Explosive Noise Heard Late Afternoon Today

mAlice

professional daydreamer
saltydog said:
During flight test unforseen circumstances will occur. If everything happened according to the test plan, we wouldn't need Range controllers. The aircraft could take off and perform their test events and land.

Read your PD, the Range Operations Manual and the EIS. It is YOUR responsiblty to enforce them.

The supersonic corridor is specifically designed to keep the majority of the sonic boom over water. Unfortunately for you, the atmospherics weren't in your favor that day. The majority of the boom hit a 10 mile strech of land. Car alarms, house alarms and frightened citizens all deluged the 911 system. What if there was a real police or fire emergency in the county? It would be difficult to reach 911 with all of the calls from citizens and alarm companies.

If you were waiting for the "Powers that be" to make a call, then its way too late. Who were you waiting to call, ADM Massenburg or the CNO himself? As the Range controller on this flight it was YOUR responsiblity to make sure this didn't happen. You had numerous phone calls after the first boom and you choose to continue anyway. That action was reckless and negligent.

This cavalier attitude that you think you have permission to allow sonic booms over land leads me to question ability to make decisions in other issues, specifically Safety of Flight. There's plenty of issues to raise here but if everyone has the attitude that "it was an approved test plan" or "it was an approved profile"' then this is going to be the tip of the iceberg with safety problems at the range.

Admit that you screwed up and I'll leave it at that.



:moon:

I would think that anyone in a responsible position would know that test plans should not be discussed on a public forum.
 

Bogart

New Member
elaine said:
I would think that anyone in a responsible position would know that test plans should not be discussed on a public forum.
Unless they were a whiney douche on a mssg board.
 

saltydog

New Member
What do you know?

elaine said:
I would think that anyone in a responsible position would know that test plans should not be discussed on a public forum.


Unclassified test plans are a matter of public record. The instruction which gives guidance on how to create a test plan is a matter of public record. The fact that there was a test plan for this event is obvious. Can't do a flight test without one.

Tell me Eliane, exactly what FOUO, or classified information was I divulging. All of SOMD was notified on this test by the sonic boom. Did I perhaps divulge the type of airplane or test event it was trying to accomplish. I don't think so.

I do take offense with the previous statements that sonic booms will happen over land. That is not the intent of the base as I understand it.

If you want the numbers to report me to security, NAS Police, NCIS or command council please contact me directly. I'll happily give my name, position and phone number.

But I will have a LOT to say about the persons responsible for this negligent action.


Just remember it's never the crime that gets you in trouble, but the coverup.
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
morganj614 said:
In my Dan Akroyd voice.."Salty, you ignorant slut"..I think ignorant says it all. There is no cover-up, just your inane ranting here. As I have asked at least 2 times before, why are you acting so defensive and combative here? Test Range, sonic boom, shiat happens. You should think twice about what was said here by you for public record. Please, type in your name, postion and all info and expose yourself just like you called Ken King out..Stop hiding behind skirts.. :duh:
:diva: :notworthy :getdown: :patriot: :thewave:
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
morganj614 said:
My my, you posted as many smilies as Tigg does :killingme :killingme I am going to go enjoy the rest of the day and watch #2 son fly remote control. I should grab my camera..Hehehehe
Good on ya, my friend! See if he can make that thing make a sonic boom ! (J/K)!!!!!!
 

saltydog

New Member
morganj614 said:
In my Dan Akroyd voice.."Salty, you ignorant slut"..I think ignorant says it all. There is no cover-up, just your inane ranting here. As I have asked at least 2 times before, why are you acting so defensive and combative here? Test Range, sonic boom, shiat happens. You should think twice about what was said here by you for public record. Please, type in your name, postion and all info and expose yourself just like you called Ken King out..Stop hiding behind skirts.. :duh:


Inane rantings! Is that like a blithering idiot?

Hmm, morgan614, you go first. Do you perhaps live in calvert county with a first name of Kimberly. I'm probably wrong but it would be fun to debate a few issues.

:howdy:
 

tomchamp

New Member
Probably Wrong??

saltydog said:
Inane rantings! Is that like a blithering idiot?

Hmm, morgan614, you go first. Do you perhaps live in calvert county with a first name of Kimberly. I'm probably wrong but it would be fun to debate a few issues.

:howdy:

You are getting carried away. If morgan614 wanted everyone to know who she is, that should be up to her to expose herself. Not you. There must be a rule on this somewhere. :moon:
 
morganj614 said:
In my Dan Akroyd voice.."Salty, you ignorant slut"..I think ignorant says it all. There is no cover-up, just your inane ranting here. As I have asked at least 2 times before, why are you acting so defensive and combative here? Test Range, sonic boom, shiat happens. You should think twice about what was said here by you for public record. Please, type in your name, postion and all info and expose yourself just like you called Ken King out..Stop hiding behind skirts.. :duh:
:killingme :high5:
:snacks:
 

saltydog

New Member
morganj614 said:
You, my dear, are the one that called out Ken King on this, you are the one that called folks names, you are the one making accusations, Not I. You are the one who seems to have a bone to pick. I know lots of people on here IRL and they know I am not a Kimberly nor live in Calvert. You offered to tell your name and position so we could use it but now you have chickened out. :loser:


Ok Becky, sorry I called you Kimberly...
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
saltydog said:
If you want the numbers to report me to security, NAS Police, NCIS or command council please contact me directly. I'll happily give my name, position and phone number.

Oh, like you're somebody. :rolleyes:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Press Release Number: E200504151 15-Apr-05

Flight test results in sonic booms Thursday
An F/A-18 Hornet aircraft flying a test flight Thursday afternoon generated several sonic booms that could be heard locally. The particular test event, which involved improving the capabilities of the aircraft for pilots in the fleet, required supersonic flight. The aircraft was operating within the Patuxent River restricted airspace and taking precautions to minimize the effect of the sonic booms over populated areas.

NAS Patuxent River will continue to take measures to lessen the impact on the community of testing and training activities.
For more information, call 1-866-819-9028.
 

saltydog

New Member
Whoop there it is!

elaine said:
Oh, like you're somebody. :rolleyes:

Nope, I'm absolutely nobody who wants to keep his job. Ken King and his cavalier attitude is making it extraordinaryly easy to close us down. I'd like to know how he thinks that he has the abilility to jeapordize 5000 jobs by his inactions?
 

Animal

I eat red meat
morganj614 said:
Thanks Ken. My problem with this other person is all the finger pointing and name calling he is doing, even to the point of starting an accusing poll. He seems to be a hostile individual for reasons unknown. Hopefully the reasons for his words and actions will be brought to light. I am curious as to why he feels the way he states. :patriot:
I think the boom caused him to doody himself. :lol:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
morganj614 said:
Thanks Ken. My problem with this other person is all the finger pointing and name calling he is doing, even to the point of starting an accusing poll. He seems to be a hostile individual for reasons unknown. Hopefully the reasons for his words and actions will be brought to light. I am curious as to why he feels the way he states. :patriot:
What is more likely to bring a negative impact? A few sonic booms or a person continually saying things were done wrong when they weren't.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
saltydog said:
I'd like to know how he thinks that he has the abilility to jeapordize 5000 jobs by his inactions?

I'd like to know how he has the abililty to do that, too. :lmao:
 

saltydog

New Member
Rational...

morganj614 said:
Thanks Ken. My problem with this other person is all the finger pointing and name calling he is doing, even to the point of starting an accusing poll. He seems to be a hostile individual for reasons unknown. Hopefully the reasons for his words and actions will be brought to light. I am curious as to why he feels the way he states. :patriot:

I personally called Ken after the second sonic boom. He informed me that he had an approved flight profile and that I should mind my own business. He then stated that the flight was finished. If he told me that he was planning on continuing then I would have had the "Powers that Be" stop him, or the base police arrest him for disorderly conduct. Thats why I'm pissed...
 
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