Free Masons

chaotic

This is your captain!
What part of it is "Free"?

Couldn't I just have you come over and put up a nice brick facade on my fireplace, and pay me a couple bucks for the privilege? I'm kinda connected - I know a few people on this forum..
 
sleuth said:
I started this tread hoping to get some opinions from current and former members. I've considered many pros and cons and I've read lots of differing opinions on the subject, so anything you have to add in that arena isn't really helpful. :shrug:
Suit yourself... you don't appear to be too informed on the subject and I was simply stating my perspective...:shrug:

Good luck.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Sleuth, you have the right demonic look for the Masons, at least you did on your old website. I say go for it :yay:
 

FromTexas

This Space for Rent
Sleuth, you can't ask to be in the Mason's... you must be invited. :yay:

Its not like something you sign up for.
 

Triggerfish

New Member
sleuth said:
But Scientology, as I understand it... is a bit more of a religion.
The Masons claim to endorse no religion - they just don't allow atheists.


A very few lodges appear to accept Atheists and Agnostics.
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
Not sure how a Masonic thread belongs in the "Religion" forum, but that's just me. Sleuth, I would suggest pursuing other ways to successfully network with people. I understand that golf is a very popular way to do that, and you can control its influence on your finances. I've worked closely with a mason and have overheard his telephone conversations. My impression is that the investment of money is the tip of the iceberg. The investment of time and energy is huge. It seemed to me that this guy was involved with something just about every night, and some nights he drove some long distances to do things. Probably fine for a single guy or a married without children guy, but I don't think it would work well with a young family.
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
sleuth said:
I started this tread hoping to get some opinions from current and former members. I've considered many pros and cons and I've read lots of differing opinions on the subject, so anything you have to add in that arena isn't really helpful. :shrug:
That's like asking cult members if it's a good idea to join. :rolleyes: If you want to waste your time and money on contributing to what, in my opinion, amounts to a glorified high school clique, rather than building your family into a strong network, then you shouldn't need forum support for it.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Freemasonry is a worldwide fraternal organization. Its members are joined together by shared ideals of both a moral and metaphysical nature, and, in most of its branches, by a common belief in a Supreme Being. Freemasonry is an esoteric art, in that certain aspects of its internal work are not generally revealed to the public. Masons give numerous reasons for this, one of which is that Freemasonry uses an initiatory system of degrees to explore ethical and philosophical issues, and this system is less effective if the observer knows beforehand what will happen. It often calls itself "a peculiar system of morality veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols."

more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_masons#Ritual_and_symbols
 

willie

Well-Known Member
Dan Brown is going to explain it all to us.....
Brown wrote that he's still "a little bit in shock" over how immensely successful "The Da Vinci Code" has been. "While I had hoped readers would find these topics as enthralling as I do, I never imagined that so many people would become so engrossed." After a whirl of publicity demands for the book, he said, as of this week he is "hiding away" to work on the sequel. "As for the topic, I'd rather not say too much... except that it focuses on the brotherhood of the Masons, deals with themes of mysticism, and is partially set in Washington, D.C."
 

PJumper

New Member
sleuth said:
I started this tread hoping to get some opinions from current and former members. I've considered many pros and cons and I've read lots of differing opinions on the subject, so anything you have to add in that arena isn't really helpful. :shrug:

Being in the Navy exposed me to a lot of people who are members of the Freemasons. Their committment of helping each other is tremendous but sometimes borders on the ethical dilemma. They do not recruit, but might give hints if you are deemed worthy to join them. Yes, you need some strong endorsement from people who knows you well. There are some form of hazing during the acceptance process, the extent of which I have no knowledge. The Catholic faith seems at odds with Freemasonry because it's considered as a "Natural Religion". History Channel has shown a program on Freemasonry in late '99 or early '00 which cause the Catholic Church to emphasized to each congregation that it is in conflict with the faith.
As far as obligations, they have regular weekly meetings as well as self-help projects. As far as I know, you have to be financially stable to be a member.
 
K

Katie

Guest
I had a boyfriend that WAS and still is VERY involved in Freemasonry. He was the Worshipful Master of the lodge, and while doing that he would be gone about 4 nights a week, and we had people at the house for lessons. They were a great group of guys though. I helped with several of the dinners they had at the lodge, and it was a great experience.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
FromTexas said:
Sleuth, you can't ask to be in the Mason's... you must be invited. :yay:

Its not like something you sign up for.
Not true! You have to ask to show the desire to be a Mason. The Masons are polytheistic. They believe in many gods and goddesses.

There are many people that claim to be Christians that belong to the Masons; my dad did. I was even a DeMolay. He eventually quit going to the lodge even though he was a 32nd degree Mason. He was a Christian and I guess he couldn't reconcile polytheism with One True God.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
2ndAmendment said:
Not true! You have to ask to show the desire to be a Mason. The Masons are polytheistic. They believe in many gods and goddesses.

There are many people that claim to be Christians that belong to the Masons; my dad did. I was even a DeMolay. He eventually quit going to the lodge even though he was a 32nd degree Mason. He was a Christian and I guess he couldn't reconcile polytheism with One True God.
A Catholic friend once told me that when Masons ascend to the highest degrees, they're told, "By the way, we hate Catholics." In another thread I wrote about the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail," which Dan Brown used as inspiration for his novel. "Holy Blood" suggested that the Freemasons were one of the groups working to preserve what they regarded as the sacred feminine, specifically the religious heritage of Mary Magdalene. According to the book, that would have put the Masons and similar groups in opposition to the Catholic orthodoxy. If that's true, my friend may have simply been repeating the party line of the Church. I really don't know a lot about Freemasonry.
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
2ndAmendment said:
They do a lot of charity work. Wolves in sheeps clothing.
Would you really say they're polytheistic or do they simply refuse to endorse any one religion over anyone else's? The latter seems to be what I'm hearing/reading the most.

And Tonio... that's ok. Lots of people hate Catholics. :razz:
 

Cletus_Vandam

New Member
The “masons” have intrigued me as well, though I never really contemplated joining.

I guess I always look at these type of groups (Free Masons, Moose, Elks, Lions, etc…) as a way to get out of the house and away from a nagging wife. And unfortunately for the groups, I love being around my “non-nagging” wife.

BTW, does anyone know what the 33 is all about with the masons? I knew one and he refused to tell me… What’s’ that all about?
 
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