Fights with school kids?
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Ooooh this is complicated stuff.
Isn't it amazing how these days this stuff is complicated and back in the old days it was up to each of us to stand up to their own bully? How are we supposed to counsel our kids about this now? Sit down, report the incident and be a victim, or push back and let the bully know you won't tolerate it (the only way I ever figured out how to deal with them).
Please keep us all posted on the outcome.
I had a similar situation with my 3rd grader. According to her side of the story a kid in her class just walked up and whapped her in the head with a notebook for no real reason. So she punched him -hard- in the arm. Now both kids a written up but I'm glad she didn't take the other kid's crap.
Isn't it amazing how these days this stuff is complicated and back in the old days it was up to each of us to stand up to their own bully? How are we supposed to counsel our kids about this now? Sit down, report the incident and be a victim, or push back and let the bully know you won't tolerate it (the only way I ever figured out how to deal with them).
Please keep us all posted on the outcome.
I had a similar situation with my 3rd grader. According to her side of the story a kid in her class just walked up and whapped her in the head with a notebook for no real reason. So she punched him -hard- in the arm. Now both kids a written up but I'm glad she didn't take the other kid's crap.
tlatchaw said:
As I had previously mentioned this had prior. When my daughter a fifth grader she finally faught back after being hit by a girl who had bullied her for months. The problem was that she had told her teacher an many others of the bullying and the reply always was "If we don't see it we can't do anything about it." Finally during recess she shoved my daughter and then she faught back. I applauded her and was appalled that they were both suspended even though the other child admitted to hitting first. It is school system policy that even in defense of yourself you will be suspended too. So if the rule is the same no matter what the circumstances are then what choice is left.
Those were the days, huh? When I was in school, my teachers knew all the kids and could make reasonable deductions about what happened when they started scrapping. Here's mousy littletlatchaw said:
sitting in the office crying because 
punched him, while is saying, "Nuh uh! He hit me first!"It didn't take a genius to figure out what happened and punish accordingly.
Nowadays teachers and principals are lazy and don't want to know what happened - it's easier to sit everyone out rather than just the ones that actually caused the trouble.
mainman
Set Trippin
It was a simpler time when you went to school, weren't all of the grades in one room together?vraiblonde said:Those were the days, huh? When I was in school, my teachers knew all the kids and could make reasonable deductions about what happened when they started scrapping. Here's mousy little
It didn't take a genius to figure out what happened and punish accordingly.
Nowadays teachers and principals are lazy and don't want to know what happened - it's easier to sit everyone out rather than just the ones that actually caused the trouble.
mainman said:
Hot N Bothered
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Maybe he should press charges for assault.crabcake said:He should really be banned for that!
huntr1
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Sheit, when I was in High School freshman year, there was a guy who just would not stop messing with me. I ignored it all through middle school, but finally in 9th, I just lost the patience to deal with him. He popped me with a towel or something (it's been 19 years, forgive me if I am a little foggy on the specifics) while I was changing for gym class. I was already in a bad mood. I proceeded to put his head into an open locker. One of the 1 square foot ones. Both of his ears got cut. The head gym teacher (also the varsity football coach) was alerted to the situation. He asked "Huntr, what happened here?" I told him the truth. His response "Cretin, off to the Principle's office with you." Princliple asked what happened. I again told him the truth. His response "Hood Rat you are suspended for 5 days. Huntr, back to class." Strangely enough, this was the only "fight" I got in in High School, and nobody bothered me after that either.vraiblonde said:Those were the days, huh? When I was in school, my teachers knew all the kids and could make reasonable deductions about what happened when they started scrapping. Here's mousy little
It didn't take a genius to figure out what happened and punish accordingly.
Nowadays teachers and principals are lazy and don't want to know what happened - it's easier to sit everyone out rather than just the ones that actually caused the trouble.
It is all Bush's fault
Back in the day, when you got into a fight, you were punished at school and then at home. And the punishment at home was worse, because it usually entailed going and apoligizing to everyone among other forms of retribution. But now, when some people get in a fight, nothing happens at home. And all that results is a couple of extra days out of school - which to some people is no big deal. They wanted the time off anyway, and probably have no plans to finish high school to begin with.
As for the administration, they probably just suspend everyone, just in case someone yells "no fair" and sues the school system for discrimination.
Maybe instead of a suspension from school, they offenders are put into a "chain gang" type deal and made to clean up (in bright orange jumpsuits) where everyone can see them - take the fun out of suspensions for those who prefer it to school.
Back in the day, when you got into a fight, you were punished at school and then at home. And the punishment at home was worse, because it usually entailed going and apoligizing to everyone among other forms of retribution. But now, when some people get in a fight, nothing happens at home. And all that results is a couple of extra days out of school - which to some people is no big deal. They wanted the time off anyway, and probably have no plans to finish high school to begin with.
As for the administration, they probably just suspend everyone, just in case someone yells "no fair" and sues the school system for discrimination.
Maybe instead of a suspension from school, they offenders are put into a "chain gang" type deal and made to clean up (in bright orange jumpsuits) where everyone can see them - take the fun out of suspensions for those who prefer it to school.
That's pretty much the way it works.Makavide said:
That principal should MAKE time for a parent of a student who has been assaulted. I have personal experience with Dr. Lymas. When I needed to see her, I was told she was occupied. I planted myself in the front office until she was available. The secretaries got tired of me sitting there, and finally got me in. It's not necessarily the principal who said she is busy, but the secretaries who, for whatever reason, are protecting her from irate parents. She claims to have an open door policy . . . let her prove it.
Good luck.
Good luck.
mAlice
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tlatchaw said:
The only thing that seemed to impact school was the restraining order. The kid had to stay away from my daughter.
Lockdown was after school hours. An officer drops by and checks on them once or twice a week, they have to be in by a certain hour, stuff like that.