The only reason we're focused on this incident is because the gun-grabbing media wants us to be.
yep ANOTHER Excuse to try and ban a Tool that sees less deaths than hammers and base ball bats
The only reason we're focused on this incident is because the gun-grabbing media wants us to be.
If someone posted that they want to be a a famous school shooter, I would indeed report it. If someone posted a serious death threat, I would report it. When it's two posters who don't even know each other going back and forth and insinuating they want to beat each other up, I take it for what it is - childish cyberblather.
In fact I have alerted the police when we had a crazy on here that I thought was a serious threat. I have also alerted SMCSO when I saw death threats being made on a local person's FB page.
Not that the cops can do anything about it anyway because they are pretty much prevented from investigating internet threats. The crazy has to actually kill someone first before they can do anything about it. The most the victim can do is get a restraining order, and umpteen women who were killed by their ex person who had an order against him pretty much prove that it isn't a deterrent.
If you see crazy on social media, you can report it until your fingers fall off and nothing will be done. They won't even delete the post in many cases.
So now the mantra is "if you see something, say something," which is all well and good....but then what?
Then nothing, that's what.
We would need to hire millions more agents. Kids say stupid crap at the rate of TranSap-squared.We've had enough school/mass shootings at this point where, if the FBI sees such a post by someone, this should have gone to the top of the list of importance to follow up on. It would have been easy to track down who posted that line. Youtube and other blogger website have, no doubt, sysloggers that track every hit to their websites that show source and destination IP addresses. This post had an exact timestamp on it. You go to the administrators of the blog sites and ask them for all of the IP addresses that hit their server at that specific date and time. I would imagine it would narrow down to about a dozen IP addresses, with such a specific timestamp. From there they can easily get who owns that IP address by doing a ipWhois search. You go to that owner/provider of the IP address and they can narrow down to the street and house of where that IP address came from. Boom! You have your subject.
In this age of digital tracking, this isn't hard stuff. It appears to me the FBI put this report on the bottom of their priority list.
Thank you for making my point. You report serious threats, not random blathering. How is a YouTube video not random blathering?
We would need to hire millions more agents. Kids say stupid crap at the rate of TranSap-squared.
We would need to hire millions more agents. Kids say stupid crap at the rate of TranSap-squared.
Because I think a YouTube video is meaningless. I don’t think we should waste the FBI’s time investigating boisterous people.Neither Trans nor Sappy have ever threatened to murder people, that I am aware of.
Why are you being obtuse about this?
Because I think a YouTube video is meaningless.
Actually we wouldn't. As long as we have citizens like Ben Bennight to report to the FBI a very concerning violent threat, this should go to the top of the FBI's list. From there, it would require a team of about 2 and about a week of work to track down where that message came from.
And Tran and Sap don't say anything on here that is threatening or requires being reported; otherwise you would have done so long ago. This isn't about saying stupid crap; this is about making serious threats that we know has actually happened in the recent past.
If we want to protect our children, we should hire security for schools, not investigate people for what they say.
But, I find this to be like the intelligence saying maybe terrorists will use planes. It seems meaningful after the fact, but if you look at it in real time, it was useless information.
We can’t investigate every time someone who owns a gun mouths off.
Well, I disagree with you. If someone specifically says they are going to commit mass murder, I think we should take them seriously.
Because I think a YouTube video is meaningless. I don’t think we should waste the FBI’s time investigating boisterous people.
If we want to protect our children, we should hire security for schools, not investigate people for what they say.
This wasn't a case of simply mouthing off. Cruz made a comment that concerned a guy enough to contact the FBI. We now see what happens when that "useless" comment is ignored.
How many security officers should each school have?
Because I think a YouTube video is meaningless. I don’t think we should waste the FBI’s time investigating boisterous people.
If we want to protect our children, we should hire security for schools, not investigate people for what they say.
How many security officers should each school have?
This_person;5851129[B said:]I don’t think any. I think we are safe and so are our kids.
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Having 100 people die per day of drug abuse is a reality. How many people are shot at school every day? Let’s work on real problems, not insignificant ones.
So when a distraught spouse screams “I’m going to kill you,” do we treat it as valid?
But, let’s say you’re right. The FBI show up and find out.... what, exactly? He owns guns... and then what?
I have my WTF face on..... :shrug:
Let me be clear:
I agree with your basic point. School shootings get a lot of attention, but they are statistically insignificant when it comes to young people's cause of death. But the media goes crazy and tells us to get upset, so we do. Again, more kids die in car accidents than school shootings. More die from drug overdose. And more die from parental violence. Yet we don't seem to want to do anything about that....because the media hasn't told us to care about it.
However, I do think that when someone goes to the trouble to make a video and upload it to social media, saying they are going to commit a mass murder, we should take that seriously. It's ignorant not to.
Again, I ask you....the FBI shows up on his doorstep because some guy said the video this young man made was scary. Now what? We find out he legally owns guns - that's a given. Now what?