I'm wondering...

[mAlice]

When you are searching for God, you have to consider all alternatives.

Depends on who you ask. It was the "alternatives" that convinced me that there is no god.

 

[mAlice]

elaine and others, keep seeking.

I did. I'm not going to waste any more of my life on something that isn't there. Still, none of you can tell me why you were enlightened and I wasn't. Why would I think it's anything other than ?

 

[2ndAmendment]

No. I've since learned too many things that would make it impossible to ever believe in a god again.

I pray that is not the case. Keep knocking. Keep seeking. He will reveal Himself.

 

[Dondi]

No. I've since learned too many things that would make it impossible to ever believe in a god again.

Impossible? The only impossibility is if you give up on God. Naturally, you won't find God if you aren't looking for Him. What is it you learned that brought you to this position?

 

[2ndAmendment]

I did. I'm not going to waste any more of my life on something that isn't there. Still, none of you can tell me why you were enlightened and I wasn't. Why would I think it's anything other than ?

Timing?

 

[dems4me]

Depends on who you ask. It was the "alternatives" that convinced me that there is no god.

Hang in there Elaine... your heart is open or you wouldn't still be this far into the thread... that just leaves trust and fear in the way. The Lord knows you are afraid of getting hurt and knows that when you come back to him, it'll be a lot of trust on your part. The Lord knows your heart better than you do. Hang in there.

 

[mAlice]

Impossible? The only impossibility is if you give up on God. Naturally, you won't find God if you aren't looking for Him. What is it you learned that brought you to this position?

If I give up on god? Have you read anything I've posted, or are you just repeating what you're used to hearing?

I'm not interested in rehashing things I've been posting of the forums for years, so you'll just have to take my word for it. It shouldn't matter to you anyway, unless you want to be convinced there is no god.

 

[dems4me]

I did. I'm not going to waste any more of my life on something that isn't there. Still, none of you can tell me why you were enlightened and I wasn't. Why would I think it's anything other than ?

I answered it the best I could...:shrug: If you didn't feel a connectino all those years walking with the Lord, why did you keep doing it? was it a gradual falling out, an event(s), or just one day you said, that's it, I'm done with God??

 

[mAlice]

Hang in there Elaine... your heart is open or you wouldn't still be this far into the thread... that just leaves trust and fear in the way. The Lord knows you are afraid of getting hurt and knows that when you come back to him, it'll be a lot of trust on your part. The Lord knows your heart better than you do. Hang in there.

You just don't get it, do you?

 

[mAlice]

Timing?

C'mon 2A. You can do better than that.

 

[mAlice]

I answered it the best I could...:shrug: If you didn't feel a connectino all those years walking with the Lord, why did you keep doing it? was it a gradual falling out, an event(s), or just one day you said, that's it, I'm done with God??

It was gradual, and I kept doing it because it's what I believed.

 

[dems4me]

It was gradual, and I kept doing it because it's what I believed.

Well sometimes we have to do things unconditionally or without expectation. It seems that you expected that if you went to church several times a week and Bible study, etc... maybe you wanted something in return that wasn't a part of God's plan at the time.:shrug: Maybe its a test like in the book of Job... :shrug:

 

[Tonio]

We have been around this before.

I know. I maintain that it makes no sense that a "loving, forgiving God" would "destroy both body and soul in Hell." It makes no sense that a loving God would "punish Israel" because He felt rejected. That doesn't sound like God, that sounds like Stanley Kowalski.

 

[mAlice]

Well sometimes we have to do things unconditionally or without expectation. It seems that you expected that if you went to church several times a week and Bible study, etc... maybe you wanted something in return that wasn't a part of God's plan at the time.:shrug: Maybe its a test like in the book of Job... :shrug:

The reason behind me doing all of that was so I could spread the word. That's what I wanted in return.

 

[2ndAmendment]

C'mon 2A. You can do better than that.

Won't argue or debate. Not the way to present the word of salvation. Tried it. Prayed about it. Know debate and argument is the wrong way.

You are who you are; the sum of your experiences. I do not know you well enough or long enough to know when and how you lost your faith or even if you had true faith to begin with. I do agree with dems that if you were not actually seeking even unconsciously you would not bother to post or ask questions in this forum at all.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I know. I maintain that it makes no sense that a "loving, forgiving God" would "destroy both body and soul in Hell." It makes no sense that a loving God would "punish Israel" because He felt rejected. That doesn't sound like God, that sounds like Stanley Kowalski.

I maintain that I believe the Bible instead of you.

 

[mAlice]

I do agree with dems that if you were not actually seeking even unconsciously you would not bother to post or ask questions in this forum at all.

Then I thank you both for telling me what I'm thinking.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Then I thank you both for telling me what I'm thinking.

You are welcome.

 

[Tonio]

I maintain that I believe the Bible instead of you.

I don't expect you or anyone else to believe what I believe. I'm not out to win converts. I'm just stating my emotional experience of most Christian doctrine.

 

[Dondi]

If I give up on god? Have you read anything I've posted, or are you just repeating what you're used to hearing?

I'm not interested in rehashing things I've been posting of the forums for years, so you'll just have to take my word for it. It shouldn't matter to you anyway, unless you want to be convinced there is no god.

I haven't been on this board for that very long, so I don't know your situation, so I will take your word for it. I don't think you can convince me that there is no God. But it does matter to me. You matter to me. Anyone who has a hard time with getting to know God matters to me. I spent years not knowing. I've probably been where you are in that regard.