I agree, but please don’t diss on my Samsung high definition toaster.
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PeoplesElbow
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OooOOooO does it have an LCD screen so you can see the toast live and monitor it on your phone?
It’s an older model. Requires an HDMI cable.
PeoplesElbow
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Junk!
Yep, its called low hanging fruit.
glhs837
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Its not just the charging experience. The software and price have to be competitive also.
PeoplesElbow
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Not sure about price, I know many people that far overextend themselves on cars they can't afford. Same with software, many don't know much about the software until after they own the vehicle and discover its oddities.
You got that right, I've seen quite a few of my friends over extend on cars and trucks and a few more upside down on loans and still do it again and again.
glhs837
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Always pays to rent something similar for a few days at least
PeoplesElbow
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The car rental experience down here sucks. The ******* that use to own the bowling alley would have you towed.
glhs837
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Surely does. I travel enough that it hasn't been an issue for me, but if you are restricted to what they offer here. I usually get Avis, so the last time I had to rent Hertz (my flight landed late at Dulles and Avis was closed. this was peak Cvoid) when I went to turn it in, there was just a drop box.
Avis does just okay. I think mostly due to staffing. Not just here, every place I go which last year was Seattle, Jax, Reno, Dallas and Indy, the staff was scrambling.
PeoplesElbow
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Thought this was a pretty good summary, if I worked somewhere that offered free charging I'd be in it, but definitely would just be my commuting car.
www.businessinsider.com
We drove a Tesla Model 3 in Detroit and Silicon Valley. The experiences were wildly different.
We set out to learn about regional divides for EVs by driving a Tesla Model 3 in San Francisco and Detroit
PeoplesElbow
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Panasonic delaying another battery factory.
electrek.co
Panasonic cools on idea for third US plant for Tesla batteries
Panasonic, makers of batteries for Tesla in the US, is delaying its plan to build a third battery plant in North America, according to Reuters.
electrek.co
Did you read the one this morning where the Brunette woman Ford dealership OWNER stated she didn't want any more EVs on her lot because they were not selling, but HYBRIDS were welcome because they were flying off her lot?Panasonic delaying another battery factory.
Panasonic cools on idea for third US plant for Tesla batteries
Panasonic, makers of batteries for Tesla in the US, is delaying its plan to build a third battery plant in North America, according to Reuters.
glhs837
Power with Control
Thought this was a pretty good summary, if I worked somewhere that offered free charging I'd be in it, but definitely would just be my commuting car.
We drove a Tesla Model 3 in Detroit and Silicon Valley. The experiences were wildly different.
We set out to learn about regional divides for EVs by driving a Tesla Model 3 in San Francisco and Detroit
Its funny, because most folks charge at home, and unless you are pulling unusual mileage every day, you start with 100, even if you lose half, which isnt common, you should be fine to get your daily driving done.
Yep. If your products cost more and don't perform as well, they won't sell. Why would you buy a Mach-E when a Model Y cost less and does more?
Why would you waste your money on ANY of them is the real question here.
PeoplesElbow
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This goes back people buy the experience. People want the same experience they are use to and most hybrids you wouldn't know the difference between them and a pure ICE vehicle if you didn't hear the engine going on/off. The things that are different are/should be better than ICE only such as mileage and lack of shift points.
For those that want to commute as electric only the plug in hybrids are available, but your range is only limited by the gas in the tank.
glhs837
Power with Control
If you like the product and it gives you the service you expect out of it then is your money wasted?
Apparently that is not the case, if you do a modicum of reading with a open mind, something you consistently lack.
glhs837
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I do more than a modicum, and what I see is overwhelming data that people like and are happy with their EV. I don't try and extrapolate the ownership experience of millions by reading the stories of the few.
Is every person happy? Nope. Will every owner of anything ever made be happy? Of course not. My mind is open and I acknowledge the information you bring, and analyse it to try and see the other side, every story has two.
Just today, I read that people are unhappy with the Supercharging in NYC. But when you look deeper, or even read the whole article, the real issues become clear.
1. NY City and state incentivized taxi and rideshare drivers to buy or rent and operate EVs, ignoring the fact that in cities, most people cannot charge at home.
2. This placed a much larger burned than normal on the few Superchargers, and finding the land to make more is time consuming and cosltly in New York, and the obligatory red tape of course slows that much more.
See, this isn't an EVs suck story, this is a "Govt should keep its filthy paws off of crap it doesn't understand" story.
Like the story you posted a while back, 25% of EV owners dont stay with EVs!!!!!!! I read that as 75% of ev owners were happy enough they would buy another. And the funny thing was that most of that 25% were folks who could not charge at home.
You and I read the same story and see different sides of it. Understanding the why behind the headline matters.