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phreddyp

Well-Known Member
I do more than a modicum, and what I see is overwhelming data that people like and are happy with their EV. I don't try and extrapolate the ownership experience of millions by reading the stories of the few.

Is every person happy? Nope. Will every owner of anything ever made be happy? Of course not. My mind is open and I acknowledge the information you bring, and analyse it to try and see the other side, every story has two.

Just today, I read that people are unhappy with the Supercharging in NYC. But when you look deeper, or even read the whole article, the real issues become clear.

1. NY City and state incentivized taxi and rideshare drivers to buy or rent and operate EVs, ignoring the fact that in cities, most people cannot charge at home.
2. This placed a much larger burned than normal on the few Superchargers, and finding the land to make more is time consuming and cosltly in New York, and the obligatory red tape of course slows that much more.

See, this isn't an EVs suck story, this is a "Govt should keep its filthy paws off of crap it doesn't understand" story.

Like the story you posted a while back, 25% of EV owners dont stay with EVs!!!!!!! I read that as 75% of ev owners were happy enough they would buy another. And the funny thing was that most of that 25% were folks who could not charge at home.

You and I read the same story and see different sides of it. Understanding the why behind the headline matters.
Sounds like you are experiencing a HOT FLASH lol. The main problem is you are in LOVE with EVs and cannot comprehend that the negatives far out weigh the positives. You have bought into a not ready for prime time tech lock stock and barrel! I love it, a fool and his money are soon parted.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Sounds like you are experiencing a HOT FLASH lol. The main problem is you are in LOVE with EVs and cannot comprehend that the negatives far out weigh the positives. You have bought into a not ready for prime time tech lock stock and barrel! I love it, a fool and his money are soon parted.

No, I just weigh things differently than you do. Love? Nope. They like any tech are not perfect. And certainly not for everyone. I'll spend my money when the vehicle I want at the price I want to pay is available.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
No, I just weigh things differently than you do. Love? Nope. They like any tech are not perfect. And certainly not for everyone. I'll spend my money when the vehicle I want at the price I want to pay is available.
Don't hold your breath, gonna be quite a while before one is worth owning !
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Since Norway was mentioned the other day this popped up. 300 km is about 185 miles.

In honor of our Electrified bretheren, I will henceforth set my gasoline trucks heater to "induction furnace" while I drive 700 miles on a full tank.

Prays for All.

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Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
I was stranded in an EV at midnight. Progressives don't want you to know about my nightmare


Biden and his fellow Democrats just can't resist forcing EVs on us. But America not even close to ready for the clean energy utopia they're promising us


It only takes a weekend trip to a wedding two hours outside of a big city to realize this country is nowhere near ready for the Democrats' clean energy revolution. It’s too bad they’re unwilling to accept reality.

Democrats are pushing us toward an America powered by wind, solar, and other green alternatives to gas, oil, and coal. It makes us more reliant on electricity. But as I detail in my book "What’s Killing America: Inside the Radical Left’s Tragic Destruction of Our Cities", the eco-reality favored by the Left is lightyears ahead of our reality.

I don’t own a car, so I rented one from Hertz. I was dubious of the EV they gave me, but I had no choice: they rented out the gas-powered car that I reserved and I was out of options.

As I drove to the wedding venue, I was nearly glued to the dashboard, watching a dwindling battery percentage. Just when I thought everything would be OK, I encountered hills. EV batteries do not like hills.

When I arrived at the venue, my dashboard said the battery would only last 43 more miles. I needed double that to make it back to Seattle. From the vows to the post-ceremony dinner, I was panicked, downloading apps that mapped out the nearest EV power stations, hoping I could make this work.

Fun story...



I can already hear the Patron Saint of Tesla chiming in... "she should have rented a Tesla" or "she should have read the manual"
 

glhs837

Power with Control
I was stranded in an EV at midnight. Progressives don't want you to know about my nightmare


Biden and his fellow Democrats just can't resist forcing EVs on us. But America not even close to ready for the clean energy utopia they're promising us


It only takes a weekend trip to a wedding two hours outside of a big city to realize this country is nowhere near ready for the Democrats' clean energy revolution. It’s too bad they’re unwilling to accept reality.

Democrats are pushing us toward an America powered by wind, solar, and other green alternatives to gas, oil, and coal. It makes us more reliant on electricity. But as I detail in my book "What’s Killing America: Inside the Radical Left’s Tragic Destruction of Our Cities", the eco-reality favored by the Left is lightyears ahead of our reality.

I don’t own a car, so I rented one from Hertz. I was dubious of the EV they gave me, but I had no choice: they rented out the gas-powered car that I reserved and I was out of options.

As I drove to the wedding venue, I was nearly glued to the dashboard, watching a dwindling battery percentage. Just when I thought everything would be OK, I encountered hills. EV batteries do not like hills.

When I arrived at the venue, my dashboard said the battery would only last 43 more miles. I needed double that to make it back to Seattle. From the vows to the post-ceremony dinner, I was panicked, downloading apps that mapped out the nearest EV power stations, hoping I could make this work.

Fun story...



I can already hear the Patron Saint of Tesla chiming in... "she should have rented a Tesla" or "she should have read the manual"


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So no, cant chime in except to say that I've said about one hundred times that Hertz has blown it big time with their EV rollout. Forcing customers who didnt specifically rent one into one is wrong and should not be allowed.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
The Hertz failure is just a long chain of everyone running their mouths but not making a real commitment and half-assing it.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
The Hertz failure is just a long chain of everyone running their mouths but not making a real commitment and half-assing it.
Hertz made a mistake, admitted to it, and now is working to correct it. Really not too hard to understand. Businesses exist to make money, when you have a segment under performing you have a choice to make. Find a way to make it profitable, if you can't remove it from the equation. If you chose the later, nothing is better than selling it to some other moron who hasn't caught on yet.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Hertz made a mistake, admitted to it, and now is working to correct it. Really not too hard to understand. Businesses exist to make money, when you have a segment under performing you have a choice to make. Find a way to make it profitable, if you can't remove it from the equation. If you chose the later, nothing is better than selling it to some other moron who hasn't caught on yet.

No, the errors they made were in execution. Buying too many EVs. Deploying way too many EVs as rideshare units at all, and also placing too many in places like Chicago and New York, not setting up enough charging capacity at rental locations so cars could be rented with sufficient charge, not ensuring staff were available to brief customers, forcing customers who did not rent one into them. All of these problems were self inflicted wounds

Again, the problem wasnt buying and deploying EVs, it was the execution.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
No, the errors they made were in execution. Buying too many EVs. Deploying way too many EVs as rideshare units at all, and also placing too many in places like Chicago and New York, not setting up enough charging capacity at rental locations so cars could be rented with sufficient charge, not ensuring staff were available to brief customers, forcing customers who did not rent one into them. All of these problems were self inflicted wounds

Again, the problem wasnt buying and deploying EVs, it was the execution.
And exactly how many profitable businesses have YOU owned or operated?
 

glhs837

Power with Control
And exactly how many profitable businesses have YOU owned or operated?
Not sure that matters here. I've worked in acquisition for a long time, and I know damn well that you need to make sure your customers requirements are being met. And that deploying a helluva a lot of a new thing all at once is a Bad Idea. You deploy a limited amount while you nail down supportability and logistics, then you scale. Things that Hertz should have been able to predict.

1. Rideshare drivers are unlikely to have a single family home to charge at, especially in the city.
2. Rental car customers wanting an EV are the ones you put in EVs. Those who didnt ask for it should NOT be put into them.

These things don't require advanced business smarts.
 
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