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Well, what I said still stands then. That it is the sun's energy that is warming the waters of the earth. (And in some areas, undersea volcanic venting and activity.) And since there are convection currents within bodies of water, as is in air, gives rise to waters heating unevenly, as well as fresh water constantly being added to waters with high salinity when it rains over those waters that changes the water's composition causing that cooler fresh water to sink creating convection currents, causing uneven warming of those bodies of water. Warm water river currents are feeding into the gulf making it warmer which can evaporate at a higher rate feeding storms, in addition to the warming effect the sun provides to the Gulf as well.
Also, a major portion of the Gulf's perimeter area is relatively shallow, then drops to near a mile deep. Even going out 10 miles, the depth in many places is only 45 feet deep and 70 feet deep at 20 miles out. Plus, the Gulf is pretty much a large bowl of water that sits at the Tropic of Cancer getting lots of the sun's energy daily, in addition to the inflow of warmer waters from the Caribbean Sea via The Gulf of Mexico loop current which then feeds into the the Gulf Stream current going north following the east coast.
But this is interesting. I've never seen a tropical storm develop like this in the Gulf then go east towards Florida before. Looks like the Tampa area is gonna get pounded once again.
Gulf of Mexico warming at faster rate than global ocean, study finds
While weather and ecosystem effects are being seen, one expert says the warming is still within a 'reasonable range.'www.tpr.org
Well, what I said still stands then. That it is the sun's energy that is warming the waters of the earth. (And in some areas, undersea volcanic venting and activity.) And since there are convection currents within bodies of water, as is in air, gives rise to waters heating unevenly, as well as fresh water constantly being added to waters with high salinity when it rains over those waters that changes the water's composition causing that cooler fresh water to sink creating convection currents, causing uneven warming of those bodies of water. Warm water river currents are feeding into the gulf making it warmer which can evaporate at a higher rate feeding storms, in addition to the warming effect the sun provides to the Gulf as well.
Also, a major portion of the Gulf's perimeter area is relatively shallow, then drops to near a mile deep. Even going out 10 miles, the depth in many places is only 45 feet deep and 70 feet deep at 20 miles out. Plus, the Gulf is pretty much a large bowl of water that sits at the Tropic of Cancer getting lots of the sun's energy daily, in addition to the inflow of warmer waters from the Caribbean Sea via The Gulf of Mexico loop current which then feeds into the the Gulf Stream current going north following the east coast.
But this is interesting. I've never seen a tropical storm develop like this in the Gulf then go east towards Florida before. Looks like the Tampa area is gonna get pounded once again.
WingsOfGold
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80 miles north of Tampa, house was built in 95, REALLY shiit construction as far as windows. (they all are) Storm windows only except lanai (120 mph windows) which was added. Garage has no windows, maybe that's the safe space? Attic structure is pleasant surprise, almost overbuilt, 4 year old roof. Old Eastern Shore 1930 vintage farmhouse was built like a rock. This one ain't. Large storm drain in front curb and one in back yard, not sure that's good or bad.
FEMA Abandons Devastated NC Town Residents — ‘Nobody’s Been Bringing in Supplies Except Civilians’ After Agency Refuses to Drive Around ‘Road Closed’ Sign
In the wake of Hurricane Helene’s wrath, residents of the tiny town of Bat Cave, North Carolina, are facing a devastating reality — they’ve been left to fend for themselves.
FEMA, the federal agency tasked with disaster relief, has all but abandoned the community, citing a “road closed” sign as the reason for their absence.
As the town continues to pick up the pieces, it’s clear that this is yet another example of Biden’s government failure, and local residents are none too pleased.
Chelsea Atkins, 38, a health researcher originally from Buffalo, NY, shared her frustration with FEMA’s incompetence in an interview with the New York Post.
“FEMA called me and told me they wanted to inspect my house, then called me back to say they couldn’t drive around the ‘road closed’ sign. They weren’t allowed,” she told The Post.
“You can drive it by car for sure, it’s not that bad, you just have to drive around the ‘road closed’ sign. I explained that to them. They said they couldn’t.”
Take note that it is the very same road The Post successfully traversed on its way to Bat Cave.
Chopticon64
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Thank you for the clear explanation
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Much of the cell infrastructure was damaged, being repaired slowly. Once again, Elon Musk steps up and gets the FCC to allow use of the DTC (Direct to Cell) service over it's Starlink satellite service for the affected areas. It's not a full production service, but will allow better communication for those stranded.
If you're not familiar with it, DTC allows an unmodified 5G phone to connect using the LEO Starlink satellites.
If you're not familiar with it, DTC allows an unmodified 5G phone to connect using the LEO Starlink satellites.
Special ops vets form ‘Redneck Air Force’ to ferry aid into NC mountains after feds come up short: ‘Who’s FEMA?’
SWANNANOA, North Carolina — Hundreds of special operations personnel in North Carolina have formed their own homegrown rescue and supply operation in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene after they grew tired of waiting for the federal government to get its act together.
The Post found an all-volunteer operation being run out of a Harley-Davidson dealership with ruthless efficiency and military precision.
“Who’s FEMA?” ex-Green Beret Adam Smith derisively responded when asked about the agency’s presence on the ground since the deadly storm ravaged the rural western part of the state.
“This disaster has definitively proven without a shadow of a doubt FEMA’s incompetence and incapability,” he said, noting that the agency didn’t even show up until Thursday — almost a week after the storm that has killed at least 232, nearly half of them in the mountainous west of the Tar Heel State.
Unwilling to stand idly by after feeling his community was languishing with inadequate support from the government, Smith enlisted the help of a few good men and women to take matters into their own hands.
This Harley-Davidson dealership has become a forward operating base, complete with a fleet of 35 helicopters that have flown hundreds of rescue, reconnaissance and resupply sorties.
Organizers are calling the effort the “Savage Freedoms Relief Operation,” but Smith says they’ve proudly adopted the alternate moniker — “the Redneck Air Force.”
The dealership teems with current and former soldiers decked out in camo pants and army boots with handguns strapped to their chests and hips. Crop duster pilots, helicopter tour guides and special operations pilots — most of them off-duty or retired military — have answered the call from Smith and others in North Carolina’s extensive military community.
They’re using their own aircraft to fly doctors, medicine, generators, fuel and food to isolated residents cut off from the world by the unprecedented floods to washed out mountain roads and wiped entire towns off the map.
Supplies and fuel for an operation of this magnitude don’t come cheap, but the group has relied entirely on donations, including around $190,000 raised through a GoFundMe page, Smith said.
And yet, Keef Olbermann wants Elon deported now.
It'd be 1000000% better to have Keith Olbermann and his comrades deported instead.
Hijinx
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That was my first response. Send Morning Joe and his squeeze with him.
Sneakers
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Probably a given for most of us, but don't make plans to view the fall leaves on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Closed from approx Rt 64 in VA south thru NC.
Bare-ya-cuda
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Biden gave a statement that was on the weather channel about hurricane milton. He turned it political and said every thing was disinformation and called trump a liar.
The televised video meeting yesterday with DHS, USCG, FEMA, NOAA, and NHC was nothing more than a Kamala campaign ad.
That Kluless Kamala totally screwd up. "It's a live Broadcast", receives a question from a staff member and then asks the NOAA person on the call.