I hate "Vegans" and here is another reason why!

[Fubar]

...these folks killed that child, neglect or intentionally, either way. As for punishment, how do you rationalize sending someone to jail for killing when it was just fine 6 weeks earlier? It's their child.

Society doesn't like messy questions. Well, that doesn't mean the questions just go away if you ignore them or give them arbitrary answers.

Who said the baby was "just fine" 6 weeks earlier? The parents??? Please! The poor baby never saw a doctor and when the baby was seen, the doctors could count EVERY bone in the infants body! That just didn't happen in a day or two...come'on Larry you're being too civilized!

 

[Larry Gude]

Right...

Who said the baby was "just fine" 6 weeks earlier? The parents??? Please! The poor baby never saw a doctor and when the baby was seen, the doctors could count EVERY bone in the infants body! That just didn't happen in a day or two...come'on Larry you're being too civilized!

...I certainly shouldn't say 'just fine' as I'm pretty sure this infants life was misery.

Is there a distinction to be made from abortion to what these parents did? If there is, what's the difference? I would never propose jailing someone for choosing an abortion and I wouldn't outlaw it. You just can't legislate that kind of morality. "You can't abort thus you must love and nurture your child." How do you do that?

For all I know these people are freaking monsters and not simply stupid. Maybe they belong in jail forever. I just don't see it.

 

[Larry Gude]

Oops...

Who said the baby was "just fine" 6 weeks earlier? The parents??? Please! The poor baby never saw a doctor and when the baby was seen, the doctors could count EVERY bone in the infants body! That just didn't happen in a day or two...come'on Larry you're being too civilized!

...re-read my own post. What I meant was it was just fine to abort it six weeks earlier, meaning legal. Again, I'm sure the infant was NOT just fine.

 

[Toxick]

The parents of a baby that died of starvation after being fed a vegan diet have been found guilty of malice murder, felony murder and first degree cruelty to children.

I just stumbled onto this thread - so I'm sure that someone has already said all this, but I'll throw in my $0.02 anyway ... The fact that they're vegans didn't kill the child - the fact that they're COMPLETELY EFFING STUPID is what killed it. It wasn't malice - it was ignorance.

Now, I have nothing against the vegan lifestyle. If some unwashed, unshaven hippy freak wants to avoid using animal products at all costs, that's fine by me. Honestly, I think the story focuses too much on the fact that they are vegans, and not enough on the fact that they are mindblowing idiots.

Never attribute to malice what could easily be attributed to stupidity.

Here's a question: Why didn't mom breast feed the kid? Even if mom lives on carrots and granola and wears everything made of 100% cotton her boob-juice should have sustained the kid. Seems to me the perfect way to force your lifestyle on a poor unsuspecting baby.


Does human milk qualify as an animal product...?

The couple's attorneys said they didn't realize their baby, born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died.

Didn't the fact that a 6 week old infant was only 3 1/2 pounds tip them off? If a newborn LOSES weight - even a few ounces, something is very wrong.

That should be patently obvious to even the most casual observer.

 

[Geek]

I just stumbled onto this thread - so I'm sure that someone has already said all this, but I'll throw in my $0.02 anyway ... The fact that they're vegans didn't kill the child - the fact that they're COMPLETELY EFFING STUPID is what killed it. It wasn't malice - it was ignorance.

Now, I have nothing against the vegan lifestyle. If some unwashed, unshaven hippy freak wants to avoid using animal products at all costs, that's fine by me. Honestly, I think the story focuses too much on the fact that they are vegans, and not enough on the fact that they are mindblowing idiots.

Never attribute to malice what could easily be attributed to stupidity.

Here's a question: Why didn't mom breast feed the kid? Even if mom lives on carrots and granola and wears everything made of 100% cotton her boob-juice should have sustained the kid. Seems to me the perfect way to force your lifestyle on a poor unsuspecting baby.


Does human milk qualify as an animal product...?





Didn't the fact that a 6 week old infant was only 3 1/2 pounds tip them off? If a newborn LOSES weight - even a few ounces, something is very wrong.

That should be patently obvious to even the most casual observer.

I wonder what would happen if being Vegan was considered religious choice?

 

[Geek]

An interesting quote from the script of he show "House"

"Dr. House: She has gone from the 25th weight percentile to the 3rd in one month. Now I'm not a baby expert, but I'm pretty sure they're not supposed to shrink.
Rachel Kaplan: Well there's this diet we put her on when she stopped breast feeding...
Andrew Kaplan: But it's healthy, um, raw food. We're vegans. Almond milk, tofu, uh, vegetables...
Dr. House: Raw food... If only her ancestors had mastered the secret of fire. Babies need fat, proteins, calories. Less important: sprouts and hemp. Starving babies is bad and illegal in many cultures. I'm having her admitted."

 

[Toxick]

An interesting quote from the script of he show "House"

"Dr. House: She has gone from the 25th weight percentile to the 3rd in one month. Now I'm not a baby expert, but I'm pretty sure they're not supposed to shrink.
Rachel Kaplan: Well there's this diet we put her on when she stopped breast feeding...
Andrew Kaplan: But it's healthy, um, raw food. We're vegans. Almond milk, tofu, uh, vegetables...
Dr. House: Raw food... If only her ancestors had mastered the secret of fire. Babies need fat, proteins, calories. Less important: sprouts and hemp. Starving babies is bad and illegal in many cultures. I'm having her admitted."

House is my hero.

 

[Inkpen]

I think the Judge could not find a law that covered STUPID!!
What about the grandmothers..both in court.
Were they totally STUPID and clueless about the welfare of their grandson?
Heck....they lived across the street from a hospital, yet never went for fear of GERMS?


Wonder if jail serves vegan? Gonna be a LONG time in prison...
That poor baby...6 weeks and only 3.5 pounds.
A kitten weighs that much at 3 months!!!
Most new borns weigh 5-8 pounds..
What a shame, a sad, sorry shame.....

 

[Geek]

House is my hero.

Stuart little's dad rocks

 

[Not4you]

It took the "parents" 6 wks. to realize this?
Another example of why stupid people shouldn't breed-an automatic life sentence isn't good enough!

 

[Not4you]

An interesting quote from the script of he show "House"

"Dr. House: She has gone from the 25th weight percentile to the 3rd in one month. Now I'm not a baby expert, but I'm pretty sure they're not supposed to shrink.
Rachel Kaplan: Well there's this diet we put her on when she stopped breast feeding...
Andrew Kaplan: But it's healthy, um, raw food. We're vegans. Almond milk, tofu, uh, vegetables...
Dr. House: Raw food... If only her ancestors had mastered the secret of fire. Babies need fat, proteins, calories. Less important: sprouts and hemp. Starving babies is bad and illegal in many cultures. I'm having her admitted."

 

[MMDad]

...Is there a distinction to be made from abortion to what these parents did? If there is, what's the difference?

Our society has decided there is a line, and the law clearly defines it. You may disagree with where the line is drawn, but that doesn't change the fact that what these two did was murder and they deserve far harsher punishment than they will receive.

 

[kwillia]

Vegan couple sentenced to life over baby's death

Defense lawyers said the first-time parents did the best they could while adhering to the lifestyle of vegans, who typically use no animal products. They said Sanders and Thomas did not realize the baby, who was born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died.

But prosecutors said the couple intentionally neglected their child and refused to take him to the doctor even as the baby’s body wasted away.

“No matter how many times they want to say, ‘We’re vegans, we’re vegetarians,’ that’s not the issue in this case,” said prosecutor Chuck Boring. “The child died because he was not fed. Period.”

 

[jazz lady]

Vegan couple sentenced to life over baby's death

Defense lawyers said the first-time parents did the best they could while adhering to the lifestyle of vegans, who typically use no animal products. They said Sanders and Thomas did not realize the baby, who was born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died.

At 3.5 pounds, that child was a skeleton and any idiot with a grain of common sense would know it was going to die.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Vegan couple sentenced to life over baby's death

Defense lawyers said the first-time parents did the best they could while adhering to the lifestyle of vegans, who typically use no animal products. They said Sanders and Thomas did not realize the baby, who was born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died.

But prosecutors said the couple intentionally neglected their child and refused to take him to the doctor even as the baby’s body wasted away.

“No matter how many times they want to say, ‘We’re vegans, we’re vegetarians,’ that’s not the issue in this case,” said prosecutor Chuck Boring. “The child died because he was not fed. Period.”

I watched a short video on CNN about this today and the man complained about the jail food (I guess because it doesn't fit his lifestyle). "I'm dying everyday in there" he said.

 

[Larry Gude]

I can't argue...

Our society has decided there is a line, and the law clearly defines it. You may disagree with where the line is drawn, but that doesn't change the fact that what these two did was murder and they deserve far harsher punishment than they will receive.

...with you there.

Where I do argue is that is it a fact that abortion is murder as well. It just is. So, to get all worked up over a couple of morons starving their kid to death isn't something that comes readily to me either reflexively or intellectually given I have been told, in no uncertain, terms since I was a kid that it is a woman's RIGHT to choose whether or not to have her unborn gotten rid of.

A mom starves her kid to death = life in jail

1,00,000 abortions this year = not even a ticket.

I guess Stalin had a point; Seems a death is a tragedy. A million is merely a statistic.

 

[kwillia]

...with you there.

Where I do argue is that is it a fact that abortion is murder as well. It just is. So, to get all worked up over a couple of morons starving their kid to death isn't something that comes readily to me either reflexively or intellectually given I have been told, in no uncertain, terms since I was a kid that it is a woman's RIGHT to choose whether or not to have her unborn gotten rid of.

A mom starves her kid to death = life in jail

1,00,000 abortions this year = not even a ticket.

I guess Stalin had a point; Seems a death is a tragedy. A million is merely a statistic.

I understand the point that you are trying to make, however, I disagree with you using this case as a political stance against abortion. They starved their child to death and the abortion argument does not forgive this.

 

[SoMDMama82]

I watched a short video on CNN about this today and the man complained about the jail food (I guess because it doesn't fit his lifestyle). "I'm dying everyday in there" he said.

Well....maybe they won't realize the couple is in "danger of dying" until they are 70 lbs each, and it's too late for them?? :shrug:

 

[vraiblonde]

"I'm dying everyday in there" he said.

That took some real nads to say that for the camera.

Some people just don't get it.

 

[Toxick]

"I'm dying everyday in there" he said.

That is so Like rain on your wedding day.


If his baby had had the words to speak, I'm sure he would have said something very similar.