"He's the president elect"

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Ok, so which state legislatures do you think are going to overturn their states voters?

in any case, you are pointing to something that isn’t going to happen to justify your outrage over Chris wallace calling joe biden president elect.

It's not an overturning of votes. It's not voting, thus reducing the number of electors for Biden. But, I will admit that my confidence in this happening is quite low. Even though 8 of the 9 swing states have republican legislatures, I am having a hard time seeing them throwing this country into complete chaos. Your pals on the left would lose their every-hating minds. If you think what we saw from ANTIFA and BLM in the recent past was bad... I've said this several times... I don't think anyone wants their name tagged to causing this chaos.

You really think I'm trying to justify anything regarding Wallace? Wallace is who he is. I'm sure he's a really nice guy. He used to be an objective reporter. The Biden/Trump debate showed he has an agenda. If Azar doesn't want to refer to Biden as "president elect" it's not Wallace's job to force him to. Because, in fact, as I pointed from a technical standpoint, Biden is not president elect yet. Wallace can call Biden anything he wants. But, he wrong in trying to correct others to do the same. That's just the tip of my problems with Wallace. He has lost his objectivity.
 
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MSally

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It's not an overturning of votes. It's not voting, thus reducing the number of electors for Biden. But, I will admit that my confidence in this happening is quite low. Even though 8 of the 9 swing states have republican legislatures, I am having a hard time seeing them throwing this country into complete chaos. Your pals on the left would lose their every-hating minds. If you think what we saw from ANTIFA and BLM in the recent past was bad... I've said this several times... I don't think anyone wants their name tagged to causing this chaos.

You really think I'm trying to justify anything regarding Wallace? Wallace is who he is. I'm sure he's a really nice guy. He used to be an objective reporter. The Biden/Trump debate showed he has an agenda. If Azar doesn't want to refer to Biden as "president elect" it's not Wallace's job to force him to. Because, in fact, as I pointed from a technical standpoint, Biden is not president elect yet. Wallace can call Biden anything he wants. But, he wrong in trying to correct others to do the same. That's just the tip of my problems with Wallace. He has lost his objectivity.
The left isn’t ‘my pals’, but I would hope all patriots would lose their minds if State legislators Tried to override the will of the people.the people voted, Biden won. Chris wallace didn’t lose his objectivity, he just isn’t drinking the orange koolaide and therefore he calls it as he sees it, not according to trumps narrative.
 

Monello

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The left isn’t ‘my pals’, but I would hope all patriots would lose their minds if State legislators Tried to override the will of the people.the people voted, Biden won. Chris wallace didn’t lose his objectivity, he just isn’t drinking the orange koolaide and therefore he calls it as he sees it, not according to trumps narrative.
But if there is voter fraud, then biden didn't win. The person getting the most legally cast votes, in each state, won.

You know how hingsight is 2020? This appears to be 1 of those instances. Prior to the election we were hearing a lot of talk about Trump not accepting the election results. The media painted a guaranteed blue wave with their poll results. I have to believe that analytics will/can show some irregularities. Those irregularities will favor biden. If you believe you have been cheated, you question the outcome and demand some sort of remedy. To say oh well, it's over and done with because the other side will pitch a fit if it turns out the results were actually in favor of their opponents is crazy talk.
 

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If fraud can be proved and persons named that perpetrated it, I want to see them punished so that the next cheat will think twice before they cheat.
 

MSally

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But if there is voter fraud, then biden didn't win. The person getting the most legally cast votes, in each state, won.

You know how hingsight is 2020? This appears to be 1 of those instances. Prior to the election we were hearing a lot of talk about Trump not accepting the election results. The media painted a guaranteed blue wave with their poll results. I have to believe that analytics will/can show some irregularities. Those irregularities will favor biden. If you believe you have been cheated, you question the outcome and demand some sort of remedy. To say oh well, it's over and done with because the other side will pitch a fit if it turns out the results were actually in favor of their opponents is crazy talk.
What proof is there of voter fraud changing the result of this election?

it’s really that simple at this point. The votes have been counted and recounted. The results are certified. The suits have been dismissed for lack of evidence. Put up or shut up time was last week and neither Sid nor Rudy put up.
 

Monello

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What proof is there of voter fraud changing the result of this election?

it’s really that simple at this point. The votes have been counted and recounted. The results are certified. The suits have been dismissed for lack of evidence. Put up or shut up time was last week and neither Sid nor Rudy put up.
Y'all screamed election collusion for 3 years. But we only get 3 weeks?
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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What proof is there of voter fraud changing the result of this election?

it’s really that simple at this point. The votes have been counted and recounted. The results are certified. The suits have been dismissed for lack of evidence. Put up or shut up time was last week and neither Sid nor Rudy put up.
What amazes me is you think the only way for there to be fraud is the Where ballots Are counted incorrectly. It goes much deeper than that.
 

MSally

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Y'all screamed election collusion for 3 years. But we only get 3 weeks?
I didn’t scream about collusion ever. You are welcome to get a vag hat at protest President Biden being inaugurated if you want. It won’t change anything more than it did 4 years ago.being a sore loser is stupid, doesn’t matter what side of the aisle you are on.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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I didn’t scream about collusion ever. You are welcome to get a vag hat at protest President Biden being inaugurated if you want. It won’t change anything more than it did 4 years ago.being a sore loser is stupid, doesn’t matter what side of the aisle you are on.
I think your are missing the point. This is much bigger than whether it’s Biden or trump in the whitehouse. It’s about ensuring our future elections are not a sham. Everyone has come to terms for the most part that Biden will be inaugurated in January. There is a reason the left wants trump to concede, When he concedes active investigations cease and there is leas of a chance that the cheating will be exposed. Shame on the media for ignoring and downplaying this as well. No America should want to live in a country where elections are decided by the media, those counting the ballots and state and local board of election. Elections are decided by the people, not for the people.
 

MSally

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I think your are missing the point. This is much bigger than whether it’s Biden or trump in the whitehouse. It’s about ensuring our future elections are not a sham. Everyone has come to terms for the most part that Biden will be inaugurated in January. There is a reason the left wants trump to concede, When he concedes active investigations cease and there is leas of a chance that the cheating will be exposed. Shame on the media for ignoring and downplaying this as well. No America should want to live in a country where elections are decided by the media, those counting the ballots and state and local board of election. Elections are decided by the people, not for the people.
This election was not a sham. These cases are not spurning a bunch of criminal cases, they are being dismissed for lack of evidence. This election was decided by the people. That’s the point.

BTW, trump claimed the 2016 was full of fraud To the tune of 3M votes, he had his people investigate it And his own people didn’t find evidence. Then he had 4 years to fix any issues we might have had. Instead his legal team is filing last minute hail Mary’s after he lost.
 

RoseRed

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This election was not a sham. These cases are not spurning a bunch of criminal cases, they are being dismissed for lack of evidence. This election was decided by the people. That’s the point.

BTW, trump claimed the 2016 was full of fraud To the tune of 3M votes, he had his people investigate it And his own people didn’t find evidence. Then he had 4 years to fix any issues we might have had. Instead his legal team is filing last minute hail Mary’s after he lost.
Linkie?
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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This election was not a sham. These cases are not spurning a bunch of criminal cases, they are being dismissed for lack of evidence. This election was decided by the people. That’s the point.

BTW, trump claimed the 2016 was full of fraud To the tune of 3M votes, he had his people investigate it And his own people didn’t find evidence. Then he had 4 years to fix any issues we might have had. Instead his legal team is filing last minute hail Mary’s after he lost.
2016 is in no way similar to 2020. Covid was the perfect cover to pull the wool over the American people’s eyes.
 

Louise

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It's not an overturning of votes. It's not voting, thus reducing the number of electors for Biden. But, I will admit that my confidence in this happening is quite low. Even though 8 of the 9 swing states have republican legislatures, I am having a hard time seeing them throwing this country into complete chaos. Your pals on the left would lose their every-hating minds. If you think what we saw from ANTIFA and BLM in the recent past was bad... I've said this several times... I don't think anyone wants their name tagged to causing this chaos.

You really think I'm trying to justify anything regarding Wallace? Wallace is who he is. I'm sure he's a really nice guy. He used to be an objective reporter. The Biden/Trump debate showed he has an agenda. If Azar doesn't want to refer to Biden as "president elect" it's not Wallace's job to force him to. Because, in fact, as I pointed from a technical standpoint, Biden is not president elect yet. Wallace can call Biden anything he wants. But, he wrong in trying to correct others to do the same. That's just the tip of my problems with Wallace. He has lost his objectivity.

His father would not be proud of him. God bless the USA; whichever way it goes. Be vigilante, y’all. We have seen the momentum of a takeover for a while, now. Go Trump, and freedom!!!! :patriot:
 

Louise

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You forget, Hillary conceded. Every state where suits are pending/ongoing: WI, MI, PA, GA, AZ, NV. I might have missed some.

The final tally doesn't happen until Jan 6. Unless Trump concedes, Biden is not president elect.

That would be the day after my birthdsy. The best present in my then 66 years would be that Trump remains President. The best thing since the original revolution. Our ancestors did the right thing; considering what is going on in the UK, presently. Go, USA!
 

SamSpade

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But if there is voter fraud, then biden didn't win.

And the seeming bewilderment of the left - and of Dems - I just don't get it but I've seen it too many times. I have Facebook - I guess I will call them acquaintances because they would totally unfriend me after many years if they knew I voted for Trump - who insist on their pages that the whole "illegal votes" phrase is just another racist way to deprive people of their rightful vote.

But at least anecdotally - we DO know that the dead have cast votes - and people showed up at the polls and surprise! found out someone already cast their vote - and people have voted twice in elections - and bragged about it publicly. This DOES happen, and it isn't even hard to look up, get names and dates. Happens. Right in our backyard we have Wendy Rosen, who ran for the 1st District in Maryland - who had to drop out of the race because - she voted illegally. Twice. In Florida - her legal residence - and in Baltimore County. Not terribly apologetic about it either. Calling it an "act of civil disobedience". Yeah. It's cheating.

Look, this stuff happens. A lot. And those votes are every bit as illegally cast as would be if I registered my pets and under age children and cast votes for them. Let this sink in - an illegally cast vote DISENFRANCHISES a person who cast a legal one.

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Asking this - if the shoe were on the other foot - if Trump were believed widely by Democrats to have cheated to win the White House - would the left have just taken it lying down?

Ding-ding-ding! No crap. They did NOT. Ask Robert Mueller. Ask Hillary. Ask the entire media for the past four years. Illegitimate President my ass.

THIS - is what I don't understand. Just four years ago - and every day since - the left has been screaming that Trump cheated his way in. They STILL think that. (And yet inexplicably ALSO believe there wasn't ANY cheating THIS time).

Something else - every time a Democrat gets in - and the right wing press gives him both barrels and treats him harshly - the left gasps, clutches their pearls and says with a collective voice "Oh My Gosh - we NEVER treated (Reagan/Bush/Bush/ TRUMP) like that. We disagreed but we respected him. That goes double for his VP (Bush/Quayle/Cheney/Pence)." Mark my words. They will claim they treated Trump fairly and with respect. And the Dems will agree. Remember how after 2000, the left said that they'd have voted for McCain had HE won the nomination? Eight years later, McCain becomes the boogeyman, and they unload on him. Until Trump. Then he's a war hero again.

Do they all have ten second memories? Do they think we do?
 

PrchJrkr

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Do they all have ten second memories? Do they think we do?
I wish I had an answer to this. They really must think that anyone that doesn't agree with them are stupid. It's either that or they believe that if they repeat something enough times, it will become truth. I can't understand the one's that see something with their on eyes and then report something totally different. It's not just an interpretation thing, they tell a completely different version of something we all have seen with our own eyes and try to tell us, "No, that's not what happened". They depend on the uninformed for their power. Thinking people question their lies. Their blind followers, not so much. It's easier to perpetuate the lies, than it is to refute them.
 
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