Electric Car News

[PeoplesElbow]

Hertz made a mistake, admitted to it, and now is working to correct it. Really not too hard to understand. Businesses exist to make money, when you have a segment under performing you have a choice to make. Find a way to make it profitable, if you can't remove it from the equation. If you chose the later, nothing is better than selling it to some other moron who hasn't caught on yet.

It was a half assed virtue signal where they thought they could get by without putting in any infrastructure themselves.

 

[phreddyp]

Not sure that matters here. I've worked in acquisition for a long time, and I know damn well that you need to make sure your customers requirements are being met. And that deploying a helluva a lot of a new thing all at once is a Bad Idea. You deploy a limited amount while you nail down supportability and logistics, then you scale. Things that Hertz should have been able to predict.

1. Rideshare drivers are unlikely to have a single family home to charge at, especially in the city.
2. Rental car customers wanting an EV are the ones you put in EVs. Those who didnt ask for it should NOT be put into them.

These things don't require advanced business smarts.

In other words you have no clue what a successful business owner or operator does and that my friend speaks volumes.

 

[phreddyp]

It was a half assed virtue signal where they thought they could get by without putting in any infrastructure themselves.

News flash, the ONLY people who don't F**K up are the ones who NEVER do ANYTHING. Maybe they got ahead of themselves, sounds like they caught it in time and are making corrections.

 

[Kyle]

EVs deliver the promised range.

So long as you don't ever turn on the Heat.

... Or AC.

... Or Lights

... Or Radio.

... Or any other electrical device.

 

[glhs837]

In other words you have no clue what a successful business owner or operator does and that my friend speaks volumes.

So, the fact that you would rather say I don't know what I'm talking about than point out where I am wrong speaks volumes

 

[phreddyp]

So, the fact that you would rather say I don't know what I'm talking about than point out where I am wrong speaks volumes

Why should I teach you when I put in all of the hard work on my own to understand and made it work, education is not free my friend. Besides you don't listen anyway, it would be the equivalent of beating a dead horse.

 

[glhs837]

Why should I teach you when I put in all of the hard work on my own to understand and made it work, education is not free my friend. Besides you don't listen anyway, it would be the equivalent of beating a dead horse.

Sounds more like you have no argument. Do rideshare divers clog up urban superchargers? Yep. Has Hertz said that most of the damage issues were caused by rideshare drivers? Yep. Have customers complained about being placed in EVs when they didnt rent them? Yep.

Are all of these facts a direct result of choices that Hertz made? Yep.

 

[Kyle]

Hertz should have bought the Mercedes AA.

 

[phreddyp]

Sounds more like you have no argument. Do rideshare divers clog up urban superchargers? Yep. Has Hertz said that most of the damage issues were caused by rideshare drivers? Yep. Have customers complained about being placed in EVs when they didnt rent them? Yep.

Are all of these facts a direct result of choices that Hertz made? Yep.

No the issue is that Hertz bought piece of crap EVs, then realized that folks don't want them, then they found out that repairs to them far outweighed ANY benefit that they were supposed to add to the company's bottom line. Now they are basically giving them away to raise cash in order to buy more ICE powered vehicles.

Basically, this is the same thing that pharmaceutical companies do all the time, pour money into what they consider a promising compound then finding out that it doesn't work or that the toxicity or side effects made the compound unmarketable then stop the funding on the compounds research. Then move on to another promising compound or compounds .

It isn't rocket science but for some vague reason it is beyond your and peopleselbow's comprehension. But folks that own businesses or know how to run them do things like this all of the time.

 

[glhs837]

No the issue is that Hertz bought piece of crap EVs, then realized that folks don't want them, then they found out that repairs to them far outweighed ANY benefit that they were supposed add to the company's bottom line. Now they are basically giving them away to raise cash in order to buy more ICE powered vehicles.

Basically, this is the same thing that pharmaceutical companies do all the time, pour money into what they consider a promising compound then finding out that it doesn't work or that the toxicity or side effects made the compound unmarketable then stop the funding on the compounds research.

It isn't rocket science but for some vague reason it is beyond your and peopleselbow's comprehension.

Funny, then that they are not selling them all. but only a third, 20,000 cars out of 60,000 EVS it bought. It almost as if they simply bought to many. If they added nothing to the bottom line, then they would sell them all.

 

[phreddyp]

Funny, then that they are not selling them all. but only a third, 20,000 cars out of 60,000 EVS it bought. It almost as if they simply bought to many. If they added nothing to the bottom line, then they would sell them all.

You never dump everything on the market at one time, what f**king planet are you from?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

No the issue is that Hertz bought piece of crap EVs, then realized that folks don't want them, then they found out that repairs to them far outweighed ANY benefit that they were supposed to add to the company's bottom line. Now they are basically giving them away to raise cash in order to buy more ICE powered vehicles.

Basically, this is the same thing that pharmaceutical companies do all the time, pour money into what they consider a promising compound then finding out that it doesn't work or that the toxicity or side effects made the compound unmarketable then stop the funding on the compounds research. Then move on to another promising compound or compounds .

It isn't rocket science but for some vague reason it is beyond your and peopleselbow's comprehension. But folks that own businesses or know how to run them do things like this all of the time.

Did you read what they were renting to the Uber drivers for with unlimited miles? I don't know how they didn't lose money on those from the start. They charged less than it cost me with a pre-negotiated government rate for a shitbox compact to rent. I don't even understand why they would do that.

Then they rent them to customers without even being charged, that's bush league crap there. I'd bitch if I rented a car that didn't have gas in it. It just stands to reason that if you were going to rent an EV you should have a way to provide a charge for it before giving it to the customer.

 

[glhs837]

You never dump everything on the market at one time, what f**king planet are you from?

True, but they could also not be selling them all. Do you have proof either way?

 

[phreddyp]

True, but they could also not be selling them all. Do you have proof either way?

I read the same article that you were supposed to have.

 

[phreddyp]

Did you read what they were renting to the Uber drivers for with unlimited miles? I don't know how they didn't lose money on those from the start. They charged less than it cost me with a pre-negotiated government rate for a shitbox compact to rent. I don't even understand why they would do that.

Then they rent them to customers without even being charged, that's bush league crap there. I'd bitch if I rented a car that didn't have gas in it. It just stands to reason that if you were going to rent an EV you should have a way to provide a charge for it before giving it to the customer.

Did you not understand that they made a poor decision, I would bet they made more than one.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Did you not understand that they made a poor decision, I would bet they made more than one.

Do you not understand I'm telling you why what they did was a bad decision? I suppose your business acumen of "durr junk" is unmatched.

 

[phreddyp]

Do you not understand I'm telling you why what they did was a bad decision? I suppose your business acumen of "durr junk" is unmatched.

I understand completely, but usually it's not just one decision that goes sour.
Sure you stated a couple, but the real mistake was getting involved with something that is not readily accepted nor ready for prime time, everything else is an add on. Did I type it slow enough for you?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I understand completely, but usually it's not just one decision that goes sour.
Sure you stated a couple, but the real mistake was getting involved with something that is not readily accepted nor ready for prime time, everything else is an add on. Did I type it slow enough for you?

You can make plenty of money on something that isn't mature yet. Defense contractors bilk earn billions by selling, maintaining, leasing etc unready products to the government. In the news now Boeing has made billions off the 737max, the list goes on and on. Hell Hertz makes money renting some of the shittiest cars made, some so shitty that they only sell as fleet vehicles.

I mostly agree with you that EVs aren't ready to be thrust upon the public, except your reasoning is about as well thought out as that of a 3 year old having a temper tantrum that just happened to want the proper thing by chance such as his diaper emptied.

 

[phreddyp]

You can make plenty of money on something that isn't mature yet. Defense contractors bilk earn billions by selling, maintaining, leasing etc unready products to the government. In the news now Boeing has made billions off the 737max, the list goes on and on. Hell Hertz makes money renting some of the shittiest cars made, some so shitty that they only sell as fleet vehicles.

I mostly agree with you that EVs aren't ready to be thrust upon the public, except your reasoning is about as well thought out as that of a 3 year old having a temper tantrum that just happened to want the proper thing by chance such as his diaper emptied.

Sure you can make money on shitty products and not ready for prime time items. But using the government and defense as examples are laughable. Boeing has screwed up, but the problem is not, not ready for prime time tech, it was putting the wrong people in charge of product development and quality control. That my friend was done way before any problems surfaced with the products.

If you don't agree with my methods on assessments of EVs that is fine also. But it still comes down to the same issues. Bad decisions on a faulty product. However my assessment of what happened at Hertz is spot on and you f**king know it although you are not man enough to admit it!

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Sure you can make money on shitty products and not ready for prime time items. But using the government and defense as examples are laughable. Boeing has screwed up, but the problem is not, not ready for prime time tech, it was putting the wrong people in charge of product development and quality control. That my friend was done way before any problems surfaced with the products.

If you don't agree with my methods on assessments of EVs that is fine also. But it still comes down to the same issues. Bad decisions on a faulty product. However my assessment of what happened at Hertz is spot on and you f**king know it although you are not man enough to admit it!

Not at all, I just think you are a dumbass