Lake Lariat not really closed?

[toppick08]

exactly what part is BS?


i suggest you try reading up on it.

Fish healthy, water healthy...........cleaner than your local grocery store.

 

[residentofcre]

the algae does not affect fish unless it is so prevalent that the O2 levels drop significantly.

so a fish looking healthy is no indication of hte health of the lake- or the possible dangers to humans from water contact.

as for the mercury, the state has issued the warning, you do with it what you will.

The State also says how many fish you can eat per period. I haven't checked in the last year or two to find out what the number or period is tho [week, month, or year]. I'm a catch and release fishergirl... I get my fish at the grocery store out of the freezer.

 

[tommyjones]

Fish healthy, water healthy...........cleaner than your local grocery store.

yu obviously have not been out on the lake lately.


seriously, you need to read up on the algae problem.

 

[toppick08]

yu obviously have not been out on the lake lately.


seriously, you need to read up on the algae problem.

You don't fish, do you ?

 

[residentofcre]

The algae is a natural occurance. That doesn't make it safe or pretty but it doesn't mean it's dirty or nasty.

The whole lake is a mud puddle. That's how it was created.

I don't like to swim in the Lake or the Bay because fish and jellyfish can bite me.

 

[baydoll]

Sure I'd eat it... it's beautiful... but I would rather put it back and catch it again. It looked like a very healthy fish. I've seen fish come out of the Bay that I wouldn't eat.

Thanks for answering my question.

Like I said, it's not harmful to swim in the lake according to any statute or standard set by the State. This was a board decision and we used Florida's standards because they are the most stringent. It's ok to get it on your skin as long as you shower it off. The reason we say not to swim is so people won't go submerging themselves in it. We'd rather err on the side of caution

So what happens if a child went in and accidently swallows lake water?

 

[tommyjones]

You don't fish, do you ?

i live on the lake, i fish it all the time, although i haven't been out in the last two weeks. The current state of the lake is that it has a severe algae bloom going on. You need to read up on it to understand. to just say "the fish are healthy so the water is" is just not accurate.

 

[residentofcre]

Thanks for answering my question.




So what happens if a child went in and accidently swallows lake water?

According to the research, if your child was playing in the water and drinking it once or twice this spring and summer... probably no harm. But prolonged skin contact may cause a rash [and drinking large amount (gallons and gallons) of the water might cause liver damage]. The potential exists tho and it is labled a "toxic" so we decided to err on the side of caution.

In Florida if a body of water has more than 14 parts per billion, then a warning is issued. If it is above 20 ppb then the body of water is closed for swimming. Ours tested less than 14ppb in the area around the swim area and the boat ramp and about 20ppb over on the other side of the lake near the road... like if you walk across the dam and down the bank.... but we decided that because the bloom ebbs and flows with the temperature and the sun, it might be best to close it for swimming all together.

The algae is a living organism.

 

[toppick08]

i live on the lake, i fish it all the time, although i haven't been out in the last two weeks. The current state of the lake is that it has a severe algae bloom going on. You need to read up on it to understand. to just say "the fish are healthy so the water is" is just not accurate.

I understand freshwater algae blooms, just as I understand red tides in the tidal waters.

The fish are fine, but I understand your concern........

 

[baydoll]

According to the research, if your child was playing in the water and drinking it once or twice this spring and summer... probably no harm. But prolonged skin contact may cause a rash [and drinking large amount (gallons and gallons) of the water might cause liver damage]. The potential exists tho and it is labled a "toxic" so we decided to err on the side of caution.

In Florida if a body of water has more than 14 parts per billion, then a warning is issued. If it is above 20 ppb then the body of water is closed for swimming. Ours tested less than 14ppb in the area around the swim area and the boat ramp and about 20ppb over on the other side of the lake near the road... like if you walk across the dam and down the bank.... but we decided that because the bloom ebbs and flows with the temperature and the sun, it might be best to close it for swimming all together.

The algae is a living organism.

Again thank you for answering my question.

So it wouldn't bother you if your child accidently ingested lake water?

 

[tommyjones]

I understand freshwater algae blooms, just as I understand red tides in the tidal waters.

The fish are fine, but I understand your concern........

then you understand that this type can produce chemicals that are toxic to mammals, but not fish, and only affects the fish if the oxygen is depleted.
therefore, not too dangerous to fish, but potentially dangerous to humans and other animals.

 

[tommyjones]

20 PPB of what?

and to get a real reading, several locations around the lake would need to be tested and the results normalized.

you cant take one or two samples from the same area of the lake and try to prove anything.

the algae blows all around the lake on any given day

 

[residentofcre]

There are several consumption advisories for fish in MD. They can be found here: http://www.mde.state.md.us/assets/do...Meals_Per_Year

If you have any trouble understanding the table please let me know - more info about contaminants in fish can also be found here: Fish and Shellfish Home

Thanks... I looked it up... they say 12 8oz portions of fish a year and avoid giving it to children under 3 at all..... so... that's it

12 fish a year is probably all I eat from the grocery store.

 

[residentofcre]

and to get a real reading, several locations around the lake would need to be tested and the results normalized.

you cant take one or two samples from the same area of the lake and try to prove anything.

the algae blows all around the lake on any given day

Yep... and that's what tipped the scales for us... we decided to err on the side of caution....

 

[baydoll]

I was told that a person's dog died after drinking the
lake water while out on a walk along the shore. This
was in the past few days. He said the vet diagnosed
it as "pythiosis". Not good.

Becky, doesn't the above worry/bother you even a little bit?

 

[exnodak]

According to the research, if your child was playing in the water and drinking it once or twice this spring and summer... probably no harm. But prolonged skin contact may cause a rash [and drinking large amount (gallons and gallons) of the water might cause liver damage]. The potential exists tho and it is labled a "toxic" so we decided to err on the side of caution.

In Florida if a body of water has more than 14 parts per billion, then a warning is issued. If it is above 20 ppb then the body of water is closed for swimming. Ours tested less than 14ppb in the area around the swim area and the boat ramp and about 20ppb over on the other side of the lake near the road... like if you walk across the dam and down the bank.... but we decided that because the bloom ebbs and flows with the temperature and the sun, it might be best to close it for swimming all together.

The algae is a living organism.

Unbelievable. "gallons and gallons"....?????

A 48 pound child would only need to consume 1/20 of a liter contaminated at 20 ppb microcystin before it exceeds the levels considered possible for liver damage by the World Health Organization. A 24 pound child would only need to consume 1/40th of a liter. In either case they would at least suffer from diarrhea.

The maximum level of microcystin toxin for consumable water worldwide is set at 1 ppb. 1/20th the level found in Lake Lariat.

Skin exposure for extended periods to 20 ppb microcystin will nearly always produce a rash that resembles an allergic reaction to food. It is not an allergy, it is a poisoning. Benadryl will probably not help.

In many instances, the U.S. is well behind the rest of the world in recognizing certain environmental health threats. This is just one of them.

Let's consider relative toxicity. Chlorine is recommended in public water supplies at a level of 1 ppm. At 4 ppm it is considered toxic and at 6 ppm you couldn't get it past your nose and it will bleach your clothes.

To be so cavalier about this stuff is really sickening.

 

[residentofcre]

Becky, doesn't the above worry you just a little bit?

It would but the I don't think it was our lake. If it was... I would be mortified but I don't know what else I can do....

 

[baydoll]

Unbelievable. "gallons and gallons"....?????

A 48 pound child would only need to consume 1/20 of a liter contaminated at 20 ppb microcystin before it exceeds the levels considered possible for liver damage by the World Health Organization. A 24 pound child would only need to consume 1/40th of a liter. In either case they would at least suffer from diarrhea.

The maximum level of microcystin toxin for consumable water worldwide is set at 1 ppb. 1/20th the level found in Lake Lariat.

Skin exposure for extended periods to 20 ppb microcystin will nearly always produce a rash that resembles an allergic reaction to food. It is not an allergy, it is a poisoning. Benadryl will probably not help.

In many instances, the U.S. is well behind the rest of the world in recognizing certain environmental health threats. This is just one of them.

Let's consider relative toxicity. Chlorine is recommended in public water supplies at a level of 1 ppm. At 4 ppm it is considered toxic and at 6 ppm you couldn't get it past your nose and it will bleach your clothes.

To be so cavalier about this stuff is really sickening.

I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[baydoll]

It would but the I don't think it was our lake. If it was... I would be mortified but I don't know what else I can do....

Do you know for sure it wasn't our lake? The poster said it WAS our lake.

 

[woogie]

exnodak;

What about that 'pythiosis' ? Are they testing for that?
can you give an explanation of what it is?

Thanks