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jrt_ms1995

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Looks like Califoolya is gonna have to find alternatives for their plug ins.

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Or ban those awful EVs and go with

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itsbob

I bowl overhand

Electric shock: Spike in U.K. energy prices push cost of running EVs above gas-powered cars



Charging electric vehicles in Britain soon will be more expensive than filling up gasoline-powered cars thanks to soaring electricity costs — an economic switcheroo that could be a harbinger of shrinking financial benefits for Americans who go green.

British energy regulators told electricity consumers to expect to pay 80% more beginning Oct. 1. The national price cap on residential electricity will send the average bill from about $190 per month to an estimated $343 per month, or more than $4,000 per year.


The shocking price hike stems from the nation’s limited reserves and Russia’s cutoff of one of the region’s major sources of electricity generation: natural gas. British energy prices eclipsed those of many other Europeans because the nation lacks domestic energy storage and production of natural gas, nuclear and renewables, making it more reliant on imports.


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They have a breeding program ramping up now, they figure by 2026 they will have populated the country with enough Unicorns that they will harvest the Unicorn Farts to power their grid..
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

The 17 states that follow California's emission standards and might now BAN gas cars - as extreme weather sees electric car owners stopped from charging vehicles in the Golden State

  • This week, the California Air Resources Board voted to band the sale of gasoline cars in the state by 2035
  • Now, the 17 other states that follow the Golden State's emission standards on vehicles are faced with making similar decisions
  • It's thought that only five, Massachusetts, New York, Washington, Oregon and Vermont will likely follow California
  • However states that follow California's older emission standard rules such as Pennsylvania and Colorado have said that they will not be adopting the ban
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
No Surprise Maryland and New Jersey are on that list.

Yet another reason to leave the state at retirement.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
I just got and tested an additional 400 watts of solar panels, specifically intended for recharging my EV. There is a strong rumor that because the Aptera already has solar panels built-in, they might provide a jack to plug in your own panels, up to 1500 watts. That would be outstanding. But if they don't, I can still convert to either 120 or 240VAC and charge from that, either directly in the sun during the day, or with a battery bank overnight.

A total of 670 watts, assume 75% of that is a reality (sun angle, electrical losses, etc...), is a little over 500 watts, 5 hours of charge per day (more in summer, less in winter) is 2.5 kilowatt-hours of power average available during the day to funnel into the EV or charge batteries.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
MG has a couple of offerings, not expensive. From his (long, 30 min) video, it seems there are more options for EVs in Europe than there are in the US.

 

TPD

the poor dad
Wife and I just got back from a 10 day road trip covering 5 states and over 1700 miles. We sorta kinda looked at parts of the trip as if we had an EV and how that would have worked out for us. Well it would have worked out like CRAP and added a lot of headache and sitting time waiting to charge up. 2 of the 4 places we stayed at had no charging stations. None of the places we stopped to eat had charging stations. We don't want to be stuck planning a vacation around charging our mode of transportation. Vacation is supposed to be sorta stress free, not so much if you have an EV you gotta worry about charging every 300 miles and stopping at major chain restaurants to eat garbage and plug in. Our current car goes more than 400 miles on a charge of gas and allows us to stop at 'mom & pop' restaurants to savor the local flavors.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Wife and I just got back from a 10 day road trip covering 5 states and over 1700 miles. We sorta kinda looked at parts of the trip as if we had an EV and how that would have worked out for us. Well it would have worked out like CRAP and added a lot of headache and sitting time waiting to charge up. 2 of the 4 places we stayed at had no charging stations. None of the places we stopped to eat had charging stations. We don't want to be stuck planning a vacation around charging our mode of transportation. Vacation is supposed to be sorta stress free, not so much if you have an EV you gotta worry about charging every 300 miles and stopping at major chain restaurants to eat garbage and plug in. Our current car goes more than 400 miles on a charge of gas and allows us to stop at 'mom & pop' restaurants to savor the local flavors.

So how did you look at at? Tesla charging or other? Of course, even in a Tesla, that trips gonna add charge time.
 

DaSDGuy

Well-Known Member
So how did you look at at? Tesla charging or other? Of course, even in a Tesla, that trips gonna add charge time.
Evidently he looked at it like a person on vacation looking to charge their EV. Maybe he should have looked at it as someone who is so pro-EV that he should ignore the simple fact that the infrastructure for EV is as real as unicorn farts.
 
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TPD

the poor dad
So how did you look at at? Tesla charging or other? Of course, even in a Tesla, that trips gonna add charge time.
I looked at it as being convenient- was there a charger where I stopped to eat, sleep, pee, or play? And most of the time there wasn’t. Vacations can be hard enough to plan - don’t need to add anymore complications or headaches.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
I looked at it as being convenient- was there a charger where I stopped to eat, sleep, pee, or play? And most of the time there wasn’t. Vacations can be hard enough to plan - don’t need to add anymore complications or headaches.
:yay:

It's far from ready for prime-time and they're shoving it down Americans throats.
 
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SamSpade

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:yay:

It's far from ready for prime-time and they're shoving it down Americans throats.
And that's what's bothering me the most about it - Americans are being slowly squeezed into it, compelled to buy a product they clearly don't want.

Because if they DID, they'd be flying off the shelves.

The whole underlying premise of capitalism is, build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door. You make something better, more reliable, cheaper - and people will abandon what they have.

We were compelled to buy LEDs over incandescents, because they were outlawed. But had they proven a better product from the get go, no law would have been needed.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
We were compelled to buy LEDs over incandescents, because they were outlawed. But had they proven a better product from the get go, no law would have been needed.
But before LEDs, we were forced into the gawd awful, fire causing, eco-unfriendly CFLs. LEDs weren't available in quanity at a decent cost, so they pushed CFLs just to get everyone off incandescents.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Someone I know recently went on business travel. Upon return and retrieving their personal EV from parking, didn't have enough juice to get home and had to charge. Tried to submit the $6.00 charging bill. Nope, that falls under your mileage.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
Unless people find a way to make, store and sell electricity to one another - electricity is one thing the government can ultimately control how much anyone gets.

One of the great things about gas, is, it can sit in your tank until you need it. Unlike a battery, which will discharge whether you use it or not.
 
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