Electric Car News

[Gilligan]

I'll buy an electric car when they come with an LCARS interface, and not before.

I had to google that one...

 

[Kyle]

Do you think they'll ever be able to generate enough power so I can get the mini-rail gun option?

Nice option.

It'll work better than Garmin Traffic service.

 

[Kinnakeet]

Gas stations deliver gas?

Couple close to me do..go ahead buy that 50,000$ fire pit waiting to happen and then buy the 30,000$ battrey pack when yours die's and remember all the child labor digging that battery materials to make you happy those poor little kids getting 25 cents a month and a bag of rice all so you can save the planet and go to Burger King

 

[Kinnakeet]

Yeah, you call a couple of gas stations, let me know how that works out But in any case, if there are enough people stupid enough to run out of charge, there will be service to bring you some juice. Oh, look, people are already on that. Really, adding a Tesla Powerpack onto a few tow trucks would be child's play.

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At what cost

 

[RoseRed]

Couple close to me do..go ahead buy that 50,000$ fire pit waiting to happen and then buy the 30,000$ battrey pack when yours die's and remember all the child labor digging that battery materials to make you happy those poor little kids getting 25 cents a month and a bag of rice all so you can save the planet and go to Burger King

WTF are you talking about?

 

[GURPS]

I'll buy an electric car when they come with an LCARS interface, and not before.

Hmm LCARS is ok ....

LCARS Interface - Official app in the Microsoft Store

Welcome to 24th Century Computing! LCARS Interface is an application that features a beautiful design inspired by the futuristic computers that were first seen in Star Trek: The Next Generation. This product suite is designed to be used for entertainment purposes, role playing, and fan film...

apps.microsoft.com

 

[glhs837]

At what cost

1 You invent a problem that doesn't really exist for anyone over say a 70 IQ.
2. I show you (with real factual references, not FB memes) its not really a problem, and even so, people are working solutions already.
3. Then you get on about cost.

Lets face it, you have no real knowledge other than FB memes about these topics and are trying to bluster your way through these "discussions".

Now about "fire pit". The data to date shows that corrected for numbers on the raod, ICE vehicles burn a helluva a lot more. And battery replacement is really rare. And wont cost virtually anyone who buys a modern mass produced EV anywhere near 30K.

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

I for one don

Welcome to the party.........

1. If you buy the right one, it plans your route so this doesnt happen on longer trips. And during regular driving, you should be watching your usage like any gas tank. When's the last time you ran out of gas?
a. Nope, sure dont own one. Do have one on order that I might receive in late 23 or early 24.
b. Go right ahead, I like choice and am fine if you want that. I'll always have a couple around myself.
2. Well, if you think your opinion rises to facts. Better depends on what you want, of course. For you, maybe ICE is better, but you are not everyone.
3. I agree the Lightning F-150 is a crappy execution. Ford screwed up by choosing the path of converting the ICE f-150 into an EV. That conversion path means its less efficient than a clean sheet design would be.
4. My post related to the Tesla Cybertruck. Which folks mock for looking crazy, but those looks derive from a desire to both do truck stuff and be efficient. Exoskeleton, huge castings, structural battery pack. These design features let you use a smaller battery and get still get greater range.
5. Battery degradation is a thing, true. But not as much as people think. And we dont have data on newer designs, which improve over time so EVs made today should suffer less than older ones. A lot of people try and equate Nissan Leaf data to modern EVs, and they dont really cross.

t want to plan my trip around charging stations.

1 You invent a problem that doesn't really exist for anyone over say a 70 IQ.
2. I show you (with real factual references, not FB memes) its not really a problem, and even so, people are working solutions already.
3. Then you get on about cost.

Lets face it, you have no real knowledge other than FB memes about these topics and are trying to bluster your way through these "discussions".

Now about "fire pit". The data to date shows that corrected for numbers on the raod, ICE vehicles burn a helluva a lot more. And battery replacement is really rare. And wont cost virtually anyone who buys a modern mass produced EV anywhere near 30K.

the number of ICE vehicles on the road out numbers EV greatly. Just due to that the metrics will be skewed on ICE burning a helluva lot more.

Not enough modern mass produced EV’s out there to really get some good numbers on battery replacement yet. Time will tell on this one.

 

[glhs837]

I for one don't want to plan my trip around charging stations.

the number of ICE vehicles on the road out numbers EV greatly. Just due to that the metrics will be skewed on ICE burning a helluva lot more.

Not enough modern mass produced EV’s out there to really get some good numbers on battery replacement yet. Time will tell on this one.

And you shouldn't if you don't want to. Unless you are under the age of say 15, nobody alive today will see the end of all ICE cars. But if you buy a Tesla, your routing shouldnt really vary from where you might go with a gas car anyway, Give me three trips you routinely take.

For me, I go to Philly, wife and I are planning a trip to Devens MA. Were we taking an EV, I'll bet our routing changes in virtually no way whatsoever over the route we might take in an ICE car. Went to Atlanta with my son a month ago. I just mapped that trip for a long range Model 3.

Go Anywhere | Tesla

Stay charged anywhere you go, with access to our global charging networks. Explore a route and we’ll find the best locations to keep you charged along the way and upon arrival.

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Its exactly the same routing he and I took in his 135i. Looks like charging might add an hour to the trip. No charging stop longer than 25, with two 20 minute ones and one 15 minute. Google maps shows 10 and a half hours, but of course it doesnt account for food or gas breaks. While those are baked into the charging stops.

 

[glhs837]

the number of ICE vehicles on the road out numbers EV greatly. Just due to that the metrics will be skewed on ICE burning a helluva lot more.

Not enough modern mass produced EV’s out there to really get some good numbers on battery replacement yet. Time will tell on this one.

Thats why I said corrected. When you account for the numbers of both on the road, ICE cars still burn more frequently.

EV Fires: Less Common But More Problematic?

IDTechEx Research Article: Fires in electric vehicles (EVs) certainly gain a lot of media attention in comparison to their internal combustion engine (ICE) counterparts. But a crucial question for the future of mobility is whether EVs are actually any more likely to catch fire than an ICE...

www.idtechex.com

A recent study conducted by AutoInsuranceEZ using data from the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) showed that electric cars in the US caught fire at a rate of 25.1 per 100,000 sales compared to 1,530 for ICE vehicles and 3,475 for hybrids.

And we are getting good data from fleet operators like Tesloop. Numbers look good so far, although I have concerns about the longevity of pouch and prismatic cells. I think the cylindrical hard cells will be the best for really long term.

 

[Kinnakeet]

You probably should. Your posts take on the persona of a 4 year old. Besides having to re-read your posts multiple times to understand them, no one takes you seriously.

WTF are you talking about?

1 You invent a problem that doesn't really exist for anyone over say a 70 IQ.
2. I show you (with real factual references, not FB memes) its not really a problem, and even so, people are working solutions already.
3. Then you get on about cost.

Lets face it, you have no real knowledge other than FB memes about these topics and are trying to bluster your way through these "discussions".

Now about "fire pit". The data to date shows that corrected for numbers on the raod, ICE vehicles burn a helluva a lot more. And battery replacement is really rare. And wont cost virtually anyone who buys a modern mass produced EV anywhere near 30K.

I invented something
How long does it take to charge a Tesla at a charging station?

Tesla Charging Times By Model and Charger Type
	SuperCharger	NEMA 14-50 240v Plug
Model 3 272 miles of range	25-30 mins	8 to 12 hours
Model Y 326 miles of range	25 mins	12 hours
Model S405 miles of range	30 mins	16 to 17 hours

Not bad if you want to wait while on a trip, as for me I would much rather gas n go.
I assume there is a fee to charge while on the road?
As you can tell Im no fan of electric vehicles and never will be.
70 IQ I do not think so
And 1 should not judge me by what I post,I guess my humor is different than others.

 

[glhs837]

I invented something
How long does it take to charge a Tesla at a charging station?

Tesla Charging Times By Model and Charger Type
	SuperCharger	NEMA 14-50 240v Plug
Model 3 272 miles of range	25-30 mins	8 to 12 hours
Model Y 326 miles of range	25 mins	12 hours
Model S405 miles of range	30 mins	16 to 17 hours

Not bad if you want to wait while on a trip, as for me I would much rather gas n go.
I assume there is a fee to charge while on the road?
As you can tell Im no fan of electric vehicles and never will be.
70 IQ I do not think so
And 1 should not judge me by what I post,I guess my humor is different than others.

I wasnt talking about your IQ. Although your reading comprehension could be a bit higher, IMO. Nobody over an IQ of 70 should ever run out of charge was what I was saying. And given IQ distribution in the population, it just doesn't happen often enough to spend much time worrying about. The vehicle is constantly telling you what your state of charge is. And the best ones tell you where to go to get some.

About charging. Yep, gas is faster. And your preference is just that. A preference. Other folks dont mind spending a little time charging in return for lower cost both for fueling and maintenance. About those long times charging at home. Not super relevant, although true. Very very few people drive the range to zero before plugging in at home. The average American drives 30 miles a day. Even if you triple that, your home recharge time is much lower than that chart shows.

I don't care if you are a fan. My point has never been to force anyone to be a fan. Just for those that are not to be willing to learn the true facts, not memes. You can remain not a fan forever, and drive a gas car forever, I know I'll always have one or two around. But when you post BS about them, I'll correct it.

 

[Kyle]

I had to google that one...

:ihadanerdmoment:

 

[Sneakers]

I had been wondering about this...

 

[TPD]

I had to google that one...

Me too

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

Here I was at a hotel off I-10 in Florida. When I pulled up at 6pm there was and EV plugged in right next where I parked by an extension cord. When I left at 9am the next morning they were just sitting in the car with the cord still attached. Guess it didn’t fully charge over night.

 

[Sneakers]

Here I was at a hotel off I-10 in Florida. When I pulled up at 6pm there was and EV plugged in right next where I parked by an extension cord. When I left at 9am the next morning they were just sitting in the car with the cord still attached. Guess it didn’t fully charge over night.

120V Level 1 charging does take a long time.

 

[glhs837]

Here I was at a hotel off I-10 in Florida. When I pulled up at 6pm there was and EV plugged in right next where I parked by an extension cord. When I left at 9am the next morning they were just sitting in the car with the cord still attached. Guess it didn’t fully charge over night.

Sounds like piss poor planning resulting in piss poor performance. Or maybe they didnt need to be anywhere that morning.

 

[phreddyp]

Sounds like piss poor planning resulting in piss poor performance. Or maybe they didnt need to be anywhere that morning.

Nice try, the EV is a piece of crap, don't try to blame it on the driver!

 

[glhs837]

Nice try, the EV is a piece of crap, don't try to blame it on the driver!

Could be the vehicle, do you know what kind it was? A Leaf, for instance, is a pretty poor example unless your only use is under say 30 miles a day and never take a road trip..

But without more data, we dont know, and cant know. Could be idiot driver, could be an EV poorly suited for that task.