Electric Car News

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Neither are the great majority of Tesla or EV owners. Again, its the 1% rule. Thinking the 1% reflects the everyone is where you go wrong.

Not sure how many times I need to say that EVs are not for everyone, nor do they fit all use cases, nor should adoption be forced.
It IS however, the trend througout the country. How will you be able to drive anything BUT an EV when states are declaring all cars by such and such a date must be "emission-free"? It IS being forced.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
It IS however, the trend througout the country. How will you be able to drive anything BUT an EV when states are declaring all cars by such and such a date must be "emission-free"? It IS being forced.
Every EV disciple is a Collaborator.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
It IS however, the trend througout the country. How will you be able to drive anything BUT an EV when states are declaring all cars by such and such a date must be "emission-free"? It IS being forced.
It's funny how we recognize that politicians are captive to the 1% fringe for other things but not this.
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
That and Elon has probably milked all of the easy money out of the govt. and publics stupid.

He's also gotta be making a killing on these Solar Panel contracts too.

If they're lucky, they'll get paid off just about the time the break even point approaches and just in time for new replacements to start the clock ticking again.
I wouldn't bet against Elon.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
2016 Chevrolet Spark EV available in limited markets. Prior to that they were leased only.

True, but it was only sold for three years in OR and CA with a range of 82 miles, and they sold less than 8k in that time. But it was an EV. But one of the ones that gave EVs a name as a city car only.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
I'd say it's more of a Tesla thing vs EV thing.

The plant in CA was a basket case when it was a joint venture GM/Toyota thing, probably the same California workers in it for Tesla.

I think Teslas future is in licensing their tech and a charging network company and becoming a supplier to others, higher profit, less risk.
With four vehicle factories on three continents and three other factories that make Megapacks, regular batteries, and Superchargers, with more factories in the works, they will be making cars for a long time.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Electric Vehicles: Madness in New Mexico



One of the defining characteristics of central planners is how unwilling they so often are to accept that reality may fail to live up to their dreams, directives, and targets. They tend to reckon that they just have to give the order and, say, a new technology will be invented on schedule or that consumers will change the consumption habits of a lifetime. Mundane considerations such as geography can be safely ignored.

For a couple of days last month, I drove around large and largely empty areas of southern New Mexico (it’s something I like to do). Gas stations were, on some stretches of road, not to be seen for a long, long time—but, knowing that I would easily have enough gas in the tank to last for a good while, “range” was not an anxiety. It would have been a different matter had I been looking for electric vehicle (EV) chargers. They can be found in New Mexico (and Tesla’s network is well-established there), but I wouldn’t like (beyond the interstates and a couple of other major roads) to have to rely on finding a working unit in some of the remoter parts of a state that specializes in remoteness.

NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) (November 16):

After a marathon four-day hearing, the New Mexico Environmental Improvement Board and the Albuquerque Bernalillo County Air Quality Control Board’s adopted three major standards that will provide significant climate, public health, air quality, and economic benefits to New Mexico.
The Board’s adopted the Advanced Clean Cars II (ACC II), Advanced Clean Trucks (ACT), and the Heavy-Duty Low NOx standards—collectively “the Standards.” The Standards will increase the number of zero-emission trucks and cars on New Mexico’s roads, while also reducing toxic pollution coming from the tailpipes of gasoline and diesel vehicles.

Large, sparsely populated (just over 2.1 million people), relatively poor, and, depending on the season and where you are, subject to temperatures high and low enough to affect EV battery life, New Mexico must be one of the states least suited to EVs. But, as is explained on the NRDC site, sales of new conventional cars in the state will be squeezed from 2026, culminating in a ban in 2035:

As adopted, the ACC II policy requires an increasing number of new clean cars to be sold in the state each year, until 82% of new vehicles sold in the state are electric or plug-in hybrid by 2032. Advocates, including NRDC, had been pushing for a complete version of the program, which reaches 100% of new vehicles sold by 2035, as adopted by 8 other states to-date….

In the first half of 2023, EVs accounted for 4.85 percent of new cars sold in New Mexico, up from 4.17 percent for the whole of last year.

That’s an increase, but it’s still not a lot of vehicles, meaning that New Mexico’s consumers clearly do not understand what type of new car is best suited to their needs and pocketbooks. How lucky for them that the state is stepping in to help them out with their decision-making. How sad that this intervention will not make any difference to the climate.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member

Got to love well thought out detailed articles with reliable sources.

Digesting and understanding it will require reading more than three paragraphs sourced from two people interviewed on the net.:)
And everyone knows "Brandon" (Whoeverthe####thatis) is incapable of lying, and doesn't have any bias or ax to grind.

:rolleyes:
 
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