I hate "Vegans" and here is another reason why!

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2007/05/02/0502vegans.html

Vegan parents guilty in infant murder
6-week-old died of starvation after being fed diet of soy milk, apple juice

By BETH WARREN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 05/02/07

The parents of a baby that died of starvation after being fed a vegan diet have been found guilty of malice murder, felony murder and first degree cruelty to children.

Jade Sanders, 27, and Lamont Thomas, 31, will get an automatic life sentence for the death of their 6-week-old infant, Crown. After being fed a diet largely consisting of soy milk and apple juice, he weighed only 3 1/2 pounds when he died.

The Fulton County jury deliberated the case for about seven hours.

Prosecutors said it was a chilling case of murder by starvation, a painful and prolonged death. Attorneys representing Sanders and Thomas told jurors the first-time parents did the best they could while adhering to their vegan lifestyle. Vegans typically live free of animal products.

"They're not vegans, they're baby killers," Fulton prosecutor Mike Carlson told the jury Tuesday during his closing arguments.

The couple's attorneys said they didn't realize their baby, born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died.
 

vraiblonde

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You would think a vegan would breastfeed - or is that considered an animal product, too?

Anyway, they must have been underfeeding the child because all a 6 week old eats is milk/formula anyway, so the soy milk shouldn't have been a problem. I'm skeptical of this story.
 

BlackSheep

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vraiblonde said:
You would think a vegan would breastfeed - or is that considered an animal product, too?

Anyway, they must have been underfeeding the child because all a 6 week old eats is milk/formula anyway, so the soy milk shouldn't have been a problem. I'm skeptical of this story.
Right on Vrai!
Most of the soy milk products clearly state-" NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR BABY FORMULA"
 

Larry Gude

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This is all...

BlackSheep said:
It took the "parents" 6 wks. to realize this?
Another example of why stupid people shouldn't breed-an automatic life sentence isn't good enough!

...a load of crap. Life sentence for starving their 6 week old to death? That's madness. If these people are productive members of society and all they've done is starve their child to death, why is this ANY of societies business, let alone worthy of putting them in jail?

They could have gotten a legal abortion at any time from 6 weeks and a day sooner.

We live in a culture of death. You can't, you can NOT tell people it's a simple matter of choice to have an abortion and then, suddenly, the day the child is born, change all the rules; NOW you have to be responsible. NOW you have to be a loving parent. NOW you have to do what society says is best for that child even though society says you could have killed it yesterday. Or a month ago. Or three. It's like having a 25 mph zone on the interstate 100 feet after a 70 mph; we're gonna have crashes.

Jail?
 

vraiblonde

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rack'm said:
Soy is not the health food that you think it is.
But they have soy formula for babies who are lactose intolerant, so why wouldn't the dumb parents have just fed the baby that? And apple juice is too much for a baby that young.

I agree with JenBen - this has nothing to do with the vegan lifestyle and more to do with stupid parents.
 

rack'm

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vraiblonde said:
But they have soy formula for babies who are lactose intolerant, so why wouldn't the dumb parents have just fed the baby that? And apple juice is too much for a baby that young.

I agree with JenBen - this has nothing to do with the vegan lifestyle and more to do with stupid parents.


Agreed, you can't fix stupid. :ohwell:


But, the chemical in Soy is still an issue. A lady I work with can't eat Soy products because it messes with the Thyroid meds she's on.
 

Fubar

Look my ass glows!
Larry Gude said:
...a load of crap. Life sentence for starving their 6 week old to death? That's madness. If these people are productive members of society and all they've done is starve their child to death, why is this ANY of societies business, let alone worthy of putting them in jail?

They could have gotten a legal abortion at any time from 6 weeks and a day sooner.

We live in a culture of death. You can't, you can NOT tell people it's a simple matter of choice to have an abortion and then, suddenly, the day the child is born, change all the rules; NOW you have to be responsible. NOW you have to be a loving parent. NOW you have to do what society says is best for that child even though society says you could have killed it yesterday. Or a month ago. Or three. It's like having a 25 mph zone on the interstate 100 feet after a 70 mph; we're gonna have crashes.

Jail?
If that was your grandchild would a life sentence be good enough? :eyebrow:
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
vraiblonde said:
I agree with JenBen - this has nothing to do with the vegan lifestyle and more to do with stupid parents.

True, but it seems that these "militant vegans" can't be told anything sensible when it comes to these matters.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
It is my firm...

Fubar said:
If that was your grandchild would a life sentence be good enough? :eyebrow:


..hope that any of my kids would have the child and love it and care for it. They, we, live in a society that tells them abortion is OK but they know I think abortion is murder and Vrail has told them anyone who wants to have an abortion should probably have it; they'd likely make bad parents if that is how they view their unborn, as a choice.

If it happened to me anyway, I'd be heartbroke and sick about it. If those two who did this were my kid and in law I don't know how I'd ever be able to be civil to them again. I don't know how I'd ever reconcile that I was so poor of a parent that I sent a child off into the world that freaking stupid. This is why parents stay up late worrying; it could happen.

I mean, maybe besides this incident, these two are worthless and criminally idiotic any way and maybe jail is best. Having said that, if they are simply such stupid freaks, but otherwise law abiding, I can't send them to jail for this.
 

closetrebel

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vraiblonde said:
You would think a vegan would breastfeed - or is that considered an animal product, too?

Anyway, they must have been underfeeding the child because all a 6 week old eats is milk/formula anyway, so the soy milk shouldn't have been a problem. I'm skeptical of this story.



vrai, i immediately thought the same as you...
 

Fubar

Look my ass glows!
The parents were found guilty of cruelty to children and felony murder which calls for a mandatory life prison sentence.
This has nothing to do with the fact they where vegan.
First of all, the kid was born in a bathtub.
Secondly there is a hospital ACROSS the street from their apartment.
Third - breast milk is "ok" with most every vegan.
Fourth - they didn't take him to the hospital till AFTER the baby was dead.
Fifth - there are PLENTY of vegan diets that are healthy for babies.
Sixth - they weren't "vegan", until they needed a defense to get out of killing their baby.

Don't blame this on vegans, blame this on really bad parents.
:yay:
 

Geek

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"We're against animal cruelty. So why would I be cruel to my son? We're against animals being burdened. Why would be cruel and burden him and try to drive around and do something with his body? We're going to jail for no reason," said Thomas (the Dad)
 
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