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PeoplesElbow

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11 Hidden Costs of Owning an Electric Car

If you think the electric car revolution means cost-free driving, think again. EVs come with a financial sting in their tail.​


All of those are meh, the real increase in cost is the speed they eat tires. Tires are not cheap.

I'm not anti EV, I just dont think the average US consumer will ever accept them, especially women.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Ask Florida what they think about EVs that were flooded in the hurricane.

Where was that huge wave of burning EVs. We had the initial reports, then zippo.

Most people will never admit they made a mistake, I imagine that you will be just another denier shortly!

What mistake and whats to deny? Market share went from 2% to 4% last year. Tesla almost doubled sales. People want them and love them on the whole. See data below. Or you can ask three friends, I'm sure that's just as valid :)



Theres this one, but read deeper. It was only a three point drop, and almost all of it related to inability to find one to buy and price increases and dealerships raping them on markups.

 
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Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
They're perfect for anyone that lives in an urban area, doesn't drive often, has a garage and doesn't plan on venturing onto the open road... Ever.


Personally, they should save $75k and buy a golf cart.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
They're perfect for anyone that lives in an urban area, doesn't drive often, has a garage and doesn't plan on venturing onto the open road... Ever.


Personally, they should save $75k and buy a golf cart.

Yet hundreds of thousands of people don't meet those criteria and still enjoy them.

I agree that it is certainly advantageous to be able to charge at home, but the rest of your points don't matter to 99% of Tesla drivers. Of course, other brands where you need to rely on third party networks, that a different story. But since most EVs on the road are Teslas everywhere except China, I would use that experience as the norm.


Read the comments also. Virtually everyone who has actually travelled with one has enjoyed it. This is where the media takes one story and folks equate to everyone's experience and it becomes what "everyone knows". "My sister and I rented a Tesla and it took us 40 hours to get home!!!" "My Model S refused to charge in the cold".

People have shitty road trips in ICE vehicles all the time also. We just dont hear about them.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
Yet hundreds of thousands of people don't meet those criteria and still enjoy them.

I agree that it is certainly advantageous to be able to charge at home, but the rest of your points don't matter to 99% of Tesla drivers. Of course, other brands where you need to rely on third party networks, that a different story. But since most EVs on the road are Teslas everywhere except China, I would use that experience as the norm.


Read the comments also. Virtually everyone who has actually travelled with one has enjoyed it. This is where the media takes one story and folks equate to everyone's experience and it becomes what "everyone knows". "My sister and I rented a Tesla and it took us 40 hours to get home!!!" "My Model S refused to charge in the cold".

People have shitty road trips in ICE vehicles all the time also. We just dont hear about them.
Nothing will matter to an EV buyer until they realize theye'd been had! Then they will request that the Federal Government reimburse them for their mistake!
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
People have shitty road trips in ICE vehicles all the time also. We just dont hear about them.

From years of driving a truck over the road in the 80s, long distance drives for storm repair work in the 90s and personal trips of up to 1200 miles or so scattered throughout the years...

I have never had a vehicle refuse to fuel up because it was too hot or too cold, never had to spend more than 15 mins refueling unless I wanted to, never had to concern myself if I would make the next gas station due to unexpected range degradation...

Overall, I can only remember one bad road experience due to a double flat on one axel of a trailer.

:sshrug:
 

glhs837

Power with Control
From years of driving a truck over the road in the 80s, long distance drives for storm repair work in the 90s and personal trips of up to 1200 miles or so scattered throughout the years...

I have never had a vehicle refuse to fuel up because it was too hot or too cold, never had to spend more than 15 mins refueling unless I wanted to, never had to concern myself if I would make the next gas station due to unexpected range degradation...

Overall, I can only remember one bad road experience due to a double flat on one axel of a trailer.

:sshrug:

Yet those things have happened to people. Fuel pump failures, an endless list of mechanical issues that have never happened to me personally on a road trip. Again, trying to equate ones persons experience to global experience doesn't really work. One guys car failed to charge in the cold. Others take longer. Part of the deal. There are upsides that obviously offset them for the great majority of owners. Very few people live a life of constant road trips. Waking up every day to a vehicle that is ready to go and never visiting a gas station, never having to schedule oil changes or do them yourself, not having to gets brakes done every 40-60k. Its the overall experience that makes people happy, and they are.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Nothing will matter to an EV buyer until they realize theye'd been had! Then they will request that the Federal Government reimburse them for their mistake!

Yep, a couple million on the road, yet we see no mass movement to ask for that. :) You, who doesn't own one and refuses to look at data showing otherwise, insists they have been had, yet they are happy.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Yet those things have happened to people. Fuel pump failures, an endless list of mechanical issues that have never happened to me personally on a road trip. Again, trying to equate ones persons experience to global experience doesn't really work. One guys car failed to charge in the cold.
You say "One guys car failed to charge" but the electric pumps or whatever they call them were non-functional so ANYONE that tried to use them would have failed to charge.

Not just one.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
I call it poor planning. If you wait until 2am on the coldest night in history to prove you can't charge, well, there ya go. Most sane people are home warm in bed with the EV in the garage. If you're expecting an EV to be a one-for-one replacement of an ICE, you're blowing smoke up your own butt. Each has their strong points, and each has their shortcomings. You buy an EV, great. Learn to live within it's constraints and don't bitch because it doesn't do something like your ICE did. If you don't want an EV, great, don't bitch about the people who do.

If you're convinced EVs will destroy your home and the planet, petition to have them sidelined. If you aren't doing something pro-active to stop them, stand aside because the government is hell-bent on making it happen without your approval.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
You say "One guys car failed to charge" but the electric pumps or whatever they call them were non-functional so ANYONE that tried to use them would have failed to charge.

Not just one.

No, that was one guy who tried different plugs. It was his car, not the plugs. The real issue was that he couldn't reach Tesla service, and that's what needs fixed. He should have been able to get them on the phone immediately. It should not have taken him posting a video of the problem to get is car fixed.


And it looks like it worked as Domenick was eventually contacted by Tesla and was offered a loaner Model 3 while his own Model S was taken to a nearby service center for the problem to be diagnosed.
 

Kyle

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That was just the first four links on a search.


I'll take "Not Ready For Primetime for $200, Alex"
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
Just asking a question here...

Tesla has been around for years. 370,000 sold in 2019, 500,000 in 2020, nearly a million in 2021.

Why is this year the first year that Teslas are suddenly in the news for cold charging issues and nary a word prior to this year?
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Tesla has been around for years. 370,000 sold in 2019, 500,000 in 2020, nearly a million in 2021.

Why is this year the first year that Teslas are suddenly in the news for cold charging issues and nary a word prior to this year?

A guess would be Democrats wet dream push for an "ALL ELECTRIC AMERICA" is putting them under the spotlight far more.

Also don't remember the last couple of winters being that cold. Realistically this one hasn't been that cold either except for that short snap in December.

Time will tell.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
Yep, a couple million on the road, yet we see no mass movement to ask for that. :) You, who doesn't own one and refuses to look at data showing otherwise, insists they have been had, yet they are happy.
I bet that there's a couple million biden voters out there that have buyer's remorse, just because someone doesn't complain doesn't mean they haven't been F**KED!
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
I bet that there's a couple million biden voters out there that have buyer's remorse, just because someone doesn't complain doesn't mean they haven't been F**KED!
People that are scammed by con artists rarely go to police to report it.

When it's the government doing it, what's the point?
 
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