes.

What would be the least often offending protein to try him on?

Prednisone. Ugh.

When a dog has diarrhea you take him off of food for 24 hours. NO FOOD and just small amounts of water. Then gradually start back with rice and little chicken...then their food.

I switch up foods every now and then and never have a problem...but I use good quality foods, EVO..Taste of the Wild, etc.
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
This boy has issues with any food changes so I knew better than to do this to him. If what I am feeding him is causing the ear inflammation, then I need to figure it out pronto to avoid his suffering.

(Pred) I know, here you can kick me .... :buttkick:

As long as the meds reduce the inflammation it will make us both feel better. I just want to find a long term solution to his inflammation woes.

What would be the least often offending protein to try him on?

It'd be good to try him on a novel protein, like venison, rabbit, fish, etc. You want to find something he hasn't had before if you can. I'd stick with a grain free just to make sure he's not allergic to any grains.
 
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