Fake online 'friend' led to girl's suicide

Nicole_in_somd

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Did you read where this girl had a restricted MySpace and the parents allowed her to add this stranger to her friends list because he was "hot"?

St. Charles Journal - News -

By that, I meant the ones on here saying that their kids would never have a myspace account or they monitor all their children’s internet activities.

She said the guy was hot, which to me just means cute, a fox, a hunk whatever these kids use today.

At 13 noticing cute guys is really not that far fetched. Chatting with them in myspace may seem innocent to some people. Even knowing that there is a risk of online predators.

That to me is where that mother should be charged as. She intentionally and fraudulently misrepresented herself and stalked this 13 year old, mislead her and because of her actions the girl is now dead.
 

vraiblonde

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Their actions lead to the girls death. How can they not be accountable for that?

Because being mean to someone isn't against the law.

If someone posted on the internet that you were a fat slut, would you kill yourself? Me either. So you can't say with any certainty that this is the sole reason the girl committed suicide.

I knew a kid in high school who killed himself because his girlfriend broke up with him for another guy. Should she have been held liable for his death?
 

Nicole_in_somd

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Because being mean to someone isn't against the law.

If someone posted on the internet that you were a fat slut, would you kill yourself? Me either. So you can't say with any certainty that this is the sole reason the girl committed suicide.

I knew a kid in high school who killed himself because his girlfriend broke up with him for another guy. Should she have been held liable for his death?

Those are good points. Can't argue that but like I said the mother willfully and intentionaly set out to misrepresent herself and go after the 13 year old.

Who knows what was all going on with this girl. breaking up with some is not the same as intentionaly pretending to be someone else and intentionally set out to open false communications with some for the sole purpose of hurting them.
 

Mikeinsmd

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Because being mean to someone isn't against the law.

If someone posted on the internet that you were a fat slut, would you kill yourself? Me either. So you can't say with any certainty that this is the sole reason the girl committed suicide.

I knew a kid in high school who killed himself because his girlfriend broke up with him for another guy. Should she have been held liable for his death?
Thank you. There's my Vrai with the common sense. :huggy:

I am blown away by the way some people on here think. The neighbors and parents may well be idiots but stupidity isn't a crime. If it were half this board would be locked up. :duh:
 

Nicole_in_somd

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Mothers like that floor me, too. They're all wrapped up in their kids' social lives, and so pathetic they obviously have no life of their own.

I agree. That was just too much. Too much......

All I can see is this girl who may not have been popular in school or have a lot of self confidence, really become so happy that a cute guy was interested in talking to her. That it was so cool that someone would be interested in getting to know her...then to have that pulled out from her...at 13...might as well throw a bucket of pigs blood on the poor girl at prom
 

vraiblonde

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breaking up with some is not the same as intentionaly pretending to be someone else and intentionally set out to open false communications with some for the sole purpose of hurting them.

While not the most mature and kindest of things to do, it's not against any law that I'm aware of. If lying were against the law, half of Congress would be in prison. Using a fake name isn't against the law, or half the guys who pick up women in bars would be in stir. Hurting someone's feelings isn't against the law, either, or we'd all be in trouble.

They can't even be charged with cyberstalking because the girl (and her parents) actively encouraged the communication.
 

vraiblonde

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at 13...might as well throw a bucket of pigs blood on the poor girl at prom

I love that movie! The ultimate revenge of the nerds :yay: (PS, I'm talking about how Carrie slaughters the whole mess of them and torches Vinnie Barbarino :yay:)

Like it or not, cruelty isn't against the law. You're supposed to be mentally healthy enough that you let the nastiness of others roll off your back. Plus, then we'd have to define cruelty, and I can tell you just from moding these forums, some people have very sensitive ideas of what constitutes cruelty.
 
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Kain99

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Like it or not, cruelty isn't against the law. You're supposed to be mentally healthy enough that you let the nastiness of others roll off your back. Plus, then we'd have to define cruelty, and I can tell you just from moding these forums, some people have very sensitive ideas of what constitutes cruelty.

True enough Vrai, but how psychotic is a mother to engage in this behavior?
 

Nicole_in_somd

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While not the most mature and kindest of things to do, it's not against any law that I'm aware of. If lying were against the law, half of Congress would be in prison. Using a fake name isn't against the law, or half the guys who pick up women in bars would be in stir. Hurting someone's feelings isn't against the law, either, or we'd all be in trouble.

They can't even be charged with cyberstalking because the girl (and her parents) actively encouraged the communication.

What about Civil court? Couldn't they argue that if these people did not do what they did that the girl would be alive? fraud is not against the law? Intentionaly trying to do harm or misrepresent yourself to someone is not against the law? Ok but what if those actions caused a loss to harm to someone? Could they then be held accountable?
 

Nicole_in_somd

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I love that movie! The ultimate revenge of the nerds :yay: (PS, I'm talking about how Carrie slaughters the whole mess of them and torches Vinnie Barbarino :yay:)

Like it or not, cruelty isn't against the law. You're supposed to be mentally healthy enough that you let the nastiness of others roll off your back. Plus, then we'd have to define cruelty, and I can tell you just from moding these forums, some people have very sensitive ideas of what constitutes cruelty.

I love it too and that was the first thought that popped in my head. I guess you are right. It does not seem fair but reading everything you wrote, it makes sense to me what you are saying.

It is just sad.
 

Mikeinsmd

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What about Civil court? Couldn't they argue that if these people did not do what they did that the girl would be alive? fraud is not against the law? Intentionaly trying to do harm or misrepresent yourself to someone is not against the law? Ok but what if those actions caused a loss to harm to someone? Could they then be held accountable?
You're serious aren't you? :killingme

It's folks like you who tie up the court system with frivolous, unfounded suits.

I'm gonna scream it this time ok?

STUPIDITY IS NOT ILLEGAL!!!

:lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
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Kain99

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You're serious aren't you? :killingme

It's folks like you who tie up the court system with frivolous, unfounded suits.

I'm gonna scream it this time ok?

STUPIDITY IS NOT ILLEGAL!!!

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

I'm not sure I feel this strongly. I think stupidity on this level should be illegal... but that's just me.
 

Nicole_in_somd

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I'm not sure I feel this strongly. I think stupidity on this level should be illegal... but that's just me.

Besides I was just asking. I never have taken anyone to civil court so I do not know why he would assume people like me. I guess he was just trying to prove his own point?????
 

Mikeinsmd

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Besides I was just asking. I never have taken anyone to civil court so I do not know why he would assume people like me. I guess he was just trying to prove his own point?????
Nic, I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt.

Both Vrai and myself pointed out more than once that no crime was committed but you kept coming back. You weren't getting it so I made it clear. :huggy:
 

Pandora

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If anything comes of this, I hope it is awareness on both ends. For parents to be more attentive and for parents to discourage cyberbullying. I think that there are many parents who simply don't understand the power of the Internet and what goes on. If it wasn't for this place, I may have not know about "myspace" until later or until it hit the news. :shrug: The Internet provides a venue that can be used for the good or for the bad and it isn't a place that is good for people who have hypersensitive personalities. Of course one would have to be aware of what goes on out there in the Cyber World to understand that.
 
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