Sneakers
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Most do. Usually covered in your homeowner's policy.
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It won't matter much I guess. After you lose the contents of your refrigerator and/or freezer multiple times they will just cancel your policy.
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
People are starting to prepare for the brownouts/blackouts by investing in alternative energy, specifically solar. But as more people buy into solar, the higher the demand for the rare elements needed to produce them, the higher the cost in both manufacturing and resources, and are actually exacerbating problems, getting further away from being 'green'. It's a no-win situation if you want to continue to maintain your current lifestyle. Those 'odd' people who live in shacks off-grid are best suited to weather this storm.
Don’t Charge that Electric Vehicle: California Braces for Energy Shortage Thru Labor Day
Don't Charge that Electric Vehicle: California Braces for Energy Shortage Thru Labor Day
California will have "Flex Alerts" through Labor Day, and residents will be asked not to charge electric vehicles at certain times.
Sneakers
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Wanna bet they start cutting back power to the charge stations? Or even turn them off?
Don’t Charge that Electric Vehicle: California Braces for Energy Shortage Thru Labor Day
Don't Charge that Electric Vehicle: California Braces for Energy Shortage Thru Labor Day
California will have "Flex Alerts" through Labor Day, and residents will be asked not to charge electric vehicles at certain times.www.breitbart.com
I'm sure it'll happen.
Two years ago, Newsom urged Californians to “sober up” about the limitations of solar and wind power, during another late summer energy shortage that resulted in rolling blackouts across much of the state. The state has not expanded its energy sources since then, though it has improved plans for energy shortages and expanded battery capacity.
Dealership Quotes $30,000 to Replace Battery in a $10,000 Chevrolet Volt
The quote in question comes from Roger Dean Chevrolet in Florida, and regards a battery replacement for a 2012 Chevrolet Bolt. The cost of the new battery itself comes in at $26,853.99. Further charges include $33.98 for coolant and $1,200 in labor. Add tax and the total bill comes to $30,842.15. It's a steep price, particularly when a brand-new Chevrolet Bolt with a far larger battery can be had for a base price of $26,595.
The enormous figure raised questions when the quote was posted online, with commenters on Reddit and beyond raising questions as to its authenticity. However, fact-checking website Snopes was able to confirm with the dealership that the quote was indeed legitimate.
glhs837
Power with Control
Yep, the EV tech (GM sourced from someone else) of ten years ago wasnt awesome. No shocker there. And it was expensive, and still is. One thing that's happened in the intervening decade is that the cost of making these packs has dropped. So this headline not really relevant to todays EVs, and less so to future ones.
jrt_ms1995
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Corrected
glhs837
Power with Control
For example, as the experts at powerthefuture.com point out, here are 10 facts about EVs the Left doesn’t want Americans to know:
1. EVs are powered by fossil fuels. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), fossil fuel-based power plants — coal, oil, or natural gas — create about 60% of the nation’s electrical grid, while nuclear power accounts for nearly 20%.
2. The batteries of EVs rely on cobalt. An estimated 70% of the global supply of cobalt emanates from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, a country with deplorable working conditions, especially for children.
3. A study released earlier this year by an environmental group showed that nearly one-third of San Francisco’s electric charging stations were non-functioning. The population of San Francisco represents roughly two percent of California.
4. Supporters of the California law admit there will be a 40% increase in demand for electricity, adding further strain to the grid and requiring increased costs for power and infrastructure.
5. According to one researcher, the strain of adding an EV is similar to adding “1 or 2 air conditioners” to your home, except an EV requires power year-round.
6. Today, 20 million American families, or one in six, have fallen behind on their electric bills, the highest amount ever.
7. Utility companies will need to add $5,800 in upgrades for every new EV for the next eight years in order to compensate for the demand for power. All customers will shoulder this cost.
8. The average price for an electric vehicle is currently $66,000, up more than 13% in just the last year, costing an average of $18,000 more than the average combustible engine. Meanwhile, the median household income is $67,521. For African American families, the average is $45,870, and for Hispanic households, $55,321.
9. A 2022 study found that the majority of EV charging occurs at home, leaving those who live in multi-family dwellings (apartments) at a real disadvantage for charging.
10. The same study also noted that many drivers charge their EVs overnight when solar power is less available on the grid.
Nobody is hiding these things. The industry is rapidly moving towards batteries that require either far less or no cobalt. And yep, multi family housing needs to accommodate charging. And the grid needs to grow. And add storage to buffer generation against demand.
All of this isnt a condemnation of EVs, its really just advocating to a market based change. Which a lot of EV proponents already advocate.
And most know where the electricity comes from, but the key there is that no matter what you generate it with, its more efficient than burning gas since the plants generating it operate more efficiently than any mobile engine ever can. .
Please refer to post #169
glhs837
Power with Control
Hard to argue with such a cogent response.
Electric shock: Spike in U.K. energy prices push cost of running EVs above gas-powered cars
Charging electric vehicles in Britain soon will be more expensive than filling up gasoline-powered cars thanks to soaring electricity costs — an economic switcheroo that could be a harbinger of shrinking financial benefits for Americans who go green.
British energy regulators told electricity consumers to expect to pay 80% more beginning Oct. 1. The national price cap on residential electricity will send the average bill from about $190 per month to an estimated $343 per month, or more than $4,000 per year.
The shocking price hike stems from the nation’s limited reserves and Russia’s cutoff of one of the region’s major sources of electricity generation: natural gas. British energy prices eclipsed those of many other Europeans because the nation lacks domestic energy storage and production of natural gas, nuclear and renewables, making it more reliant on imports.
