You FINALLY caught on? Well done Polly!Car and Driver, yep, part of the Big EV Lie
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glhs837
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I like data, it never lies or exaggerates.
Mechanical Engineer Argues Elon Musk Should Apologize to Porsche
Should Tesla CEO Elon Musk listen to what this engineer-turned-YouTuber has to say? Here's what's going on and why the executive may want to do itwww.autoevolution.com
So this was the official response. Me, I dont dont care enough about this stuff to worry about it. Even the weak one is considerably faster than both of my SRTs were which will be enough for me. What I really need is the power to be where I need to be in traffic.
No, not really. Seems any media that disagrees with you is lying while those that do are not.
Why can't you just admit the negatives are there ? Just because you want them to succeed does not stop them from piling up. You better wake up bro!
PeoplesElbow
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I don't care about the actual results either, but why should any of the other statements be believed when something with no need to be spun? It's sort of like Hillary's lies for absolutely no reason. Chevy's toolbox video trying to make Fords use of aluminum look bad etc.
It’s the machine Messiah.
glhs837
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I've never not admitted that negatives are there. I just see them as the normal ups and downs of any business while you see every one as the death knell. You see them piling up, I see some stay, and other fade, and new ones appear. Just like it does for any business.
PeoplesElbow
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LoL, clueless people are the best.
PeoplesElbow
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Price drops again
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Tesla cuts Model 3 Highland and Model Y prices again to battle BYD's relentless EV sales rise
BYD became the world's largest electric car maker this past quarter, surpassing the previous top dog Tesla by a significant margin. Tesla is now introducing another round of Model 3 and Model Y price cuts to offset the increased EV competition.
If you want a used Tesla cheap, go to Chicago. The Tesla charging stations don't work there because of the cold. Bring a tow truck.
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Apparently the batteries won't take a charge if they are cold. Good plan.
Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here'
Many Chicago-area Tesla owners were visibly frustrated on Monday after their electric vehicles failed to charge amid freezing temperatures.
Apparently the batteries won't take a charge if they are cold. Good plan.
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The Biggest Evidence for the Folly of the EV Push May Be Happening Right Now
Recurrent analyzed the cold-weather behavior of 18 different EVs and found that these batteries performed at about 70% capacity in temperatures below freezing. Obviously, each vehicle is different, but an average of 70% means that some vehicles did much worse. The worst offenders were the Volkswagen 1D4, which lost 46% of its capacity, and the Chevy Bolt, which saw a 42% drop.
What's the main culprit? It's drivers and passengers trying to keep warm.
"The major reason that EVs lose range in the winter is due to cabin heating to keep the driver and passengers warm. Unlike in a conventional car, electric cars have to use energy to produce cabin heat," Garberson points out. "In the internal combustion engine (ICE) that powers traditional cars, the 'waste heat' generated by the engine can be pumped directly into the car to warm people up. On the other hand, an EV has a much more efficient motor which does not generate nearly as much heat. The heaters that keep the car warm generally draw energy from the high voltage battery, reducing how much capacity is left for driving."
We're in the middle of a tough winter. The polar vortex has caused temperatures across much of North America to plunge into bitter cold, which means that EV drivers are struggling with decreased battery life. This example from Canada may be extreme, but it's an example of the plight of EV drivers in a harsh winter:
Shoulda burned it to keep warm!
glhs837
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Or maybe not tried a 1,200 miles journey in -40F temps. Which is where Alberta in the middle of the trip was 2 days ago.
Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here'
Many Chicago-area Tesla owners were visibly frustrated on Monday after their electric vehicles failed to charge amid freezing temperatures.
Maybe EV Manufacturers should install kerosene forced air heaters to blow on the batteries all winter.
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When I was in Chicago last August, the friggin traffic was was the worst I have ever seen. I went out to dinner several times with different people who were my cousins friends! In every conversation EVs came up, the one thing that they all agreed on was how were the snow removal crews going to deal with snowbound EVs left on the roads with dead batteries? Gotta move them before they would be able to plow, seems no one thought there were enough roll backs to get the job done. Seems like a legitimate concern to me. Thoughts?
I'm sure they can be plowed out of the way.
PeoplesElbow
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Not true, lithium based batteries simply do not work as good the colder they get, they will not accept or release as much energy when cold and they will also do it slower than when warm.
Tesla and the Toyota Prime hybrids use a heat pump which is much more efficient, however it doesn't make up for the battery characteristics in the winter.
Or maybe just leave the piece of s**t EV home, and get out the ICE truck like they have been doing for about 100 years, Not a negative at all!
