For all you civil service types

[dems4me]

Originally posted by Pete
True........BTW, if they had to instute a draft and you got drafted what road would you take to Canada? Route 1 through Maine or over through NY at Niagra?

Why do you have to be such a sarcastic Jerkkk sometimes???Noone said anything about avoiding a non-existing forced draft. You are judging me entirely wrong based on your limited knowledge of librals. Many liberals DID fight in wars - we didn't all flee to Canada. GFY

 

[jlabsher]

Been there, done that. My original post had to do with the fact that the prez (for the 3rd year in a row) is shortshafting the civil service as compared to the military.

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by dems4me
Why do you have to be such a sarcastic Jerkkk sometimes???Noone said anything about avoiding a non-existing forced draft. You are judging me entirely wrong based on your limited knowledge of librals. Many liberals DID fight in wars - we didn't all flee to Canada. GFY

I am not judging you based on my limited knowledge of liberals, I am judging you based on what you said. You are the one who said:

Originally posted by dems4me
No, I don't want the decision of my life to be in anyone else's hands but my own. If people want to put me in the line of fire because they feel the sky is red and not blue, then no I don't want to risk my life for something petty. I am and always have been a Christian first and an American second .

:shrug:

I suppose it was poor of me to think you would have gone to Canada.........you might have chosen to go to the UK instead.

Oh yea, thats pretty mean language from a member of the "kinder gentler" party.

 

[Elle]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
For your information, military personnel DON'T get free meals once they're out of basic training.

Actually, you do get a food allowance, or at least if you have a family you do. Not that the military is a free ride or anything but I just consider it one of the perks, like my job has perks so do they. I think the pay is pretty equal after you add up all of the total perks and salary.

However on this topic my feelings are if there is a guy out putting his life on the line every day I'd rather give him more of a raise than someone who is sitting behind a desk each and every day.

 

[dems4me]

Originally posted by Pete
I am not judging you based on my limited knowledge of liberals, I am judging you based on what you said. You are the one who said:



:shrug:

I suppose it was poor of me to think you would have gone to Canada.........you might have chosen to go to the UK instead.

Oh yea, thats pretty mean language from a member of the "kinder gentler" party.

I still stand by that - I want to fight for a cause that I believe in that doesn't mean there are NONE or did it remotely imply I would flee to Canada or the UK :bonehead:

 

[jlabsher]

Well, some of them are putting their lives on the line. But a lot of them are reservists too and don't see all those benefits, and a lot of them have never been outside the beltway. Of course cops & firefighters do it every day too. I suppose even Halliburton employees do nowadays.

Before the current "unpleasentness" most of the military worked their usual 7 - 3:30 shifts, except fleet sailors.

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by dems4me
I still stand by that - I want to fight for a cause that I believe in that doesn't mean there are NONE or did it remotely imply I would flee to Canada or the UK :bonehead:

Have I made you angry? Have a cookie ok, not a cookie but it is the closest I could come to a cookie.

 

[Elle]

Originally posted by jlabsher
Well, some of them are putting their lives on the line. But a lot of them are reservists too and don't see all those benefits, and a lot of them have never been outside the beltway.

Yeah, b/c for a reservist, it's such a picnic to give up your weekends to go do a job that you only get $50 a day to do and the 2 week - 6 month drills are like a vacation too

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by jlabsher
the prez (for the 3rd year in a row) is shortshafting the civil service as compared to the military.

So what? You all the ones crying because of the budget deficit. Now Bush decideds to trim a corner and you cry about that, too.

What do YOU think he should trim?

 

[jlabsher]

He's been sticking it to the civil service even before the deficit existed. Of course, spending 12 Billion on a missle defense makes sense these days, I know terrorists have ICBMs. (Just one cut)

 

[dems4me]

Originally posted by Pete
Have I made you angry? Have a cookie ok, not a cookie but it is the closest I could come to a cookie.

Thanks for the cookie (I'd prefer your beer icon over a cookie, so you guessed well). Just can't grab one right now. I've had a headache all day and people are getting all paranoid here at the office talking about ricin. It's like the only topic here and the only thing on people's brains. We didn't receive mail today because as usual, our's is routed through the same post office. I just don't trust the governement on issues like this.

Just like anthrax a few years ago where the government was sooo slow to give Cipro to the postal workers, but yet the government received it soo much quicker. Kind of as if anthrax inhalation is immune to everyone but govnt workers or something. A few years ago during this crisis, when they came for testing in their space suits, we were just standing around (totally unprotected) and they were telling us all not to worry, just routine tests, meanwhile they are dressed for the moon - it almost would have looked like post card or something with me waiving in the background or something.

Now that I'm on a rant I wish the CIA would get rid of Tenant (sp?) under his intelligence there has been 9/11, anthrax, snipers, wmd bogusness and now ricin. What IS he doing? Thanks for letting me rant Pete. Hope I didn't hurt your head to bad from the -- here (sorry, just like you couldn't find a cookie, I couldn't find the head rub smiley.)

 

[SurfaceTension]

Originally posted by jlabsher
Of course cops & firefighters do it every day too. I suppose even Halliburton employees do nowadays.

Are you saying that military pay should be increased at a higher percentage to reach parity with cops, firefighters, and Halliburton employees?
:shrug:

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by dems4me
Thanks for the cookie (I'd prefer your beer icon over a cookie, so you guessed well). Just can't grab one right now. I've had a headache all day and people are getting all paranoid here at the office talking about ricin. It's like the only topic here and the only thing on people's brains. We didn't receive mail today because as usual, our's is routed through the same post office. I just don't trust the governement on issues like this.

Just like anthrax a few years ago where the government was sooo slow to give Cipro to the postal workers, but yet the government received it soo much quicker. Kind of as if anthrax inhalation is immune to everyone but govnt workers or something. A few years ago during this crisis, when they came for testing in their space suits, we were just standing around (totally unprotected) and they were telling us all not to worry, just routine tests, meanwhile they are dressed for the moon - it almost would have looked like post card or something with me waiving in the background or something.

Now that I'm on a rant I wish the CIA would get rid of Tenant (sp?) under his intelligence there has been 9/11, anthrax, snipers, wmd bogusness and now ricin. What IS he doing? Thanks for letting me rant Pete. Hope I didn't hurt your head to bad from the -- here (sorry, just like you couldn't find a cookie, I couldn't find the head rub smiley.)

No problem, I am still going to cancel out your vote.

 

[dems4me]

Pete -- feel free to -- its only one vote of many that you can only cancel out - what about all the others?.
Unfortunately I can not vote in primary due to conflicts but I am looking forward to November!!!! Then village idoit I'll be sending you an email telling you the "tribe has spoken".

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by dems4me
Pete -- feel free to -- its only one vote of many that you can only cancel out - what about all the others?.
Unfortunately I can not vote in primary due to conflicts but I am looking forward to November!!!! Then village idoit I'll be sending you an email telling you the "tribe has spoken".

No biggie, I predict Kerry will do slightly better than Mondale. None the less, when the results come in you cannot skulk off you have to stay here and take your thrashing like a ........well I can't think of anything right this second.

 

[Elle]

Originally posted by jlabsher
Of course cops & firefighters do it every day too.

BTW, all firefighters (except for on bases) in southern maryland are volunteer, big pay there.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by jlabsher
He's been sticking it to the civil service even before the deficit existed. Of course, spending 12 Billion on a missle defense makes sense these days, I know terrorists have ICBMs.

I've always thought missile defense was a good idea and couldn't understand why Clinton scrapped it.

Anyway, you had your chance to vote for reduced military spending. I voted for an increase and my side won. Get over it.

 

[dems4me]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
I've always thought missile defense was a good idea and couldn't understand why Clinton scrapped it.

Anyway, you had your chance to vote for reduced military spending. I voted for an increase and my side won. Get over it.

From what I recall vrai, our StarWars program has yet to pass any tests that it gets tested at. Everytime they test it to see if it would block a missle - it fails. I'm going to regret saying this but.... I.... could..... be....... wrong......

 

[alex]

Hey at least the federal civil workers are getting something. Thing about all the state workers in VA who lost their jobs or the ones who kept them in other states without merit or COLAs. For some of them the only increase they have seen is in their health care costs.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by dems4me
From what I recall vrai, our StarWars program has yet to pass any tests that it gets tested at. Everytime they test it to see if it would block a missle - it fails. I'm going to regret saying this but.... I.... could..... be....... wrong......

Not sure what the status of Star Wars is. But I don't really expect something that sophisticated to work the first time out.

One more thing: think about all the jobs defense spending creates. Shoot, EVERYONE at Pax is only there because of defense spending. Then there are the homebuilders who are making money building houses for them. And the restaurant owners who making money feeding them. And the store owners who are making money suppling them with goods.

You can say it's better to spend less on defense and more on some social program, but the fact is that defense spending keeps people off the breadlines.