Electric Car News

[Sneakers]

Someone I know recently went on business travel. Upon return and retrieving their personal EV from parking, didn't have enough juice to get home and had to charge. Tried to submit the $6.00 charging bill. Nope, that falls under your mileage.

I get that. If it were an ICE, you provide your own fuel and it's covered in the mileage reimbursement. Just a different fuel for an EV, but you'd still provide it yourself and charge mileage.

I can see an adjustment to the mileage rate based on ICE vs EV.

 

[RoseRed]

I get that. If it were an ICE, you provide your own fuel and it's covered in the mileage reimbursement. Just a different fuel for an EV, but you'd still provide it yourself and charge mileage.

I can see an adjustment to the mileage rate based on ICE vs EV.

I'm curious as to how that will play out. So far, EVs haven't been added to the voucher options.

 

[glhs837]

Evidently he looked at it like a person on vacation looking to charge their EV. Maybe he should have looked at it as someone who is so pro-EV that he should ignore the simple fact that the infrastructure for EV is as real as unicorn farts.

Well, how it impacts your trip depends on what system you are using. Quite considerably. Charging a Tesla on a road trip is light years easier and more convenient than any other network. Plan your trip, and the system handles finding your charging points, tells you if they are working and how full it might be when you get close.

That infrastructure exists and tens of thousands of people use it daily to take road trips of varying sizes. Do that with anyone else's EV, and yes, its gonna suck. That's why I only recommend one brand of EV. Only one brand has deployed the needed infrastructure. And is expanding faster than anyone else.

Someone I know recently went on business travel. Upon return and retrieving their personal EV from parking, didn't have enough juice to get home and had to charge. Tried to submit the $6.00 charging bill. Nope, that falls under your mileage.

Could you find out what that EV was? Lots of times these stories end up being some old EV like a E-Golf or BMW I3 with a silly small range. And that does fall under your mileage. Pretty good rate of return on that POV mileage rate too. I make great money taking my motorcycle on business trips.

 

[glhs837]

I'm curious as to how that will play out. So far, EVs haven't been added to the voucher options.

I imagine that eventually it will be made sperate like motorcycles.

 

[RoseRed]

I imagine that eventually it will be made sperate like motorcycles.

Could you find out what that EV was? Lots of times these stories end up being some old EV like a E-Golf or BMW I3 with a silly small range. And that does fall under your mileage. Pretty good rate of return on that POV mileage rate too. I make great money taking my motorcycle on business trips.

Tesla.

 

[Kyle]

Unless people find a way to make, store and sell electricity to one another - electricity is one thing the government can ultimately control how much anyone gets.

One of the great things about gas, is, it can sit in your tank until you need it. Unlike a battery, which will discharge whether you use it or not.

They claim it'll only drain 1% per day but the small print indicates there are a multitude of features that have to be turned off that would otherwise hasten the batteries decline.

The reality is probably five times that speed.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Seems like an interesting dilemma. Charge EV to drive to airport (BWI, etc.) and park it. Go on 2 week business trip. Return and your EV doesn't have enough juice to get you home. Gotta find a charge and wait around until it can get you home. Who pays for that time?

 

[glhs837]

Tesla.

I'm surprised. Even the lowest have a 250 mile range, even Dulles shouldn't have taxed it too much. I suppose it depends on how long you are gone though. Ah, this might be the issue here.

Airport 10%+ drain daily!

I left my 8 month old model Y at the Sacramento Airport on a Monday with 220 miles of charge left on it. I did not turn off anything just locked it and flew out. On Saturday (6 days) I got a Tesla notice that it had 65 miles left and it was shutting down the security cameras. How could it be...

teslamotorsclub.com

If you leave Sentry Mode (which looks for motion in the eight cameras and records that motion) and/or Advanced Summon enabled, the car never goes to sleep, and you can lose 10% of your charge a day. Whereas turning those off, the drain is 1% a day. You can leave it for weeks at that rate.

 

[glhs837]

They claim it'll only drain 1% per day but the small print indicates there are a multitude of features that have to be turned off that would otherwise hasten the batteries decline.

The reality is probably five times that speed.

So at most, its three.

Sentry Mode
Advanced Summon
Cabin Overheat Protection (only matters when it hot, it activates when the cabin exceeds 105F.)

Takes about a minute tops to shut them off. And I agree, it would be nice to have an Airport/Storage mode that is a quick setting. Who knows, like "Joe Mode", which reduces the internal alert chimes by I think 50%, or "Dog Mode" that lets you set a nice comfy temp for your dogs and displays a message showing that temp in large number, that feature could arrive at any update and work for every Tesla ever made.

 

[Kyle]

 

[jrt_ms1995]

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[GURPS]

Bosch Warns Electric Vehicle Industry over Reliance on Battery Cells​

Heyn, who’s also a board member of the auto parts giant, told the Monday edition of the Stuttgarter Zeitung: “We’re currently seeing the consequences of the gas shortage for Germany and Europe because we prepared too few alternatives. In the automotive industry, we should use this occasion to ask ourselves what we can do if there should ever be too few battery cells.”

He said in that case, “everyone would certainly like to see an alternative to battery power. But this will only exist if we have prepared it in good time.” Heyn said that alternatives that should be considered include fuel cells using hydrogen and oxygen to power electric motors. He further added that the infrastructure being developed for long-haul trucks is well-suited as a “backbone for supplying passenger cars.”

Batteries have consistently been a major cost for drivers of electric vehicles as replacements and repairs can be extremely expensive.

Breitbart News recently reported on a Canadian Tesla owner who was locked out of his car unless he paid $26,000 for a new battery.
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2022/06/Biden_electric.jpg

 

[Gilligan]

Now THIS is what I'm talkin' about.... Always wanted a real dune buggy...

2024 Meyers Manx 2.0 Electric: The Original Dune Buggy, Remastered

The all-electric dune buggy Volkswagen refused to build is finally here thanks to the designer of the New Beetle.

www.motortrend.com

Friggin awesome! I owned two of the original Manx's back in the 70s. This pic of one of them from 1978, taken out in the sand quarry playground that once existed in south Florida. I really like the idea of the new electric version.

 

[Kyle]

Friggin awesome! I owned two of the original Manx's back in the 70s. This pic of one of them from 1978, taken out in the sand quarry playground that once existed in south Florida. I really like the idea of the new electric version.

I dont' think you'd be taking that one in the water like the pic.

 

[glhs837]

I dont' think you'd be taking that one in the water like the pic.

Why not? Tesla's do fine at fording. Hard to find straight video, but the clips in this one tell the tale.

 

[GURPS]

“Complete And Total Disaster”: YouTuber Drives Electric Ford Truck, Recounts Disastrous Results [VIDEO]​

Youtuber Tyler Hoover says in the video, seen below, that “f a truck towing 3,500 pounds can’t even go 100 miles — that is ridiculously stupid. He then highlights the basic argument against EVs. “This truck can’t do normal truck things. You would be stopping every hour to recharge, which would take about 45 minutes a pop, and that is absolutely not practical.”

He says of the exercise: “My plan was to make two trips up today,” he said. “About 32 miles each way, so that’s about 64 times two: 128 miles round trip.”

“I had this thing charged to just over 200 miles when I started my day, so ample margin for error when it comes to range and towing and also considering the fact that the trailer was going up empty two times,” Hoover later added.

 

[Kyle]

Cue the ElectraJesus Disciples to appear and defend!

 

[DaSDGuy]

Cue the ElectraJesus Disciples to appear and defend!

Not a fair test!! He was going uphill, both ways!!

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

I’ll stick with my duramax diesel.

 

[glhs837]

Cue the ElectraJesus Disciples to appear and defend!

Not me. I wont defend the Lightning. Ford made a clear choice to make an ICE conversion EV truck for one reason and one reason only. They decided that any truck, no matter how crippled by being a conversion carrying a ton of extra mass in the form of framerails and other crap, was better than no truck. They wanted "first mover advantage", and now they reap the results of this choice.

Also note they are not selling many of them. And the reason for that is simply that they are most likely not making money on them, even the high end trim. But for sure on the low end trim. They have a clean sheet EV F-150 coming in I think 2025, which reflects how long it takes to make one that's efficient.

That's one reason the Cybertruck is the weird looking thing it is. A unibody cant be as strong as body on frame for towing. But a frame costs you weight that you don't need unless you are towing. And over 85% of truck owners tow once or less a year. Lotta wasted energy hauling that frame around. The CTs exoskeleton and cast subframes and structural battery pack gives you back that strength without the extra mass.

Ford and GM think they can do it with huge uni-bodies and gargantuan battery packs........ I think they are wrong.