FDA Approves Methylphenidate Patch for ADHD

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missperky

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tomchamp said:
NO...just drug them!
So if a kid has a headache, vomiting, diarhea, earache, toothache, diabetes or etc, it's okay to drug them but if it's adhd it's not okay? :shrug:
 

crabcake

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BuddyLee said:
If that's the only other option.
That's been my point all night ... responsible parents who have a kid diagnosed with ADHD have tried all the options ... a good ped won't prescribe something otherwise and without having administered/examined several evaluations to include a psychiatrist or psychologist, and input from many people in the kid's life -- both parents, teachers, school, etc. It's not like you can just pop into a doctor's office and say, "hook a mutha up, will ya!". :lol:
 

tomchamp

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missperky said:
So if a kid has a headache, vomiting, diarhea, earache, toothache, diabetes or etc, it's okay to drug them but if it's adhd it's not okay? :shrug:
Define ADHD? Somewhere along the line they added that H. It was originally Attention deficit disorder. I think it's not that they lose their attention, but they just don't get enough of it from their parents! So to me, Yes it attention deficit!
 

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tomchamp said:
Define ADHD? Somewhere along the line they added that H. It was originally Attention deficit disorder. I think it's not that they lose their attention, but they just don't get enough of it from their parents! So to me, Yes it attention deficit!
It's not lacking attention from something; it's lacking the ability to pay attention ... focus ... concentrate ... primarily in the classroom. The "H" is "Hyperactivity"; not all kids demonstrate that component, but common practice nowadays is to call it ADHD and there are different categories depending on characteristics/symptoms demonstrated by the child.

If you want a visual to help you understand, imagine the lightning ball in Spencers ... a glass globe with the inner ball and the electricity shooting from the inner ball to the glass at a slow moderate pace (normal brain activity). Then turn the dial up where it's frazzled (abnormal brain activity). A child with ADHD ... that's how their mind feels and operates. They cannot concentrate on one thing long enough to complete it because their brain is operating at a pace their body cannot keep up with. That's also part of the problem with ADHD kids and behavioral problems ... it's not that they don't want to listen/follow rules; it's that they can't because by the time their mind comprehends the directions, they're moving on to something else.

There are several folks on this board who's kids have been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD ... some medicate; others don't. It's a personal decision based on the child, their needs, symptoms, and how responsive they are to non-medicinal treatment. In my case, mine was not, and medication was the only remaining solution. Am I happy about that? Of course not! But is it necessary? Yes. Without it, she'd be repeating the 2nd grade without a doubt or enrolled in a special education class. It's not that she's a dummy or learning disabled; she simply cannot focus (without her medication) long enough to demonstrate what she knows -- which is quite a bit as some who've met her would probably attest to.
 

crabcake

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tomchamp said:
This thread would have been lucky to get 10 posts if it were not for an azz like me. :lmao:
I wasn't looking for it to maximize in posts; I posted it because I knew there would be other parents out there who'd like to know about it. I'd have locked it from future posts after the first one if I could.

Have you tried to get a kid with a pill phobia to swallow a pill every day, lately? It's not fun, I assure you.
 

BuddyLee

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crabcake said:
It's not lacking attention from something; it's lacking the ability to pay attention ... focus ... concentrate ... primarily in the classroom. The "H" is "Hyperactivity"; not all kids demonstrate that component, but common practice nowadays is to call it ADHD and there are different categories depending on characteristics/symptoms demonstrated by the child.

If you want a visual to help you understand, imagine the lightning ball in Spencers ... a glass globe with the inner ball and the electricity shooting from the inner ball to the glass at a slow moderate pace (normal brain activity). Then turn the dial up where it's frazzled (abnormal brain activity). A child with ADHD ... that's how their mind feels and operates. They cannot concentrate on one thing long enough to complete it because their brain is operating at a pace their body cannot keep up with. That's also part of the problem with ADHD kids and behavioral problems ... it's not that they don't want to listen/follow rules; it's that they can't because by the time their mind comprehends the directions, they're moving on to something else.

There are several folks on this board who's kids have been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD ... some medicate; others don't. It's a personal decision based on the child, their needs, symptoms, and how responsive they are to non-medicinal treatment. In my case, mine was not, and medication was the only remaining solution. Am I happy about that? Of course not! But is it necessary? Yes. Without it, she'd be repeating the 2nd grade without a doubt or enrolled in a special education class. It's not that she's a dummy or learning disabled; she simply cannot focus (without her medication) long enough to demonstrate what she knows -- which is quite a bit as some who've met her would probably attest to.
:yay:

Hey CC, do you know the percentage of children born with ADHD nowadays?

Seems like alot...
 

crabcake

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BuddyLee said:
:yay:

Hey CC, do you know the percentage of children born with ADHD nowadays?

Seems like alot...
I believe the last book I read said something about 7% of school aged children were diagnosed with it. In reality, that's not bad (I think). Think about it -- you're out in public all the time and see antsy, mouthy kids and you're first thought is "that kid needs ritalin". Kids are gonna be kids and test limits, push boundaries, mouth off now and then ... that's not ADHD. ADHD is an issue in the brain and may cause those things to some extent, but it's not controlled by the child. The kid isn't consciously thinking, "I'm on a mission to piss mom and dad off and be the boss of the house". Their brain is simply 5 miles ahead of what you just asked of them 4 seconds ago. :ohwell:
 

BuddyLee

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crabcake said:
I believe the last book I read said something about 7% of school aged children were diagnosed with it. In reality, that's not bad (I think). Think about it -- you're out in public all the time and see antsy, mouthy kids and you're first thought is "that kid needs ritalin". Kids are gonna be kids and test limits, push boundaries, mouth off now and then ... that's not ADHD. ADHD is an issue in the brain and may cause those things to some extent, but it's not controlled by the child. The kid isn't consciously thinking, "I'm on a mission to piss mom and dad off and be the boss of the house". Their brain is simply 5 miles ahead of what you just asked of them 4 seconds ago. :ohwell:
Thanks for all the info.:yay:
 

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Also, to say "born with" is kind of misleading because it's pretty hard to diagnose a baby with it. The signs typically show up between the ages of 4 and 7. A lot of the evaluation scales used refer to the symptoms being noticeable before 7 years old. That's not to say that they don't show up later, but most cases are identified earlier on.

I saw signs for the year-plus before we moved, and asked the teacher and pediatrician what they thought. It wasn't until this last summer/fall that she displayed 99% of the symptoms/criteria on a regular basis for a period of 6 months or more (another criteria for the evaluations).
 

tomchamp

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crabcake said:
I wasn't looking for it to maximize in posts; I posted it because I knew there would be other parents out there who'd like to know about it. I'd have locked it from future posts after the first one if I could.

Have you tried to get a kid with a pill phobia to swallow a pill every day, lately? It's not fun, I assure you.

I know you weren't, my argumentive azz came on. No hard feelings CC...OK! Love you chicky...where is the race tomorrow? :lmao:
 
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