UglyBear
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Can you post a picture that shows the damage? Are the pilings still solid?
Flood Tide tomorrow 10/29
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Sorry to hear that. I can offer up a small skiff as a work platform, if you decide to tackle the work yourself.
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Sounds like it could be a party....
ontheriver
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Don't know how to post pics..
. The pilings are fine, just the decking took the hit. Over half the deck boards are gone.
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Would the insurance Co. be willing to buy new wood? I'll bet we could get enough laborers to lay down new decking, if the pilings are ok. Then move on to the next site, like St. Georges Island.Don't know how to post pics..
ontheriver
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The pilings are fine.
I'll buy the wood.
For the haters out there..... this is who this forums' people are.
FWIW...we've always lost decking boards to flood tides every year (3 piers...two in 7D and the one on St. George's Island). Then..we started laying them in with stainless steel deck screws. Problem solved.
The traditional use of galvanized nails does not come close to the same level of grip and reliability. The galvanized nails always eventually rust off.
The traditional use of galvanized nails does not come close to the same level of grip and reliability. The galvanized nails always eventually rust off.
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I was going to say... you've had more experience with this than anyone and know what works and what's needed for a good repair.
@ontheriver , how long is the dock, and how much of it is missing?
UglyBear
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There’s a four-day weekend coming up, for those of us still working normal schedules.
I volunteer myself any day except Thu evening!!!
ontheriver
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100' long with a 20' "L" There is a bench and filet table on the "L"
More than half of the deck boards are gone. I'd like to replace all the boards...
Couple of things to mention there: 2x8 deck boards are more efficient from an installation standpoint than 2x6. Not sure what you have now... Second, the grade of "treated" lumber available from the likes of Lowe's or 84 lumber is terrible. The boards don't last more than a few years. I buy all my dock lumber through TJ Boothe directly and he gets it in tractor trailer loads regularly from some place in the Carolinas where they still do industrial- grade ground-contact wood treating.
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I would think, realistically, by the time material is ordered and delivered, and with holidays, after the New Year might be more easily scheduled. And then there's the weather.... I know I've had my fill of working on the docks soaking wet in Jan/Feb.
ontheriver
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This is all true. As much as I love sittin' on the pier, when it's cold and windy I don't sit for long. Spring is more realistic.
I would think, realistically, by the time material is ordered and delivered, and with holidays, after the New Year might be more easily scheduled. And then there's the weather.... I know I've had my fill of working on the docks soaking wet in Jan/Feb.
It just hurts my feelings looking at it.
willie
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Gilligan is absolutely right about using stainless! The crap they have on the shelf at Lowe's totally dissolve in 3 years. If you read the very small print, it says not to be used within 1000 ft of salt water. If you order online (not available in the store) Lowe's does have good prices for Grip-Rite 3" #10 Stainless Deck Screws. T25. They don't shear off like a lot of stainless do and the T25 grip better than square drive. I don't know what happened but anything galvanized anymore is junk. I have 16D galvanized nails in part of my pier that was done in the late '70s that are ugly but solid and then a section that was done about 10 years ago with 16D galvanized and they are completely gone.
Snead's has far superior lumber than Lowe's and they also carry marine grade. The prices are horrible everywhere.
Snead's has far superior lumber than Lowe's and they also carry marine grade. The prices are horrible everywhere.
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Exactly same here!....any work nailed in the last 10 years or so might as well have been done with clean framing nails!
Didn't they start using bizmuth instead of lead in the galvinox about 10-15 years ago?
Your typical hot dip galvanizing has been forced to use reduced-lead zinc and, yes, bizmuth was substituted to make the coating flow out like lead in the zinc does. But it's the zinc that is the "active ingredient" and so I'm not sure exactly what else is factoring in to make "modern" galvanized nails last a shorter time. At the end of the day, all galvanized steel eventually rusts in saltwater contact. I'm replacing 5/8" bolts in my 250+ foot pier all the time. Some are about 60 years old....so it's not a huge surprise.
ontheriver
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I probably shouldn't post this yet, but Huge shout out to Birch Marine Construction!!!! They are working on my seawall and I am stoked about how good it looks so far. I am beyond thrilled to have this fantastic company repairing my little slice of heaven.
I will post an update when it's finished. Woohoo!
I will post an update when it's finished. Woohoo!
Awesome! Post pics!
ontheriver
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I will try