Govt Work at Home May Be Over

[OccamsRazor]

Where are those that said "They are ending Telework. NOT Remote work."

Seems to me that the guidance specifically stated "To end Remote Work."

 

[GURPS]

 

[TPD]

So I hear an email was sent this morning to some demanding a return to the office within 30 days…

 

[OccamsRazor]

So I hear an email was sent this morning to some demanding a return to the office within 30 days…

Heard the same. "End to Remote Work" is what it was titled (not Telework but... Remote work collectively)
If you focus your senses, you can still smell the stench of the collective crap in the pants of remote workers and teleworkers.

 

[DaSDGuy]

So I hear an email was sent this morning to some demanding a return to the office within 30 days…

Yep. It went to NAWC-AD personnel and it apples only to them. They are just one of the tenant activities at NAS Patuxent River.

 

[OccamsRazor]

It went to NAWC-AD personnel and it apples only to them. They are just one of the tenant activities at NAS Patuxent River.

Actually, it was from OPM and it was sent to all departments and agencies so....

 

[DaSDGuy]

Actually, it was from OPM and it was sent to all departments and agencies so....

So until I receive it I'm not bothered. Why are you?

 

[phreddyp]

In actuality, at least in the Baltimore/DC area IT world, government workers make less than their counterparts in the private sector. Benefits wise, yes the feds get better benefits than most private sector places. And the big thing with that is the health care benefit. The feds have many plans to select from and the gov picks up 72% of the tab. There is also a pension which was discussed here already.

Now as far as underworked, I can't paint everyone with that broad brush. I would suspect it's like any place else where there are people who do their job and more, and there are slackers. I think the biggest problem with government is that it seems like you can't get rid of the slackers. This has resulted in some of the bloated workforce that needs to be reduced.

Might I ask exactly who did the survey that came to that conclusion about Government workers being paid less and exactly how did they collect the data?
I can hardly wait for the answer.

 

[OccamsRazor]

So until I receive it I'm not bothered. Why are you?

Oh.. I'm not. It really doesn't effect me.
I am merely stating FACTS and not putting out falsehoods like "Its only for NAWC-AD."
Just because you haven't "received" it yet does not mean it does not apply to you.
Wait until you actually see the memo and receive the info.

 

[DaSDGuy]

Oh.. I'm not. It really doesn't effect me.
I am merely stating FACTS and not putting out falsehoods like "Its only for NAWC-AD."
Just because you haven't "received" it yet does not mean it does not apply to you.
Wait until you actually see the memo and receive the info.

Fact - it doesn't apply to me until I am informed by my command structure, not you. Until directed otherwise it DOES only apply to the email recipients. So far that is NAWC-AD only, regardless of how you want to intimidate and tell your version of the story.
I wonder how long it will take and and how much it will cost to build new buildings, because the office space does not exist for all workers at NAS Patuxent River.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Fact - it doesn't apply to me until I am informed by my command structure, not you. Until directed otherwise it DOES only apply to the email recipients. So far that is NAWC-AD only, regardless of how you want to intimidate and tell your version of the story.

Not trying to "intimidate." Just passing along the FACTS.
Fact: The Directive came from the President.
Fact: The Notice/Directive was passed down from OPM.
Fact: The Directive is titled for and applies to "ALL Government Agencies."
On that note, you keep telling yourself that someone above you will just disregard direction from the President and OPM and exclude you. Good Luck with that..

 

[SamSpade]

Memorandum we got this morning essentially says all telework agreements need to be ended . Goes on to say where exceptions will be allowed.

 

[Clem72]

Now as far as underworked, I can't paint everyone with that broad brush. I would suspect it's like any place else where there are people who do their job and more, and there are slackers. I think the biggest problem with government is that it seems like you can't get rid of the slackers. This has resulted in some of the bloated workforce that needs to be reduced.

This is accurate, though it changes from workplace to workplace. Where the work is difficult and the billets few, the supervisors will jump through the hoops necessary to remove poor performers. Other places will just accept them as a lost cause or work to make them uncomfortable enough to move on to a different (government) job.

I don't think most government workers (except those in the unions) would argue removing the useless guys is a good thing. I have seen zero actual work towards that end.

If we can have 5 EOs targeting work from home or removing non-career status employees you think they would be able to produce an EO to make it easier to separate employees based on poor evaluations without having to jump through the endless performance improvement plan process (which has about a million ways to reset the clock).

 

[Clem72]

Might I ask exactly who did the survey that came to that conclusion about Government workers being paid less and exactly how did they collect the data?
I can hardly wait for the answer.

OMB and OPM do surveys every year when they produce salary recommendations that get overridden by the president or Congress. EVERY YEAR.

They always state the same thing, when considering the total compensation package (pay + benefits) and directly comparing occupations most blue collar government workers make considerably more than their industry equivalents, while white collar workers generally make somewhat less to considerably less depending on vocation, with fields requiring degrees (such as the engineering, accountant, lawyer, doctor, etc) having the most striking difference.

This is separate from the studies done by think tanks which compare an across the board average government salary vs average industry that finds government gets paid more. That's a "no duh" result, as the government by and large employs white collar workers and contracts out menial labor.

 

[vraiblonde]

Did anyone really think remote work would go on forever? I feel like everyone had to have realized that at some point they'd be expected to go back to the office.

 

[Sneakers]

Did anyone really think remote work would go on forever? I feel like everyone had to have realized that at some point they'd be expected to go back to the office.

The people remote working would sure prefer it to remain. They've gotten used to the more relaxed work style.
And not a dig on anyone tele-working or any reference to getting their tasks completed, but prior to Covid there were very few cars on the road during "working" hours. Now it looks like Saturday morning every day of the week, all the time. How many of these people are supposed to be working while running personal errands? I kind of feel it's disingenuous and lacks integrity. But I come from a different time and work ethic, and have been retired for over 10 years now, so my opinion is my own and doesn't mean a hill of beans.

 

[stgislander]

I am soooooo looking forward to remote working. Gilligan is getting to be too much to deal with every day.

:ducksandruns:

 

[Kyle]

The people remote working would sure prefer it to remain. They've gotten used to the more relaxed work style.

No more "Bathrobe Mondays" and "no pants paydays"

 

[DaSDGuy]

No more "Bathrobe Mondays" and "no pants paydays"

Who says we can't go to the office wearing our current attire?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Who says we can't go to the office wearing our current attire?

The government has no official dress code