I hate "Vegans" and here is another reason why!

[Larry Gude]

Ok...

The fact that they had 6 weeks to prevent the problem or correct it once they knew there was a problem makes this even worse. They could see their child becoming a living skeleton, but did NOTHING to correct it. That right there is pathetic.

I agree. I think they're mentally ill to be able to do that.

I don't agree with people refusing to vaccinate children either...but neglecting to feed children properly can't be compared to refusing to vaccinate. And it's total BS that they claim they fed that diet because they were vegan. There were other options out there.

I agree, but, it was pretty easy to find this nearly exact same case happening before with vegans.

So what's the problem? They killed their baby. What if the kid was 5 years old and they starved it to death? Would you feel differently then?

Wanna tell me how I feel now? All of you are jumping up and down that I somehow support this. All I've said is that I don't see this as being a life in prison offense. They KILLED this kid, 5 weeks or 5 years.

Fetus, baby. What a difference a day makes, huh?

Given what we've been told about this, don't you think this woman is in agony over this? Certainly not happy.

 

[Larry Gude]

Exactly...

Recap of Larry's feeling's as they pertain to the issue:

Yes, they killed their child.
No, they don't deserve life behind bars.

Fair enough, Larry? :shrug: I would suggest that comparing serial killers to this infant-starving couple might better prove your agenda. IMHO. All victims had opportunity to breathe O2.

Why serial killers? Is that honestly how y'all see them?

 

[Cowgirl]

Wanna tell me how I feel now?

:shrug: You've already explained that you don't think they deserve life in jail...because the baby was only 6 weeks old and since it's ok to murder your kid 1 day before it's born, it's not that big of a deal to kill your 6 week old baby. :shrug: That's what I've gathered.

All of you are jumping up and down that I somehow support this. All I've said is that I don't see this as being a life in prison offense. They KILLED this kid, 5 weeks or 5 years.

I'm just surprised you don't seem to think they deserve a life sentence...they killed their child.

Given what we've been told about this, don't you think this woman is in agony over this? Certainly not happy.

I most certainly do not think the mother is in agony over it....maybe she's upset about her jail sentence...but not the death of her baby. If she truly cared about that baby she wouldn't have let it starve to death.

 

[Larry Gude]

Ok...

:shrug: You've already explained that you don't think they deserve life in jail...because the baby was only 6 weeks old and since it's ok to murder your kid 1 day before it's born, it's not that big of a deal to kill your 6 week old baby. :shrug: That's what I've gathered.



I'm just surprised you don't seem to think they deserve a life sentence...they killed their child.



I most certainly do not think the mother is in agony over it....maybe she's upset about her jail sentence...but not the death of her baby. If she truly cared about that baby she wouldn't have let it starve to death.

...they killed their child yes. BUT they did not chop it's head off, did not throw it in the river. They have a lifestyle that they choose to lead that lead to the death of their child. It is not the same, to me, as cold blooded murder in the same way that backing over your kid in the driveway is not cold blooded, but it is neglect. It's also not the same as what Andrea Yates did.

Y'all see this is crystal clear eyes; murder; life sentence. I keep repeating myself, offering up mitigating facts, anecdotal evidence, the fact that people choose to kill their unborn by the millions but again, born = baby = murder, unborn = not baby = not murder is crystal clear to y'all.

That you are so sure this woman cares not a wit about this may well be what the jury saw. I can allow for that.

 

[Qurious]

i hope they starve to death in jail...get their food poisoned....

or matta fact...just get killed period in prison.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

i hope they starve to death in jail...get their food poisoned....

or matta fact...just get killed period in prison.

Oh my heavens, look who's back!

It's a shame you hope somebody dies. They neglected their child and deserve 30 years to life. I agree with Larry, somewhat. I haven't read all the posts on here - but if they knew what they were doing was killing their child, than they should be sentenced to life or death. If not, than you can't really kill someone for supidity/ignorance.

 

[Cowgirl]

...they killed their child yes. BUT they did not chop it's head off, did not throw it in the river. They have a lifestyle that they choose to lead that lead to the death of their child.

So, as long as they killed their child "nicely" it's ok. Having a certain lifestyle does not mean it's ok to starve your child. Forget the stupid abortion argument. We are talking about a LIVING child.

 

[Qurious]

Oh my heavens, look who's back!

when u taking me to dinner?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

when u taking me to dinner?

 

[Qurious]

if any parent leads a lifestyle that risks their childs life indirectly they dont deserve the child or life itself.

i didnt read the whole article but what happened to the babys 6 week checkup after they are born? doctors? friends? family? no one noticed this baby was starving?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

So, as long as they killed their child "nicely" it's ok. Having a certain lifestyle does not mean it's ok to starve your child. Forget the stupid abortion argument. We are talking about a LIVING child.

There was no intent or plans. It's manslaughter (unless a doctor/physician had told them they were killing their kid).

 

[Larry Gude]

No...

So, as long as they killed their child "nicely" it's ok. Having a certain lifestyle does not mean it's ok to starve your child. Forget the stupid abortion argument. We are talking about a LIVING child.

...we're not; we're talking about a dead one and how it got that way. You see this, I think, as the same as cold blooded murder. I don't. I see this as neglect and stupidity.

Do you know the average time served in this country for homicide is about 7 years? I'd like to see violent murderers get the death penalty. I'd like to see kooks like this sterilized. I don't wanna pay to have their dumb asses in jail for life.

And you go ahead and dismiss abortion all you like. Why do you think we value things so little in this culture? Because it's all disposable, including an unborn infant. That affects peoples minds, in my opinion. It affects how they view themselves and the world around them and not in a good way.

We can let it go now; you're in favor of life in jail for them. I'm not.

 

[Cowgirl]

...we're not; we're talking about a dead one and how it got that way. You see this, I think, as the same as cold blooded murder. I don't. I see this as neglect and stupidity.

Do you know the average time served in this country for homicide is about 7 years? I'd like to see violent murderers get the death penalty. I'd like to see kooks like this sterilized. I don't wanna pay to have their dumb asses in jail for life.

And you go ahead and dismiss abortion all you like. Why do you think we value things so little in this culture? Because it's all disposable, including an unborn infant. That affects peoples minds, in my opinion. It affects how they view themselves and the world around them and not in a good way.

We can let it go now; you're in favor of life in jail for them. I'm not.

Yes, we can let it go...after I say this. I am not dismissing abortion....you are trying to turn this into an argument about how you think abortion is murder. This discussion is about how the couple killed their baby. This was not a little accident....it wasn't an "oops, I put my 2 year old on a 4 wheeler and it fell over on him" kind of accident. This was a sloooooow death....that poor baby suffered for SIX WEEKS. Those 'parents' were too STUPID and HEARTLESS. If you slowly starve your child to death, you deserve to go to jail for life. This was not an accident. Accidents don't happen slowly over a 6 week period. They neglected their child, and the child died because of it.

 

[Larry Gude]

No I am not...

Yes, we can let it go...after I say this. I am not dismissing abortion....you are trying to turn this into an argument about how you think abortion is murder. This discussion is about how the couple killed their baby. This was not a little accident....it wasn't an "oops, I put my 2 year old on a 4 wheeler and it fell over on him" kind of accident. This was a sloooooow death....that poor baby suffered for SIX WEEKS. Those 'parents' were too STUPID and HEARTLESS. If you slowly starve your child to death, you deserve to go to jail for life. This was not an accident. Accidents don't happen slowly over a 6 week period. They neglected their child, and the child died because of it.

...but, it is; a human life is taken, intentionally.

What I am trying to do, to little avail, is look at it in context of who they are, what they did and why. I am not trying to say it was an accident; it was not. They did it on purpose. The question is what is 'it' and what was their purpose?; cold blooded murder? Neglect? Adherence to their beliefs that didn't work out so good for their child? Indifference? Mental illness?

Life in prison is supposed to be reserved for those who intentionally take the life of another. That is what abortion is and we've chosen to tolerate it as a societal matter. That is who we are and what we accept and it does matter. It does influence thinking. It is the textbook case and basis for moral relativity in our world. If they'd had an abortion 6 weeks and 1 day earlier, suddenly, it's OK. It's the law but it is not rational.

If you believe they meant to kill, so be it. Seems the jury did as well. I see ignorance, stupidity and severe neglect, maybe even mental illness.


PS: No matter what you say next, I'll let you have the last word.

 

[Cowgirl]

PS: No matter what you say next, I'll let you have the last word.

Larry wears girl panties and prances around the house.

 

[Larry Gude]

Muffppphhhmmmuupph....

Larry wears girl panties and prances around the house.

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