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newnature

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Here's a cool research I have been doing. What are your thoughts?

Genesis 1:1 shouldn’t have happened. The bible assumes that the great usurper exits and never questions that assumption. The earth flooded out proves the great usurper is not an unfounded assumption. The beginning of the universe is in Genesis 1:1. Darkness was upon the earth, because it appears the earth is now in some kind of black structure. The great usurper and those who helped him out are swimming around on the earth. Now the earth, the opposite of the created order is ‘nothing,’ (water). But to the ancients, the opposite of the created order was something much worse than ‘nothing’ (chaos). 


God just sat for awhile looking at this new black structure from his throne room, letting the great usurper sweet it out. As the great usurper swam around in this black structure board out of his mind, all of a sudden a wind (invisible force) from God swept over the water. Now God is a spirit being, meaning his body is composed of a substance called spirit. God also has a unique kind of life within that body composed of that substance called spirit, but the eternal life God has within himself produces some kind of light (His glory). It was this glory that used to be the light source to the earth, but God can’t control it, his glory just shines right through his body of spirit. As God sat in his throne room, out of nowhere he said, “Let there be light.” 


Now at one point in time in God’s life, he chose to create some kind of structure that separated him from the empty place outside of that structure. But God was not alone, because God rode around on a kind of throne chariot. God’s enthroned above four magnificent creatures. Each of these has a human body and then four faces: the face of a human, the face of a lion, the face of an ox, and the face of an eagle. These 4 magnificent creatures have the same kind of eternal life that God has within himself, but what these magnificent creatures bodies are made of, is unclear. Not only were these 4 magnificent creatures with God, but there were 24 other individuals with God. These 24 individuals are named Elders and they also have the same kind of eternal life that God has within himself, but these Elders have that eternal life in some kind of flesh and bone body. Now God’s body is different then these 24 Elders and these 4 magnificent creatures. 


We know that God did indeed create some kind of structure around him, because he went to the north side of that structure and laid the north side of it over the empty place that is outside of that structure. It is in the north of the north of that new addition to that structure, that God established a different throne to sit on, because his throne (the Ark) is in the tent that God pitched in the north of the north also. Now the reason God created this structure, it was for the beings he was about to create within it. Now God is going to create the earth in the middle of this structure, but from his throne in the north of the north, he is going to be the light source of the earth. But how can God visit the earth and have a relationship with the beings living on that earth and still maintain the light source of the earth?
 

b23hqb

Well-Known Member
Your theology seems disjointed. Not quite neo-pagan disjointed but disjointed.

I don't think it is theology, more like a "what if" that looks like it's headed for a new trilogy of some sort of good vs evil. Speculation and theory are ok, but don't make it doctrine if it doesn't match what the premise came from.
 

onel0126

Bead mumbler
Oh, yeah. BD was the first in post #4, and I was waiting for an indignant self-righteous retort from either you or onel. New dude lays it out really well and in depth, don't ya think?
Nope--no longer interested in converting the blind. It really comes down to this simple fact. Christianity did not begin in 1517. I look at the beautiful, well documented, plain and simple habits and understandings of those that knew Christ, and those that knew those who knew Christ. They were there. You, Luther, and every other pastor Bob were not. I think Protestantism is the largest collection of intellectually dishonest, can't see the forest for the trees cohort on earth. Attending two Baptist funerals in the past month in your state, one in Vero Beach, the other in Port St. Lucie, the above statement was reinforced ten fold. That being said, after "the new guy" posted his latest "Church of the what's happening now" take on the cross, you still standing by your statement that he's laid it out nicely?
 

b23hqb

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Was waiting for your input, onel, and not disappointed. Agree with you - Christianity did not start in 1517, and it certainly did not start at the formation of your catholic church. It started with Christ, and his rules and methods for obtaining eternal salvation, and no one else's.

So we continue to agree to disagree - imagine that!
 

onel0126

Bead mumbler
Was waiting for your input, onel, and not disappointed. Agree with you - Christianity did not start in 1517, and it certainly did not start at the formation of your catholic church. It started with Christ, and his rules and methods for obtaining eternal salvation, and no one else's. So we continue to agree to disagree - imagine that!
You didn't answer my question...(Last sentence)
 

onel0126

Bead mumbler
And as I sat for three evenings during the Sacred Triduum 2 weeks ago and watched the priest celebrate what Christ did the last days of his earthly life in the manner in which way Christ did, my non-denominational Christian friend whom I invited with me chimes in "you guys certainly win holy week."
 

newnature

New Member
And as I sat for three evenings during the Sacred Triduum 2 weeks ago and watched the priest celebrate what Christ did the last days of his earthly life in the manner in which way Christ did, my non-denominational Christian friend whom I invited with me chimes in "you guys certainly win holy week."

But why would the body of Christ be restored, restored to what? What God has prepared for the body of Christ is mind bending, it doesn't need to be restored.
 

onel0126

Bead mumbler
Tell exactly which part of which post you are referring to, missy.
...That being said, after "the new guy" posted his latest "Church of the what's happening now" take on the cross, you still standing by your statement that he's laid it out nicely? Got that sweetheart?
 
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newnature

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...That being said, after "the new guy" posted his latest "Church of the what's happening now" take on the cross, you still standing by your statement that he's laid it out nicely? Got that sweetheart?

Our English word ‘cross’ is the translation of the Latin ‘crux,’ but the Greek ‘stauros’ no more means a crux than the word ‘stick’ means a ‘crutch.’ Homer uses the word ‘stauros’ of an ordinary pole or stake, or a single piece of timber. And this is the meaning and usage of the word throughout the Greek classics.

Homer - 'stauros' - e.g. Thucydides iv. 90. Xenophon, Anabasis v. 2. 21.
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
...That being said, after "the new guy" posted his latest "Church of the what's happening now" take on the cross, you still standing by your statement that he's laid it out nicely? Got that sweetheart?

Another crawling out of the gutter Evangelical.

Seems a tad narcissistic in his approach. I think he likes reading his own posts......
 

newnature

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Another crawling out of the gutter Evangelical.

Seems a tad narcissistic in his approach. I think he likes reading his own posts......

Not narcissistic at all, but what good would the second Adam's blood do, falling on a piece of wood? No good at all. That Ark is where the blood of the second Adam had to fall! Crawling out of the gutter with the apostle Paul, are you ready for this rodeo?
 

b23hqb

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...That being said, after "the new guy" posted his latest "Church of the what's happening now" take on the cross, you still standing by your statement that he's laid it out nicely? Got that sweetheart?

Answer my question first, missy. What post and what part of the post - I'm not going to re-read every post of new guys.
 

TheLibertonian

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Not narcissistic at all, but what good would the second Adam's blood do, falling on a piece of wood? No good at all. That Ark is where the blood of the second Adam had to fall! Crawling out of the gutter with the apostle Paul, are you ready for this rodeo?

So I'm confused.

Are you a jewish heresy?
 

newnature

New Member
So I'm confused.

Are you a jewish heresy?

If you want God to view you today, you got to be in his son. How can you get into his son, and have all of his righteousness freely imputed to your account? By simply taking God at his word, concerning what his son accomplished for you. It is as simple as that. When God says he is satisfied with what Christ did for your sins, when Christ died for them, all your sins were all future. 


It is a son issue on your part, not a sin issue, in order to receive the gift of salivation. Faith is taking God at his word concerning what his son did on your behalf. Christ did it all, there is nothing left for you to do. God did all the giving; you do only all the receiving.
 

TheLibertonian

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If you want God to view you today, you got to be in his son. How can you get into his son, and have all of his righteousness freely imputed to your account? By simply taking God at his word, concerning what his son accomplished for you. It is as simple as that. When God says he is satisfied with what Christ did for your sins, when Christ died for them, all your sins were all future. 


It is a son issue on your part, not a sin issue, in order to receive the gift of salivation. Faith is taking God at his word concerning what his son did on your behalf. Christ did it all, there is nothing left for you to do. God did all the giving; you do only all the receiving.

Ok, so you're not a jewish heresy then, since you recognize Jesus as the messiah and son of god. Clarification, is he the son of god or part of god? You're a christian one. Fascinating. What do you call your sect?

As I understand it you're saying that the original sin has been wiped away completely and that all people are therefore innocent at birth?
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
Ok, so you're not a jewish heresy then, since you recognize Jesus as the messiah and son of god. Clarification, is he the son of god or part of god? You're a christian one. Fascinating. What do you call your sect?

As I understand it you're saying that the original sin has been wiped away completely and that all people are therefore innocent at birth?
His Sect is the "Evangelical Wacko Strip Mall Pentecostal Holiness Church of Narcissists" and you're baiting him.......:oldman:
 
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