Eastern anyone?

dazed&fallen

fine artist
Hessian said:
Ok Dazed...can you explain something then...just for the sake of intelligent discussion. If Christ was a moralist, good teacher & debater---and he is credited by the Hindus/Buddhists as such...He must of had a serious psychological problem when he claims that "I and the Father are One"...that along with "The Son of Man" claims that drove the pharisees to tear their clothes and gather stones causes a serious problem with the veracity of his teachings...doesn't it? How can people claim to admire someone who makes such bizarre claims and urge his followers to go to their deaths teaching the same thing?

Is it possible Gandhi just didn't think things through enough???
We are ALL the sons and daughters of God, this was christ's TRUE message.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
dazed&fallen said:
one more time, jesus with a cowboy hat. not christianity, the mindset the fears anything different from what you are used to. the stupidity the kills in that name of god.
So why so much anger towards these christian then?
 

dazed&fallen

fine artist
Bustem' Down said:
So why so much anger towards these christian then?

you misunderstand, it's not anger. i'm saying things that need to be said. this thread was not made for those who are unable to integrate world religions into something meaningful. there is no other way to say this, i'm gonna get flamed either way because i'm in the minority
 

dazed&fallen

fine artist
Just words
Some nouns and verbs
And my spirit
Just hear it
This silence is light
My words have weight
I don’t want a fight
I’d rather mediate
It just puts me in a mood
Sometimes when I feel misunderstood
Some folks would say that I’m a true schismatic
But you think I’m just another stupid addict
You’d say I’m just dreaming
And write me off,
to superimpose your own meaning
Like you need an excuse
to be your own rotten self
Well f**k you then
I won't take your abuse
and I don’t need your help
I’ll crawl into the wilderness
just like a prophet
I knew the truth once
but must have forgotten it.
Right now I have better things to think about
First and foremost how to oppose your authority
Then I’ll gain some notoriety
By deconstructing your society.
 

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Give Peas a Chance
dazed&fallen said:
you misunderstand, it's not anger. i'm saying things that need to be said. this thread was not made for those who are unable to integrate world religions into something meaningful. there is no other way to say this, i'm gonna get flamed either way because i'm in the minority
Well, so you know, in the process you are inadvertantly trying to invalidate thier faith, which is silly because you have no proff that one is better than the other.
 

dazed&fallen

fine artist
Bustem' Down said:
Well, so you know, in the process you are inadvertantly trying to invalidate thier faith, which is silly because you have no proff that one is better than the other.

interior mystical religions are based on a non violent worldview. that makes them better in my eyes. Christianity in it's ideal form is the same, unfortunately people seem to forget this. Pastors manipulate their congregations. if you don't think this is true, read between the lines. If satan can make the bible say anything he wants, you KNOW they can. even if they often do it inadvertantly, it doesn't change the fact. Just make sure you know who is really pulling the strings, don't just chalk it up to a faith presupposition.
 
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Give Peas a Chance
dazed&fallen said:
interior mystical religions are based on a non violent worldview. that makes them better in my eyes. Christianity in it's ideal form is the same, unfortunately people seem to forget this. Pastors manipulate their congregations. if you don't think this is true, read between the lines. If satan can make the bible say anything he wants, you KNOW they can. even if they often do it inadvertantly, it doesn't change the fact. Just make sure you know who is really pulling the strings, don't just chalk it up to a faith presupposition.
I read a quote once that said, "One man's faith is another man's bellylaugh". I believe this applies here both ways and it's why I'm an atheist.




I know I know everyone.....I'm going to Hell. I just preferto call it death.
 

Triggerfish

New Member
Bustem' Down said:
I read a quote once that said, "One man's faith is another man's bellylaugh". I believe this applies here both ways and it's why I'm an atheist.

Are you really an atheist ro an agnostic?
 

Toxick

Splat
dazed&fallen said:
interior mystical religions are based on a non violent worldview. that makes them better in my eyes. Christianity in it's ideal form is the same, unfortunately people seem to forget this.

So, you think Christianity is wonderful, however it's full of jerk Christians.

I feel the same way about Buddhism. It's great. Unfortunately it's full of arrogant prick Buddhists.




dazed&fallen said:
Pastors manipulate their congregations. if you don't think this is true, read between the lines. If satan can make the bible say anything he wants, you KNOW they can.


Indeed. And Christianity is the ONLY one of the world religions which does this.

Bin Laden sez thanx.




Siddhartha Gautama, however, thinks you're a tool.
 

dazed&fallen

fine artist
Bustem' Down said:
I read a quote once that said, "One man's faith is another man's bellylaugh". I believe this applies here both ways and it's why I'm an atheist.




I know I know everyone.....I'm going to Hell. I just preferto call it death.

Siddhartha(buddha) was also an atheist. I like some eastern religions because they encourage you to think for yourself. To many Christians, this is the worst kind of evil. People can call me "self righteous" or "arrogant" all they want, I don't care because I've found God on my own terms. All my life I've seen visions. You could say I'm "psychotic" or "the devil has a hold on me" because that's just the way insecure people think. and you begin to hate what you can't understand because it insults you. I have a dream that one day people will out grow their childish ethnocentricities and openly embrace the hopes and dreams of other cultures without prejudice. If I sound angry, that's fine. I seem to remember Christ raising hell at the temple on one occasion. Believe whatever you want, it's your stupidity that urks me.
 

Triggerfish

New Member
Toxick said:
So, you think Christianity is wonderful, however it's full of jerk Christians.

I feel the same way about Buddhism. It's great. Unfortunately it's full of arrogant prick Buddhists.


Hey, just because you're POed at dazed don't make angry remarks against millions of people you have never met. You're making the same assumptions that he is.
 
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Give Peas a Chance
dazed&fallen said:
I have a dream that one day people will out grow their childish ethnocentricities and openly embrace the hopes and dreams of other cultures without prejudice. If I sound angry, that's fine. I seem to remember Christ raising hell at the temple on one occasion. Believe whatever you want, it's your stupidity that urks me.
The day that happens is the day we stop being humans. I see your attitude as no different that anyone in any other religion. I can say that because I look at them all equally. You say it's fine that people call you arrogant, yet you call them the same. You reek of hipocracy.
 

dazed&fallen

fine artist
Bustem' Down said:
The day that happens is the day we stop being humans. I see your attitude as no different that anyone in any other religion. I can say that because I look at them all equally. You say it's fine that people call you arrogant, yet you call them the same. You reek of hipocracy.

look at yourself and tell me what you see. are you devoid of any values? it's impossible. Atheism is your religion.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
dazed&fallen said:
look at yourself and tell me what you see. are you devoid of any values? it's impossible. Atheism is your religion.
No, but I don't condem or look down on someone for following a different set of values.
 
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