Electric Car News

[glhs837]

Videos of Teslas malfunctioning in below-freezing temperatures go viral

Multiple stories of Tesla vehicles experiencing major malfunctions in freezing temperatures during the holidays have gone viral. In a video uploaded to Twitter on Dec. 23, Canadian meteorologist Rachel Modestino demonstrates her inability to open her vehicle's driver-side door as the latch...

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Tesla owner goes viral after his car would not charge in the cold

A Tesla owner’s video went viral after he couldn’t get his Model S to charge at a Supercharger station in...

electrek.co

People Are Sharing Videos Of Their Teslas Malfunctioning In The Extreme Cold–And Hoo Boy

Oh dear.

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Brother, Sister Rent Tesla But As Soon As They Hit Cold Weather, It Took 17 Hours To Go 450 Miles

A brother and sister rented a Tesla in Florida and it worked fine until they hit cold weather. Then they had to stop the car six times in one day to…

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That was just the first four links on a search.


I'll take "Not Ready For Primetime for $200, Alex"

Yep, and three of those are the same two people, the Canadian lady and the guy with the broken car. See, this is the regurgitation effect, where one guys broken car leaves this impression that it happened a lot. And if you want me to think that only Teslas have issues with frozen doors or windows, your going to be wrong. Virtually everyone whos had cars and is older than say 30 has had a frozen door.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of these cars, and these squeaky wheels get some much noise simply through regurgitation that the problem looks larger than it is. That brother and sister, they should have know better. Looks like they spent a lot of time trying to reach 100%. Let the planning software do its thing and you will go faster. Another case of regurgitation amplifying what's really a small problem.

 

[Kyle]

I'm just gonna be sitting back enjoying the show.

 

[Sneakers]

I'm just gonna be sitting back enjoying the show.

I'm halfway between. I'm looking forward to trying out an EV, to experience it first hand and not thru the friend of a friend of a friend. I want to feel the acceleration of 0-60 in under 4 seconds. Play with the new tech. Have a vehicle that looks like a spaceship. I'm looking forward to being an early adopter.

But I also realize it can't do everything. I will still have the ICE truck for loads and towing. Until I'm confident with an EV on long distance, the ICE will do that too. Learning curve. Maybe it won't work out, maybe it will. Like you said.... time will tell.

 

[Kyle]

I'm halfway between. I'm looking forward to trying out an EV, to experience it first hand and not thru the friend of a friend of a friend. I want to feel the acceleration of 0-60 in under 4 seconds. Play with the new tech. Have a vehicle that looks like a spaceship. I'm looking forward to being an early adopter.

But I also realize it can't do everything. I will still have the ICE truck for loads and towing. Until I'm confident with an EV on long distance, the ICE will do that too. Learning curve. Maybe it won't work out, maybe it will. Like you said.... time will tell.

And thats how it should be treated.

Not subsidized, disciples and enforcers created, obligatory legislation passed, competitors punished.

 

[glhs837]

And thats how it should be treated.

Not subsidized, disciples and enforcers created, obligatory legislation passed, competitors punished.

Agreed.

 

[Sneakers]

Have to admit, I've always had a hankering for electric propulsion. Before I could drive, I was modifying generators to replace the engine on an outboard motor. Designed a multi-motor drive system that only used as many motors as was necessary to power, and the others became generators, but the tech wasn't available at the consumer level yet to make it work. Precursor to regenerative braking.

Been waiting for this for a long time...

 

[kwillia]

And thats how it should be treated.

Not subsidized, disciples and enforcers created, obligatory legislation passed, competitors punished.

The average American cannot swing paying off their ICE, asking for another loan for an EV, and while still paying off needing to get loans for high priced maintenance/repairs.

 

[glhs837]

The average American cannot swing paying off their ICE, asking for another loan for an EV, and while still paying off needing to get loans for high priced maintenance/repairs.

All true, although you can expect repairs to an EV to cost less, since there are far fewer moving parts. And there is far less scheduled maint to think about for that same reason. Plugs, engine air filter, transmission service, all that goes away. Brakes, you most likely will never use them up since you usually just let regen braking slow you down, but you should apply them once in a while to keep them lubricated. Doesn't change that initial purchase price, of course. So like solar or even metal roofing, it only makes sense if you were buying a new vehicle anyway.

 

[Kinnakeet]

Yet those things have happened to people. Fuel pump failures, an endless list of mechanical issues that have never happened to me personally on a road trip. Again, trying to equate ones persons experience to global experience doesn't really work. One guys car failed to charge in the cold. Others take longer. Part of the deal. There are upsides that obviously offset them for the great majority of owners. Very few people live a life of constant road trips. Waking up every day to a vehicle that is ready to go and never visiting a gas station, never having to schedule oil changes or do them yourself, not having to gets brakes done every 40-60k. Its the overall experience that makes people happy, and they are.

I knew you would come back defending those battery operated junk just face it you are losing the battle ICE is superior to EV...lol

 

[Kinnakeet]

Yep, a couple million on the road, yet we see no mass movement to ask for that. You, who doesn't own one and refuses to look at data showing otherwise, insists they have been had, yet they are happy.

Looking up data that someone else wrote is like believing ABC or CNN the only real way is to evaluate the EV yourself

 

[Kinnakeet]

I'm halfway between. I'm looking forward to trying out an EV, to experience it first hand and not thru the friend of a friend of a friend. I want to feel the acceleration of 0-60 in under 4 seconds. Play with the new tech. Have a vehicle that looks like a spaceship. I'm looking forward to being an early adopter.

But I also realize it can't do everything. I will still have the ICE truck for loads and towing. Until I'm confident with an EV on long distance, the ICE will do that too. Learning curve. Maybe it won't work out, maybe it will. Like you said.... time will tell.

More gas station per mile than charging stations

 

[glhs837]

Looking up data that someone else wrote is like believing ABC or CNN the only real way is to evaluate the EV yourself

Tell me you don't understand data without telling me that Good thing other people believed in things they didn't have to find out themselves. Sort what our whole civilization is built on, using information from other sources. You come off like the headman in the village wanting to burn the stranger from across the mountain with his crazy talk of staying in one place and growing food instead of wandering around and finding it.

ICE isnt bad, I love the good ones.

 

[TPD]

Yeah this can happen to a self driving ICE car as well but it didn’t - it happened in a Tesla.

 

[Sneakers]

Yeah this can happen to a self driving ICE car as well but it didn’t - it happened in a Tesla.

Tesla's self driving has been under a lot of scrutiny. Does weird things.

 

[TPD]

 

[GURPS]

Wyoming Republicans take a stand, want to ban electric cars​

The motivation, according to the bill's preamble, is that the oil and gas industry is important to the state, a state with fewer than 600,000 residents. Wyoming is proud of its oil and gas industry, and that gas—here presumably meaning "gasoline" and not the natural gas referred to in the bill's early sentences—powers vehicles that drive on the state's vast stretches of highway.

The bill's authors think Wyoming's interstate network is too desolate for electric vehicles, particularly since there is no existing EV charging infrastructure, they claim.

The authors also decry the fact that EVs require certain critical minerals—not currently supplied by the state of Wyoming—and that these could end up polluting landfills in Wyoming, in obvious ignorance of the enormous recycling potential for EV batteries.

Therefore, in order to protect the incomes of people who earn money extracting hydrocarbons from the ground or moving them around the state, sales of new EVs must be banned in Wyoming by 2035, the bill argues.

The date is no coincidence; 2035 is the year by which California wants to phase out sales of new internal combustion engine-powered vehicles. And that same year is when US President Joe Biden wants at least 50 percent of all new vehicles sold in the US to be EVs.

 

[Kyle]

Yeah this can happen to a self driving ICE car as well but it didn’t - it happened in a Tesla.

Nothing to see here folks! Move along, move along.

These arent the noids you're looking for.

 

[SamSpade]

By the 2030's - and beyond - God willing, I will be retired. And for that, it's my hope I will live in moderate comfort in a community of people near my age where I can reach most locations within a short distance without the aggravation of living in a densely populated city. I have a LOT of elderly in my extended family - largely due to the fact that we're all just getting older - and I've noticed that while distances are a challenge, STAIRS present a needless hazard. And one thing you can't really avoid in a city is - stairs. Or elevators, but the way cities operate in order to be so congested is, they grow UPWARD.

And as I've spent so much time taxiing many relatives about, not everything that is "up" is easily accessed. On more than one occasion, we've had to either stuggle up a stair with a walker in tow, or just simply forego the engagement altogether.

THAT being the case ---

I fully expect that SOME time in the future, a small electric vehicle is in the cards. PROBABLY golf cart size, but - yeah, something small. When I am 80 I sure don't expect to be spry and vigorous enough to be zooming about in a big monster truck. I know my limitations.

BUT I SURE DON'T SEE THE VALUE *now*. And with the insistence of eliminating natural gas stoves - which people have been using without ill effect for over a century - I am horrified at any future where my existence depends on the reliability of an electric grid which has REPEATEDLY BEEN SHOWN to be fragile or unstable.

Aside from the absurdity of having EVERYONE GO ELECTRIC - because with the exception of hydro and nuclear, all of it is created using much maligned fossil fuels - I detest the idea of being dependent on it - and having to pay exorbitant costs for it. And - by the way - hydro and nuclear, as green and clean as they are - are also detested by the left. So much so, that I long abandoned a desired career in nuclear. I could see the future and I was right - we've had very few new nuclear plants since the early 80's.

And I don't know HOW an electric grid susceptible to brown-outs - and that's not just California, but also TEXAS, which has far more electricity producing windmills than any other state - is going to save us, when we can't handle it NOW, and we're transitioning to a future where EVERYTHING IS ELECTRIC.

 

[DaSDGuy]

By the 2030's - and beyond - God willing, I will be retired. And for that, it's my hope I will live in moderate comfort in a community of people near my age where I can reach most locations within a short distance without the aggravation of living in a densely populated city. I have a LOT of elderly in my extended family - largely due to the fact that we're all just getting older - and I've noticed that while distances are a challenge, STAIRS present a needless hazard. And one thing you can't really avoid in a city is - stairs. Or elevators, but the way cities operate in order to be so congested is, they grow UPWARD.

And as I've spent so much time taxiing many relatives about, not everything that is "up" is easily accessed. On more than one occasion, we've had to either stuggle up a stair with a walker in tow, or just simply forego the engagement altogether.

THAT being the case ---

I fully expect that SOME time in the future, a small electric vehicle is in the cards. PROBABLY golf cart size, but - yeah, something small. When I am 80 I sure don't expect to be spry and vigorous enough to be zooming about in a big monster truck. I know my limitations.

BUT I SURE DON'T SEE THE VALUE *now*. And with the insistence of eliminating natural gas stoves - which people have been using without ill effect for over a century - I am horrified at any future where my existence depends on the reliability of an electric grid which has REPEATEDLY BEEN SHOWN to be fragile or unstable.

Aside from the absurdity of having EVERYONE GO ELECTRIC - because with the exception of hydro and nuclear, all of it is created using much maligned fossil fuels - I detest the idea of being dependent on it - and having to pay exorbitant costs for it. And - by the way - hydro and nuclear, as green and clean as they are - are also detested by the left. So much so, that I long abandoned a desired career in nuclear. I could see the future and I was right - we've had very few new nuclear plants since the early 80's.

And I don't know HOW an electric grid susceptible to brown-outs - and that's not just California, but also TEXAS, which has far more electricity producing windmills than any other state - is going to save us, when we can't handle it NOW, and we're transitioning to a future where EVERYTHING IS ELECTRIC.

A golf cart sized EV that meets all IIHS crash standards, has air bags, a roof hardened in case of roll-over, lighting systems to make them visible according to laws, etc., etc., etc. That golf cart EV will now weigh 1.5-2 tons.

 

[Sneakers]

And for that, it's my hope I will live in moderate comfort in a community of people near my age where I can reach most locations within a short distance without the aggravation of living in a densely populated city

You need to retire to one of those golf cart communities in Florida. The ones where STDs are rampant.