Is all of this even legal??

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Isn't that a bit like Russian roulette? How do you know the clerk doesn't have it? Or the stockboy? Or the person who was previously handling what you just picked up, purchased, and brought home with you?

It's migitating your chances, taking precautions. That's part of what we're being asked to do.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
I don't think you are intentionally self-absorbed. I do think people are focused inward and not seeing the big picture and how it's affecting others.

I just read a report that said over 4 million new unemployment filings in March. That's 4 million people out of a job, trying to live on unemployment, which is a pittance, with nobody hiring and no way of knowing when this might end. The official report should be out in a day or so.

I'll tell you straight up - I'm fine. I'm not going to get sick (because pretty much nobody does), and my finances are straight. I'm jacked up if all the RV parks close down, but I have a plan for that, too.

I do, however, see how this is devastating millions of others and it pisses me off to no end.

I am also pissed off. I planned for emergencies, and I will be fine financially at least in the short term of 6 months or so. However, I see the livlihood of my bosses in serious jeopardy if this goes long term. I know they're worried. I have mad skilz and can go get a job later, but I understand all the liberties, rights and freedoms that are being taken away.

I just don't know what I can do about it. All jokes aside, I would stand up and fight if I needed to. However, all my advocacy experience aside, I am not leading a revolution alone.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
To add insult to injury, state labor offices are overwhelmed with new applicants and the crashing of the websites. I have read that some states are experiencing wait times for benefits of up to 4-6 weeks. The majority of people that are new filers do not or did not have the capacity to lay in supplies for that long a period of time. I’ve also read where companies are NOT allowing laid off employees to use their paid vacation time to cover the loss of their jobs. Like I said, something I read on the internet so FWIW. With my reduced hours, I’ll be slowly milking my vacation to add a buffer but luckily (smartly?) my LW and I have always lived far enough away from stores where we keep the freezer stocked and 2 pantries with dry goods.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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It's migitating your chances, taking precautions. That's part of what we're being asked to do.

How is it "mitigating your chances" by banning small social events with people you know, yet you can go to the grocery store with 100 strangers? Shutting down nail salons, which typically have maybe 5 people at any given time AND they sterilize everything, vs 200 people milling about the Lowes?

Does that make sense to you, and if so please explain it to me.
 

mitzi

Well-Known Member
Right, but your irrational fears are destroying actual lives. That's not simply an "opinion" and it's definitely not freedom. If it were, you would stay home with your fears and I would be able to move freely.

How is it that you don't see that?

Have you had vaccinations?
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
How is it "mitigating your chances" by banning small social events with people you know, yet you can go to the grocery store with 100 strangers? Shutting down nail salons, which typically have maybe 5 people at any given time AND they sterilize everything, vs 200 people milling about the Lowes?

Does that make sense to you, and if so please explain it to me.
Yes, it does make sense to me.

Small social events under 10 people are not banned. The recommendations are to maintain a 6' distance between people.

I have not been in any grocery store in the past 10 days here in Calvert County that had 100 people in it at the same time. That goes for Walmart, as well. (as of today, even) There MIGHT have be 50 people in Giant or Safeway, but not Weis. (maybe 25). Walmart MIGHT have had 50-75 people. Although, I don't think so.

Shutting down nail salons, beauty parlors, hair salons, or places like that, where "personal services" take place - I am sure because that is a business in which they are touching humans. They are less than 6' apart when touching you and tending to that service. There is more of a chance to spread the disease with that close of contact.

In a grocery store, or Walmart, or even Lowes - you are able to maintain a 6' distance, which is the recommended distance they say you should maintain from people you don't live with.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

I don't know, they have already outlawed fishing and boating to private citizens.
Again, where the fck does kind of authority come from? To limit the free travel, of the people? Fck those pricks in government. I'm going fishing tomorrow. In my boat. Looking forward to the interaction with DNR.
 

vraiblonde

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Small social events under 10 people are not banned.

11 people is banned. And apparently the cops are doing headcounts.

In a grocery store, or Walmart, or even Lowes - you are able to maintain a 6' distance

Are you 6' away from the cashier when checking out?

I have not been in any grocery store in the past 10 days here in Calvert County that had 100 people in it at the same time. That goes for Walmart, as well. (as of today, even) There MIGHT have be 50 people in Giant or Safeway, but not Weis. (maybe 25). Walmart MIGHT have had 50-75 people. Although, I don't think so.

Next time you're social distancing with 100 strangers, do a head count. There are more people in those big stores than you think.

You know what? **** it. I don't really care. You people are the ones who'll suffer, not me. If your government handing down a bunch of arbitrary edicts makes you feel safe, rock on.

I'm putting all of you on mental ignore so I don't accidentally respond to you again with regard to this topic.
 

vraiblonde

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If I may ...


Again, where the fck does kind of authority come from? To limit the free travel, of the people? Fck those pricks in government. I'm going fishing tomorrow. In my boat. Looking forward to the interaction with DNR.

:yay: Somebody at some point has to stand up to these thugs.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
11 people is banned. And apparently the cops are doing headcounts.

I haven't seen that. Maybe they are. I have the Sheriff's number, I could give him a call.


Are you 6' away from the cashier when checking out?

I always do the self check out.


Next time you're social distancing with 100 strangers, do a head count. There are more people in those big stores than you think.

Okay, I'll do that. I made a note of it today, but I'll make a point to count them all. :yay:

You know what? **** it. I don't really care. You people are the ones who'll suffer, not me. If your government handing down a bunch of arbitrary edicts makes you feel safe, rock on.

I'm putting all of you on mental ignore so I don't accidentally respond to you again with regard to this topic.
Well, I guess that's fine if you do that, Vrai. You asked me questions, and I answered them honestly, and non confrontationally.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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I will leave you with this final thought, and then I will cease and desist:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

~ Martin Niemöller
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
It's fine to speak up and yell at people because they choose to speak up in different ways than you do. That's what it seems like lately. It's not our fault this happened. I get that you're pissed off about it. I know a lot of people who are.

What are you actually DOING about it all, though? You're asking us what we're doing, saying that we're cowering in fear and acting like lemmings. But what are you doing?
 
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PrchJrkr

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Wish I could find someone who did that - that I'd actually trust. Thinking right now that I just may have to grow it out again. It just gets so thick and takes so much longer to dry - drives me nuts.
I'm really rethinking this whole ponytail idea. My son has a pair of clippers and would be more than willing to scalp the old man. Unfortunately, my hair isn't thick, not that it ever really was, but at least I'm wash-comb-and-wear. :yay:
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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In the U.S. constitutional system, each state possesses a traditional authority to regulate in the name of public health, safety, and welfare. Known as the police powers, this authority has deep roots in Anglo-American law. In his landmark Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765), the British legal theorist William Blackstone defined the police powers as "the due regulation and domestic order of the kingdom, whereby the inhabitants of a State, like members of a well-governed family, are bound to conform their general behavior to the rules of propriety, good neighborhood, and good manners, and to be decent, industrious, and inoffensive in their respective stations."

Citing Blackstone, the American legal theorist Thomas Cooley, in his influential Treatise on the Constitutional Limitations Which Rest upon the Legislative Power of the States of the American Union (1871), said the police powers of a state "embraces its system of internal regulation, by which it is sought not only to preserve the public order and to prevent offenses against the State, but also to establish for the intercourse of citizen with citizen those rules of good manners and good neighborhood which are calculated to prevent a conflict of rights, and to insure to each the uninterrupted enjoyment of his own, so far as is reasonably consistent with a like enjoyment of rights by others."

https://reason.com/2020/03/18/police-powers-during-a-pandemic-constitutional-but-not-unlimited/
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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the woman who normally cuts my hair is going to make a house call ..... and do mine and mom's

You know that's illegal, right?

Which is fine with me - I'm all about the civil disobedience, but you were the one freaking out and saying everyone needs to just stay home.

Unless it's you that needs a haircut, amirite?
 
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