Govt Work at Home May Be Over
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I’ve done that a lot, with Teams - sometimes work on THE VERY THING we’re talking about at the meeting - whereas previously I just sit there waiting for it to end after I’ve spoken my two minutes worth. Before we went telework I would prefer attending electronically if possible. In most business meetings, if you’re not one of the five people talking - you’re just sitting.
WingsOfGold
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Wife worked for a non profit as the CFO, she went into work everyday. QUIT because the receptionist worked from home and she had to do the greeting for walkins. LOLOL
See, that’s weird because the receptionist’s job is to be there. That would be like the janitor working from home.
glhs837
Power with Control
We have three remote workers. One in FL, the other in PA, not sure where the third is. Pretty sure all three would just bail. One came to us from Lockheed, and he would go back to them. and would, he lived here for three years and his wife despised it. And it would be our loss, guys one of the best at what he does. The other two are retired from govt and military service and dont need the money. All three are stellar and are always available. Rest of us have telework available, and how much varies. I'm two days in, three out unless I have anything that needs me on base.
OccamsRazor
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Calling
on these numbers...If workers DO NOT have a place to go for in-person work, then where are they spending these 80% of their working hours?
Of the dozen or so government workers that I personally know, only 1 of them spends more than 1 day a week going to in-person work.
EDIT: I think there will be a bit of blow back if in-person work in mandated. For instance, I am quite sure there are a lot (not a majority, but quite a few) of these remote teleworkers that are scamming. Either by drawing locality pay that is undeserved OR working 2 jobs without reporting it. Serious issues for those people! Besides that, I am sure there will be a lot of people who decide to retire or even quit due to the "hardship" of having to actually go into work
Regardless, at least this will free up some positions that others can advance in to.
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Hiring freeze.
OccamsRazor
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Does that stop promotions? Or filling empty positions with current employees? That is was I meant by "others can advance in to."
No promotions. Only lateral transfers allowed.
PeoplesElbow
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There is a qualifier to that 80% number saying it excludes those workers with no office to go to.Calling
If workers DO NOT have a place to go for in-person work, then where are they spending these 80% of their working hours?
Of the dozen or so government workers that I personally know, only 1 of them spends more than 1 day a week going to in-person work.
EDIT: I think there will be a bit of blow back if in-person work in mandated. For instance, I am quite sure there are a lot (not a majority, but quite a few) of these remote teleworkers that are scamming. Either by drawing locality pay that is undeserved OR working 2 jobs without reporting it. Serious issues for those people! Besides that, I am sure there will be a lot of people who decide to retire or even quit due to the "hardship" of having to actually go into work
PeoplesElbow
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Just curious what people's hard-on is for not liking the idea that people can telework?
I've seen the "not fair to those who can't" but that sounds like some whiny Democrat crap to me.....it's not fair Bob makes more than Betty.....
As I've said many times I spend 95% of my hours in the office and I simply don't want all those people back in the office.
I've seen the "not fair to those who can't" but that sounds like some whiny Democrat crap to me.....it's not fair Bob makes more than Betty.....
As I've said many times I spend 95% of my hours in the office and I simply don't want all those people back in the office.
Agree. I have the telework option myself and my program has increased efficiency and production because most of the people are teleworking. Why is that? No 1-1.5 hour BS sessions every morning before actually getting to work. 1-2 hour meetings now reduced to 30-45 minutes on MS Teams, during which I can listen to what is being said while working on a separate monitor. Meanwhile my office space has been converted to the "hotel" pool. I no longer have a desk to go to because it no longer exists. I will gladly return to an office space full time when I get an office space full time. And remember, the entire program will need full time spaces too. We are small, only 18 people, but try and get 18 desks assigned full time. I'm waiting ...
PeoplesElbow
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From what I understand the base is "out of phone numbers" and doesn't want to pony up the money required to get another exchange so there were people without a phone. I was moving years ago and someone was freaking out that I put in an order to transfer my number to my new space.
Grumpy
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Agree...lost my office also and my whole area(floor) has been turned into a 'hotel' pool
LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
For the class:
Here are some real numbers of very low building utilization percentages ...
Total seating capacity for all listed HQ's = 38,433. Actual occupancy usage total for all HQ's = 2,759. Which is an overall occupancy rate of 7.17%. Which means that about 92.83% of federal workers did not go to their offices. 92%, did not go to their offices!!! That is super crazy.
But just think of the economic revitalization of downtown DC with just those 38 thousand plus returning to their offices? In addition, I'm guessing that a whole bunch of those work from home people that bought newer/new low mpg cars/SUV's/trucks/EV's while skimming from home, will be traded in for better gas mileage vehicles. It's an economic win all around.
Calling
If workers DO NOT have a place to go for in-person work, then where are they spending these 80% of their working hours?
Of the dozen or so government workers that I personally know, only 1 of them spends more than 1 day a week going to in-person work.
EDIT: I think there will be a bit of blow back if in-person work in mandated. For instance, I am quite sure there are a lot (not a majority, but quite a few) of these remote teleworkers that are scamming. Either by drawing locality pay that is undeserved OR working 2 jobs without reporting it. Serious issues for those people! Besides that, I am sure there will be a lot of people who decide to retire or even quit due to the "hardship" of having to actually go into work
For the class:
Here are some real numbers of very low building utilization percentages ...
Total seating capacity for all listed HQ's = 38,433. Actual occupancy usage total for all HQ's = 2,759. Which is an overall occupancy rate of 7.17%. Which means that about 92.83% of federal workers did not go to their offices. 92%, did not go to their offices!!! That is super crazy.
But just think of the economic revitalization of downtown DC with just those 38 thousand plus returning to their offices? In addition, I'm guessing that a whole bunch of those work from home people that bought newer/new low mpg cars/SUV's/trucks/EV's while skimming from home, will be traded in for better gas mileage vehicles. It's an economic win all around.
For the class: Public Buildings Reform Board. It's mandated to identify opportunities for the Government to reduce significantly its inventory of civilian real property and reduce costs to the Government.For your consideration ...
For the class:
Here are some real numbers of very low building utilization percentages ...
Total seating capacity for all listed HQ's = 38,433. Actual occupancy usage total for all HQ's = 2,759. Which is an overall occupancy rate of 7.17%. Which means that about 92.83% of federal workers did not go to their offices. 92%, did not go to their offices!!! That is super crazy.
But just think of the economic revitalization of downtown DC with just those 38 thousand plus returning to their offices? In addition, I'm guessing that a whole bunch of those work from home people that bought newer/new low mpg cars/SUV's/trucks/EV's while skimming from home, will be traded in for better gas mileage vehicles. It's an economic win all around.
So instead of trying to fill those spaces as you desire, they are mandated to reduce the amount of spaces and their associated costs. Sounds like an even better economic win for the US taxpayers.
Technically we are not teleworking and we are not working from home. We are working from remote locations. That will still be allowed. Nothing will change for those of us working from remote locations.
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OccamsRazor
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That's some word gymnastics there....
If you are not in-person/office OR on official orders you are either..
- Teleworking - Local
- Teleworking - Remote