I hate "Vegans" and here is another reason why!

[AK-74me]

Don't blame this on vegans, blame this on really bad parents.

But it is fun to blame people who try to feel better about themselves by not eating any animals so that bambi can live longer. Besides most of them are hippies to boot.

 

[vraiblonde]

...but life in jail?

Frankly, I wish they'd lock up all stupid people. So, yeah, put me in the "lock 'em up and throw away the key" category. Even better would be to just euthanize them.

 

[Fubar]

Frankly, I wish they'd lock up all stupid people. So, yeah, put me in the "lock 'em up and throw away the key" category. Even better would be to just euthanize them.

 

[jwwb2000]

I say they get the same food as they gave the baby while they are in prison. Let them both die as their baby did.

 

[Larry Gude]

Ah yes...

Frankly, I wish they'd lock up all stupid people. So, yeah, put me in the "lock 'em up and throw away the key" category. Even better would be to just euthanize them.

...the Final Solution solution.

I say we export them to Iran and North Korea.

 

[vraiblonde]

...the Final Solution solution.

So, by that little Hitler barb, can I assume that you no longer support the death penalty?

 

[Larry Gude]

How about you...

So, by that little Hitler barb, can I assume that you no longer support the death penalty?

So, yeah, put me in the "lock 'em up and throw away the key" category. Even better would be to just euthanize them.

...speak for yourself?

Do we have enough jail cells for 'all the stupid' people?

Doesn't 'euthanize' mean kill?

I am ALL for the death penalty for violent criminals. I would kill Chuckie Manson and his pal Tookie. I would kill Tim McVeigh. I would kill the loon who shot Reagan whose stupid name escapes me just now. Dahlmer? Dead.

I am not for putting down tree huggers who starve their child to death, especially if they can be put to good use in the gerber mines. Maybe sterilize. Not euthanize.

 

[vraiblonde]

I am not for putting down tree huggers who starve their child to death,

I am. I think that if you willfully cause the death of someone else, you should be (as Ron White says) killed back.

 

[Larry Gude]

Does that...

I am. I think that if you willfully cause the death of someone else, you should be (as Ron White says) killed back.

...start at 6 weeks after being born? 6 weeks before? Are abortionists willfully causing the death of someone else? The woman?

I'd like to think there is something else wrong with these two people, that they are POS's in general and add nothing to society anyway. Who knows? Maybe he is some Manson type mind controller and she was forced into this?

It would seem readily evident that they just ain't right if they just watched this child starve to death, but I need something more because, to me, if they could kill it legally 6 weeks ago, why not now?

 

[SoMDMama82]

But they have soy formula for babies who are lactose intolerant, so why wouldn't the dumb parents have just fed the baby that? And apple juice is too much for a baby that young.

I agree with JenBen - this has nothing to do with the vegan lifestyle and more to do with stupid parents.

I'm not vegan, but my 5 mo. daughter is pretty much on a vegan diet: Soy Formula (can't do milk products), fruit baby food, and rice cereal. She's a chubby, happy little 15 pounder. Definately isn't starving. I think it's definately just stupid parents!

 

[jenbengen]

True, but it seems that these "militant vegans" can't be told anything sensible when it comes to these matters.

I'd be shocked if I could find a real vegan who didn't believe in breastmilk. It's all crap. They came up with what they thought was a great excuse and they are running with it. It's pathetic.

 

[BuddyLee]

Frankly, I wish they'd lock up all stupid people. So, yeah, put me in the "lock 'em up and throw away the key" category. Even better would be to just euthanize them.

Problem with that is that you must have a clear definition of 'stupid'. Obviously this was stupid and other notable examples exhibit stupidity. However, who makes this definition (besides yourself, even if you were able to wield such power) and could it be interpreted in the future to include people who aren't seen as stupid today? We'd have a stupid witch hunt that would soon reach out of control proportions. That would be stupid and society as a whole would have to be euthanized.

You would think a vegan would breastfeed - or is that considered an animal product, too?

Depends on their interpretation but technically we're animals too.

 

[vraiblonde]

Problem with that is that you must have a clear definition of 'stupid'. Obviously this was stupid and other notable examples exhibit stupidity. However, who makes this definition (besides yourself, even if you were able to wield such power) and could it be interpreted in the future to include people who aren't seen as stupid today? We'd have a stupid witch hunt that would soon reach out of control proportions. That would be stupid and society as a whole would have to be euthanized.

Maybe it could be like American Idol, where you get a bunch of stupids together, let 'em go for the cameras, then each week there's a vote by the public as to who gets the chair. Kind of like Survivor, with a twist.

 

[Larry Gude]

And we could get...

Maybe it could be like American Idol, where you get a bunch of stupids together, let 'em go for the cameras, then each week there's a vote by the public as to who gets the chair. Kind of like Survivor, with a twist.

...Richard Dawson to host and have a home edition game and...

 

[spicy]

This reminds me of the futurama episode where aliens are trying to eat Leela and they switch her for an ape..Then this hippy treehugger runs in and says its not really her, its an ape because he's trying to save the ape. Ahh. I love that show.

 

[BuddyLee]

Maybe it could be like American Idol, where you get a bunch of stupids together, let 'em go for the cameras, then each week there's a vote by the public as to who gets the chair. Kind of like Survivor, with a twist.

Now that's entertainment!

 

[Roughidle]

...we, live in a society that tells them abortion is OK but they know I think abortion is murder...
Having said that, if they are simply such stupid freaks, but otherwise law abiding, I can't send them to jail for this.

Do I understand you correctly, that you see abortion as murder but not starving your child to death as the same?

 

[Larry Gude]

What I am...

Do I understand you correctly, that you see abortion as murder but not starving your child to death as the same?

...trying to emphasize is that if you tell people they can do something and describe it as perfectly legal, a celebrated right no less, but only up to a certain point, then it is difficult for me to see a moral reason to forbid what amounts to the same thing, or even less so if they had no intent to starve the child, condemn them and send them off to jail.

There is death in abortion. It is legal. You do not go to jail for it.
This child starved to death. I have no idea if they meant to kill it, which, if they did, can't possibly be argued as any different than aborting it a mere six weeks earlier and, if they didn't mean to, it is certainly not as bad as an abortion.

Re-reading your post, I'm not sure I understood clearly, so, if you could clarify a bit or did I answer your question?

 

[Roughidle]

...There is death in abortion. It is legal. You do not go to jail for it. This child starved to death. I have no idea if they meant to kill it, which, if they did, can't possibly be argued as any different than aborting it a mere six weeks earlier and, if they didn't mean to, it is certainly not as bad as an abortion.

I'm guessing you agree, neglect has been commited here. However, unless criminal intent is proven, that the punishment is not warranted?

 

[Larry Gude]

Absolutely...

I'm guessing you agree, neglect has been commited here. However, unless criminal intent is proven, that the punishment is not warranted?

...these folks killed that child, neglect or intentionally, either way. As for punishment, how do you rationalize sending someone to jail for killing when it was just fine 6 weeks earlier? It's their child.

Society doesn't like messy questions. Well, that doesn't mean the questions just go away if you ignore them or give them arbitrary answers.