Electric Car News

[PeoplesElbow]

I personally think they should speed it up. I support Governor Moore on principle, but we don’t have 11 more years.

Moore: Maryland must sell only electric vehicles by 2035

At a press conference Monday afternoon, Gov. Wes Moore announced that Maryland will be one of a few states to adopt Advanced Clean Cars II which requires all passenger cars and light trucks sold in Maryland to be electric vehicles by 2035.

www.wypr.org

Why?

I have serious doubts that they are more environmentally friendly.

 

[phreddyp]

I understand the physics perfectly, I am asking you why does it matter with EVs when it apparently didn't matter with those other vehicles?

The increased weight of the mainstream EV's isn't that much more, model Y is lighter than a Ford Explorer, which is a very popular vehicle.

If you cannot figure out on your own then you don't understand physics, despite saying that you do. Sorry

 

[limblips]

I personally think they should speed it up. I support Governor Moore on principle, but we don’t have 11 more years.

Moore: Maryland must sell only electric vehicles by 2035

At a press conference Monday afternoon, Gov. Wes Moore announced that Maryland will be one of a few states to adopt Advanced Clean Cars II which requires all passenger cars and light trucks sold in Maryland to be electric vehicles by 2035.

www.wypr.org

Okay Greta how much time do we have until mankind ceases to exist? I need to know when to stop paying taxes.

 

[GURPS]

The World is going to end in 11 years


Yet ARCTIC ICE is At Record Levels

 

[glhs837]

If you cannot figure out on your own then you don't understand physics, despite saying that you do. Sorry

And if you cant understand you are comparing EV cars that are heavier than comparable cars while in reality you should be comparing them to the heavier SUVs and trucks that make up the majority of new vehicle sales, then you are not being honest about your complaint. The guardrail doesnt really care if a 4,500lb Explorer or a 4.300lb Model Y hits it.

Trucks And SUVs Are Now Over 80 Percent Of New Car Sales In The U.S.

That figures to stay the same for January, JD Power says, a new record.

jalopnik.com

Also, you go to great pains to point out that EV sales are a small [percentage of total vehicle sales, so why worry about it?

 

[phreddyp]

And if you cant understand you are comparing EV cars that are heavier than comparable cars while in reality you should be comparing them to the heavier SUVs and trucks that make up the majority of new vehicle sales, then you are not being honest about your complaint. The guardrail doesnt really care if a 4,500lb Explorer or a 4.300lb Model Y hits it.

Trucks And SUVs Are Now Over 80 Percent Of New Car Sales In The U.S.

That figures to stay the same for January, JD Power says, a new record.

jalopnik.com

Also, you go to great pains to point out that EV sales are a small [percentage of total vehicle sales, so why worry about it?

I didn't write the article, the author was saying that that guardrails were rated at not more than 5000 lbs and EVs weigh in considerably more, therefore the guardrails were inadequate for the job they were designed for.

Try reading the article slowly this time. Before you make an ass of yourself. Then perhaps you can explain it better to PE.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I didn't write the article, the author was saying that that guardrails were rated at not more than 5000 lbs and EVs weigh in considerably more, therefore the guardrails were inadequate for the job they were designed for.

Try reading the article slowly this time. Before you make an ass of yourself. Then perhaps you can explain it better to PE.

Which Ones?
Tesla Model S 4700 lbs
Tesla Model 3 4000 lbs
Tesla Model Y 4500 lbs
Chevy Bolt EV 3600 lbs
Mustang Mach E 4800 lbs

Perhaps you don't understand how numbers work, in all cases these are less than 5000 lbs, not more, let alone considerably more.

I may be wrong but I believe these are the most popular EVs in the US by far.

Perhaps this could help you

 

[phreddyp]

Which Ones?
Tesla Model S 4700 lbs
Tesla Model 3 4000 lbs
Tesla Model Y 4500 lbs
Chevy Bolt EV 3600 lbs
Mustang Mach E 4800 lbs

Perhaps you don't understand how numbers work, in all cases these are less than 5000 lbs, not more, let alone considerably more.

I may be wrong but I believe these are the most popular EVs in the US by far.

Perhaps this could help you

Still didn't read the article did you? Your soulmate glhs837 will have to explain it to you when he is done reading it, maybe he will finish reading by noon tomorrow. Stay tuned.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Still didn't read the article did you?

I did, you understand the American Energy Alliance may just have an agenda? The same point has been made over and over about vehicles as the curb weight has increased by over 1000lbs in the last 40 years. I use to have a 1979 Buick LeSabre, which was a boat of a car, its curb weight was 3700 lbs., a Toyota Avalon, which is the closest sized sedan I can think of today but significantly smaller and less robust weighs the same amount. The 1981 Ford Escort was only 2200 lbs, a modern Toyota Corolla is 3200 lbs.

They also make the comparison of a Mustang Mach E, which is an SUV to its gasoline equal, which is a Mustang....

Lincoln MKT 5050 lbs
F-250 at the high end is 7400 lbs

Its fine to say guard rails need to be updated due to increased vehicle weights of today, but to claim its because of EVs is horse crap. If they are fine for Ford Explorers and Toyota Sequoias they are fine for EVs.

 

[phreddyp]

I did, you understand the American Energy Alliance may just have an agenda? The same point has been made over and over about vehicles as the curb weight has increased by over 1000lbs in the last 40 years. I use to have a 1979 Buick LeSabre, which was a boat of a car, its curb weight was 3700 lbs., a Toyota Avalon, which is the closest sized sedan I can think of today but significantly smaller and less robust weighs the same amount. The 1981 Ford Escort was only 2200 lbs, a modern Toyota Corolla is 3200 lbs.

They also make the comparison of a Mustang Mach E, which is an SUV to its gasoline equal, which is a Mustang....

Lincoln MKT 5050 lbs
F-250 at the high end is 7400 lbs

Its fine to say guard rails need to be updated due to increased vehicle weights of today, but to claim its because of EVs is horse crap. If they are fine for Ford Explorers and Toyota Sequoias they are fine for EVs.

So you didn't care for me trying to explain what the author was trying to say.
If Sequoias and Explorers are part of the problem then so be it. I was trying to explain what the author was saying, unfortunately that part was totally ignored by you and your soul mate

You both should cut back on your estrogen supplements they are making your attention spans weak not to mention girly.

As far as the authors agenda goes I neither know nor care. But if it bothers you two,so be it also.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

So you didn't care for me trying to explain what the author was trying to say.
If Sequoias and Explorers are part of the problem then so be it. I was trying to explain what the author was saying, unfortunately that part was totally ignored by you and your soul mate

You both should cut back on your estrogen supplements they are making your attention spans weak not to mention girly.

As far as the authors agenda goes I neither know nor care. But if it bothers you two,so be it also.

And I'm saying why is it suddenly a problem now for a very small percentage of vehicles when a bigger percentage of vehicles were this weight over the last 20 years.

Ready to admit you were wrong about the considerably greater than 5000 lb comment? I was also informing you that you were either misinformed or just full of crap?

 

[glhs837]

So you didn't care for me trying to explain what the author was trying to say.
If Sequoias and Explorers are part of the problem then so be it. I was trying to explain what the author was saying, unfortunately that part was totally ignored by you and your soul mate

You both should cut back on your estrogen supplements they are making your attention spans weak not to mention girly.

As far as the authors agenda goes I neither know nor care. But if it bothers you two,so be it also.

See, we know what he's saying. He's blaming EVs for the need to beef up guardrails. And he's wrong. Just becuase a thing is written doesnt make it correct. As for your caring, of course you do. Anything that casts EVs in a negative light makes you happy. Applying logic and reason to the debate appears to be beyond you.

The heavier vehicles on the roads are the commonly seen SUVs and trucks, which you miss no chance to point out make up more sales than EVs. This is like saying the illegal Canadians crossing the border are the real problem with immigration. If you could make a valid point, perhaps you wouldn't need to attack peoples masculinity.

 

[phreddyp]

See, we know what he's saying. He's blaming EVs for the need to beef up guardrails. And he's wrong. Just becuase a thing is written doesnt make it correct. As for your caring, of course you do. Anything that casts EVs in a negative light makes you happy. Applying logic and reason to the debate appears to be beyond you.

The heavier vehicles on the roads are the commonly seen SUVs and trucks, which you miss no chance to point out make up more sales than EVs. This is like saying the illegal Canadians crossing the border are the real problem with immigration. If you could make a valid point, perhaps you wouldn't need to attack peoples masculinity.

Your masculinity has been questioned from the start I have seen nothing to alter my opinion of it.

You have been the biggest cheerleader for EVs from the start, even now when the industry has realized they are not the answer and are pushing hybrids and plug in hybrids. The pie for EVs is getting smaller and smaller, the next two quarters will tell the tale. Elon has bent you over and screwed you everyway by Sunday!

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Some more understanding of greater than and less than for phreddy

 

[phreddyp]

And I'm saying why is it suddenly a problem now for a very small percentage of vehicles when a bigger percentage of vehicles were this weight over the last 20 years.

Ready to admit you were wrong about the considerably greater than 5000 lb comment? I was also informing you that you were either misinformed or just full of crap?

You still don't get it do you. Everything I talked about was directly from the article. I made no personal feelings about the article even with the physics applied. A reading comprehension course would do you both a world of good. But I'm quite sure this is over your pay grade also.

You are stating an opinion I am talking about what was said in the article. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Trucks are mostly higher than guardrails they generally hit the top of them, EVs have a lower center of gravity and will hit them lower where they are designed to be struck, but apparently not with a vehicle over 5000 lbs. So yeah there is a problem.

That looks like your opinion there.

 

[glhs837]

Your masculinity has been questioned from the start I have seen nothing to alter my opinion of it.

You have been the biggest cheerleader for EVs from the start, even now when the industry has realized they are not the answer and are pushing hybrids and plug in hybrids. The pie for EVs is getting smaller and smaller, the next two quarters will tell the tale. Elon has bent you over and screwed you everyway by Sunday!

I'm no sure how you make a connection between the two. I think at two quarters your horizon is a bit short.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Not sure why they tested the guardrail as a head on collision barrier, they are intended for glancing blows to direct a vehicle back onto the road, that is why they are parallel to the road.

If this was say a military security study for stopping vehicles it would make sense.

https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_dept/countermeasures/reduce_crash_severity/docs/guardrail101_v3.pdf

The face is the length of the guardrail extending from the end terminal alongside the road. Its function is always to redirect the vehicle back onto the roadway.

 

[phreddyp]

I'm no sure how you make a connection between the two. I think at two quarters your horizon is a bit short.

Two quarters should start to tell the tale, Tesla has already stated sales are stalling, add in pretty large employee compensation raises, lowering prices again and with inflation added in, profit should stall or drop, neither is good for a company with a PE close to 50. Bright spot may be increased use of their charging stations but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[phreddyp]

That looks like your opinion there.

Just going by what is in the article, in case you missed it or still haven't read it, which is my guess.