Layoffs begin for tens of thousands of federal workers

[OccamsRazor]

And if the problem is so huge and involves the whole system, that's exactly what you have to do.

So... burn the house down and then worry about building it back.. later. Got it!

 

[vraiblonde]

So... burn the house down and then worry about building it back.. later. Got it!

Do you understand you're hysterical and over the edge? Or can you not see yourself?

 

[Kyle]

Do you understand you're hysterical and over the edge? Or can you not see yourself?

He thinks he’s the only one whose ox is being gored.

Regardless of it being the only way to get the barbecue rolling.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Do you understand you're hysterical and over the edge? Or can you not see yourself?

Not being hysterical. Just summarizing the ideals that are on display. If I am wrong, then by all means.. please explain in detail how this is actually different than what I explained or summarized.
Or will it be another in a long line of replies to the tune of "I don't have the time to explain what I think or know.. just enough time to tell you that you are wrong."

 

[my-thyme]

That thought process is akin to having plumbing issues in your home and, instead of identifying each problem individually and fixing them one-by-one.... you rip out all of the plumbing and start over.

Meanwhile, you get to have no water to drink and you get to sh!t in a bucket for the next few weeks while its being repaired.

Not the best strategy but, I am aware that you won't be convinced that there are possibly better ways to go about it so...

Yup, we've done that a couple times over the years.

 

[phreddyp]

Funny you say this... It is verbatim publicity speak for how this is getting done. I thought we were independent thinkers and not consuming the media speak...
To limit the potential of how this could have been executed by saying "there was no other way" is asinine. There are PLENTY of better or alternative ways to go about it.
As for your reasoning to WHY it was not done before, well.. that is because there was no real WILL to get it done. Until now.
Like I said, I think the WILL is there and it should be done... just in a better way.

You must have a head full of bubble wrap, layoffs should never be done piecemeal. You unsheathe the blade make the cuts then assess whether they obtain the desired result, you never want to have a second round, a few too many can be corrected easily.

 

[Ken King]

There were PLENTY of smarter ways to trim the fat and eliminate unproductive and unneeded workers.

Such as?

 

[stgislander]

Considering Trump has (maybe) two years to get the size of the fed under control, ax and chainsaw are appropriate.

 

[Kyle]

Not being hysterical. Just summarizing the ideals that are on display. If I am wrong, then by all means.. please explain in detail how this is actually different than what I explained or summarized.
Or will it be another in a long line of replies to the tune of "I don't have the time to explain what I think or know.. just enough time to tell you that you are wrong."

Then, please, by all means put out a detailed explanation of how you would accomplish the mission step-by-step.

 

[black dog]

Considering Trump has (maybe) two years to get the size of the fed under control, ax and chainsaw are appropriate.

Its no different than being the HR lady in a glass bottle factory that lost one of its two kilns. 50% of the workforce is leaving within a few days.
She gasses up the big boy Stihl chainsaw.

 

[black dog]

Then, please, by all means put out a detailed explanation of how you would accomplish the mission step-by-step.

And make sure that he runs it through the legal and HR departments.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Such as?

Well, ok... I will start. Hopefully I will get the same from the challengers...

First... Retire ALL employees that are retirement eligible. LOTS of folks "hanging around" that are eligible.
Second... Target underperformers. Any employee that is not performing to spec...
Third... Target redundancy areas. All across the board starting with management. 3 SES performing the job of 1, high level GS employees doing the jobs that only a few need to do. Work your way down.

A good start and sure to lower the body count.

So.. will I get my explanation now?

 

[Kyle]

Well, ok... I will start. Hopefully I will get the same from the challengers...

First... Retire ALL employees that are retirement eligible. LOTS of folks "hanging around" that are eligible.
Second... Target underperformers. Any employee that is not performing to spec...
Third... Target redundancy areas. All across the board starting with management. 3 SES performing the job of 1, high level GS employees doing the jobs that only a few need to do. Work your way down.

A good start and sure to lower the body count.

So.. will I get my explanation now?

And what if some of the retiree age personnel are the high performers? That seems like a poor way of doing things.

Explain how you’re gonna get around the union with the under performers. It already takes an act of God to get rid of one of the Putz’s surfing porn all day on their government computer.

redundancy is already being targeted. Two of the redundant groups and missions have been moved under state department already. Identified by doge.

Hell they could get rid of the whole SES designation altogether.

 

[Dakota]

Let the DC downsizing begin.

There's a bill in Congress to make DC a ward of the country like it's supposed to be and not have Mayors and City Councils to steal all the money and go get drunk. That's another thing Democrats have let get out of control.

Dreams really do come true!!!

I suspect that many DC Councils members were involed in that Brothel bust in Virgina a few years back.

 

[GURPS]

Somebody on ignore is crying the blues about the cuts ... is this the same troll worried about who was a Gov Employee or Contractor posting on SOMD all day long

 

[GURPS]

Do you understand you're hysterical and over the edge? Or can you not see yourself?

the same troll that is obsessed with me

 

[WingsOfGold]

Mum was the word when Dementia Joe FIRED career military for not taking the jab while sandcrabs stayed home and supposedly 'worked".
Most of these guys actually had skin in the game, crabs not so much.

 

[WingsOfGold]

the same troll that is obsessed with me

Well if you didn't seduce with that tight ass and sexy walk............

 

[WingsOfGold]

Well, ok... I will start. Hopefully I will get the same from the challengers...

First... Retire ALL employees that are retirement eligible. LOTS of folks "hanging around" that are eligible.
Second... Target underperformers. Any employee that is not performing to spec...
Third... Target redundancy areas. All across the board starting with management. 3 SES performing the job of 1, high level GS employees doing the jobs that only a few need to do. Work your way down.

A good start and sure to lower the body count.

So.. will I get my explanation now?

Sounds reasonable for starters.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

And that exact kind of thinking is exactly why it hasn’t been done in the last three attempts. Always some reason why it’s not the right way.

All the hand ringing over “careful consideration” or “studying the workforce requirements” and other bullshit reasons to throw the brakes on things…

Take a chainsaw to it.

it won’t actually happen any other way.

If they simply gave supervisors the power to more easily fire someone.

My dept has gotten rid of three people over performance but that was only due to a tenacious supervisor, his SES removed him as a supervisor because he was too mean.