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cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Hard questions. My policy was that when my son asked, he got honest answers, no matter how young he was. I don't think he needs to hear that his mother is a loser. I would explain that you loved him and wanted to be with him all the time. Not sure of all the circumstances but you could say something along the lines of his brother needing to stay with the mom so he could be close to his dad because that's what his dad wanted. I'm assuming that all of your were in the same area when the separation/divorce happened. Tell Boy unfortunately you moved and that made it hard to be close to his mom but you did what you though was best for him..schools, your job etc.

Explain that since two dads are involved and two different judges, decisions were made at different times and involved different circumstance.

I wouldn't go into great depth. He will probably be fine with short, to-the-point answers.

I lived through the disappointment each time when my son's father would fail him and had to answer many of the same questions. I was also abused. When my son moved out around 18, we used to go to dinner on Friday nights. We had some of our best conversations and he asked many, many questions. He was able then to understand the answers and since he was allowed to form his own opinions of his dad, he knew just what I was saying.

I'm rambling somewhat but you get the picture I hope.
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by cattitude
Hard questions. My policy was that when my son asked, he got honest answers, no matter how young he was. I don't think he needs to hear that his mother is a loser. I would explain that you loved him and wanted to be with him all the time. Not sure of all the circumstances but you could say something along the lines of his brother needing to stay with the mom so he could be close to his dad because that's what his dad wanted. I'm assuming that all of your were in the same area when the separation/divorce happened. Tell Boy unfortunately you moved and that made it hard to be close to his mom but you did what you though was best for him..schools, your job etc.

Explain that since two dads are involved and two different judges, decisions were made at different times and involved different circumstance.

I wouldn't go into great depth. He will probably be fine with short, to-the-point answers.

I lived through the disappointment each time when my son's father would fail him and had to answer many of the same questions. I was also abused. When my son moved out around 18, we used to go to dinner on Friday nights. We had some of our best conversations and he asked many, many questions. He was able then to understand the answers and since he was allowed to form his own opinions of his dad, he knew just what I was saying.

I'm rambling somewhat but you get the picture I hope.
Yup only 11 more years and he can know the real truth. :lol:
 

crabcake

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Originally posted by Pete
Yup only 11 more years and he can know the real truth. :lol:

I doubt it'll take that long ... just b/c he's of legal age doesn't mean he won't develop common sense and reasoning abilities before then. :wink:
 
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The children of today are exposed to so much more than we ever were. My oldest son and I have talked about other children's situations, since it seems that out of all of his friends he only has 1 that lives with his real mommy and daddy. It has become a stock question of his now, so do you live with your real mommy and real daddy? Were your parents married before they married each other? Questions you wouldn't think an 8 year old would ask, but they are so exposed to these situations so much. My son will even tell me why so-and-so's parents are divorced, which is something you do not expect 3rd grade children to discuss with each other.
 

crabcake

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Originally posted by IM4Change
My son will even tell me why so-and-so's parents are divorced, which is something you do not expect 3rd grade children to discuss with each other.

I think that's b/c you have some parents who will not hesitate to bad-mouth the other parent in front of the kid. They're too young to understand that some things don't need to be repeated at school. I've told the DQ from time to time that what goes on or is said in our house STAYS in our house.

She also knows that she keeps NO secrets from Mommy, no matter who tells her otherwise!
 

Christy

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I feel your pain Pete. :huggy: My ex always makes me the "fall guy". A few weeks ago I was the bad guy for going out of town for the weekend and not accomodating him being able to go to his friends birthday party AND see his Dad the same weekend. Although his dad was very aware of the birthday party, but the 90 minute drive from his place to our place was too much to do 2 days in a row :duh: sooooo, somehow it became my fault. :shrug:

The one that really got me though was when my ex was getting ready to head back home and my kid was going on about how he wanted something of great importance at Target. I told him to cool it, his dad didn't have time to be running him all over the county. Dear dad tells him "I'd have taken you, but your mother said no." :burning: That took some friggin nerve. I stepped in because he didn't have the backbone to say no, then he turns it around even more to be my fault. :cussing:

Mine is at the age where throws out how much better his dad is than me. :duh: Dad plays with him, takes him to places, does cool guy stuff, like buying him a nice sharp Rambo knife or razor sharp arrow heads he can zing around the yard :duh:, all of which I'm responsible for creating the ground rules for their usage. (hence making me yet again the bad guy). :lol: It just never ends. :twitch:
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by Christy
"I'd have taken you, but your mother said no."
:killingme THAT took balls!

I'm with ya all on the "bad guy" thing. I'm ALWAYS the bad guy on EVERYTHING!!! I HATE IT!!! But there's really nothing you can do besides #####, purge it out of your system, then keep on keepin' on. :ohwell:

Witch Girl just came back from her Dad's and MAN is it hard to listen to her go on and on about how great it is out there with her "Daddy". :rolleyes: Especially after he just called to whine about money. I'm trying hard to be generous and not get jealous over this stuff - some days I'm better at it than others.

What really burns me is that, after all the work and sacrifice I've put into these kids, there's an outside observer who's never done a damn thing for them that will take half the credit for how well they turn out.

*grrrrr*
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by vraiblonde
:killingme THAT took balls!

I'm with ya all on the "bad guy" thing. I'm ALWAYS the bad guy on EVERYTHING!!! I HATE IT!!! But there's really nothing you can do besides #####, purge it out of your system, then keep on keepin' on. :ohwell:

Witch Girl just came back from her Dad's and MAN is it hard to listen to her go on and on about how great it is out there with her "Daddy". :rolleyes: Especially after he just called to whine about money. I'm trying hard to be generous and not get jealous over this stuff - some days I'm better at it than others.

What really burns me is that, after all the work and sacrifice I've put into these kids, there's an outside observer who's never done a damn thing for them that will take half the credit for how well they turn out.

*grrrrr*
:yeahthat: I try really hard not to fall into the trap of "I bust my ass and sacrafice everyday, yet she gets equal or better billing and does NOTHING." Last night was an example, at the risk of sounding pizzy, Boy had a school project, he has to read a book aobut rainbows, then draw a rainbow, and draw 4 pictures of things that make him happy. I sat down and read the book with him, then while he was drawing I was folding laundry. He presents me his picture, the 4 things that made him happy were Chopper the wondercat, his scooter, Digimon cards and his Mom. :lol: Not only did I get beat by his mom but I got nudged out by digimon cards. :ohwell: I know he takes me for granted, I rationalized that all the other things were temporary happiness, I am steady and consistent happiness.
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Originally posted by Pete
: I know he takes me for granted, I rationalized that all the other things were temporary happiness, I am steady and consistent happiness.

Pete, you know I love ya, but now you know what a bazillion of us moms feel every day. Welcome the club, sweetie!:biggrin:
 

crabcake

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Originally posted by vraiblonde
Witch Girl just came back from her Dad's and MAN is it hard to listen to her go on and on about how great it is out there with her "Daddy". :rolleyes: Especially after he just called to whine about money.

do we have the same ex? :confused:
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by cattitude
Pete, you know I love ya, but now you know what a bazillion of us moms feel every day. Welcome the club, sweetie!:biggrin:
I am turning into a chic. Quick I need a woman to ravish. Volunteers?
 

crabcake

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Originally posted by Pete
I am turning into a chic. Quick I need a woman to ravish. Volunteers?

Dems didn't say she got a proposal on her date :shrug:





:biggrin: :duckingandrunning:
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by tatercake
do we have the same ex? :confused:
Mine doesn't whine about money. She just doesn't pay. :shrug: I really don't push the issue because she just cries poverty. Then she points to my truck, hot tub, house, clothes, camper, deck, and the many other things.

Problem is that our child support was calculated many years ago. When I finally had enough I turned her in for non payment and the state garnished her wages. She then job hopped for a long time, then got a decent job and stayed only to quit after a year and do nothing. She even went on welfare to stop enforcement at one point. Well now we have moved from Maine so Maine does not have jurisdiction anymore. She is in Delaware and I am in MD. I think I need to have my Maine divorce and child custody agreements entered as a MD judgment, then start the toothless process of interstate enforcement. A long and fruitless process. I actually have not worried about her not paying because I make plenty, but more importantly every week that goes by that she does not pay is another tick mark on her "I am a POS" tally sheet should we ever end up back in court.

Perhaps I should just say screw it and go after child support. Do you suppose she would let me slide on the $160 a week I would have to pay her if she had gotten custody? :roflmao:
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by Pete
Not only did I get beat by his mom but I got nudged out by digimon cards.
Ouch. :poorbaby:

Wouldn't it be nice if we could take comfort and be proud that we're taken for granted? Good ol' Steady Eddies that you know are always there for you, through thick and thin. I'm trying to change my mindset so that I'm raising my kids for MYSELF - not them or their other parent or anyone else. There's a lot of satisfaction in turning out a good product, whether the product appreciates it or not.
 
Originally posted by Pete
Perhaps I should just say screw it and go after child support. Do you suppose she would let me slide on the $160 a week I would have to pay her if she had gotten custody? :roflmao:
I say nail her to the wall in court and then drive a M1A1 Abrahms over it! Screw her for every penny she owes! If nothing else, you could take that money and put it in a college savings account for the boy.
 

crabcake

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Originally posted by huntr1
I say nail her to the wall in court and then drive a M1A1 Abrahms over it! Screw her for every penny she owes! If nothing else, you could take that money and put it in a college savings account for the boy.

I think (since he's financially capable) he sets a better example for Boy by being the more responsible, upstanding, father he is now. If he were hurting for cash, that'd be different. She should pay her portion, but is it worth dragging it into court, upsetting the boy, straining already-strained relations, etc. :shrug:
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by huntr1
I say nail her to the wall in court and then drive a M1A1 Abrahms over it! Screw her for every penny she owes! If nothing else, you could take that money and put it in a college savings account for the boy.
I know, I know, my old foggy mindset to be merciful to the fairer sex is what gets me. If I were struggling financially then I would be more inclined. I tend to shy away from making it an issue because I am doing well, and when I enforce support she gets much harder to deal with. She tries to guilt me with , "Oh you rich ass, new truck, nice house, camper, plenty of cash and you have to take my money and I am poor." However, her supposed lack of cash doesn't stop her form burning up QVC lines, partying and health clubs.
 

Pete

Repete
Originally posted by tatercake
I think (since he's financially capable) he sets a better example for Boy by being the more responsible, upstanding, father he is now. If he were hurting for cash, that'd be different. She should pay her portion, but is it worth dragging it into court, upsetting the boy, straining already-strained relations, etc. :shrug:
Do you let DQ babydaddy slide on support payments because you are doing well? After your wedding you and spud together will be even doing better.
 
Originally posted by tatercake
I think (since he's financially capable) he sets a better example for Boy by being the more responsible, upstanding, father he is now. If he were hurting for cash, that'd be different. She should pay her portion, but is it worth dragging it into court, upsetting the boy, straining already-strained relations, etc. :shrug:
How he is doing financially is beside the point. She has been court ordered to pay. If he doesn't "need" the money to live on, the put it towards what it is called, "Child Support". Support the boy by saving money for his college/trade school/whatever fund.
 
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