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2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
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Midnightrider said:
The last grasp of someone with no point is to attack the spelling and grammer of the person with a valid point.
I may have made a mistake in spelling, but i am certainly not lacking in knowledge, at least not about constitutional law....
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:killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme
Must be a lawyer. :killingme :killingme :killingme
 
bcp

bcp

In My Opinion
Midnightrider said:
actually, lots of things go better without, governement and schools to name just two. One thing our founding fathers did get right.

nothing wrong with having faith, but yours isnt the only one, and therefore there is no reason it should be forced onto the multitudes in public schools
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Just a tad slow here but, Can you point out the place in the constitution where the founding fathers wrote that religion must be kept out of the schools and government?

oh, and please do not bring up amendments, the founding fathers did not write in the amendments, they wrote the constitution as it was before amendments.

thank you in advance for this as I am sure that you will be able to clear this up for me.
 
2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

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bcp said:
Just a tad slow here but, Can you point out the place in the constitution where the founding fathers wrote that religion must be kept out of the schools and government?

oh, and please do not bring up amendments, the founding fathers did not write in the amendments, they wrote the constitution as it was before amendments.

thank you in advance for this as I am sure that you will be able to clear this up for me.
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Actually the Founders were responsible for the first ten amendments. There were twelve proposed but only ten passed the states assemblies vote. The states would not accept the Constitution without the first ten amendments, the Bill of Rights.

But your premise is correct. Nowhere in the Constitution or any of the amendments does it say that there can be no religion in government or government institutions like schools.
 
bcp

bcp

In My Opinion
2ndAmendment said:
Actually the Founders were responsible for the first ten amendments. There were twelve proposed but only ten passed the states assemblies vote. The states would not accept the Constitution without the first ten amendments, the Bill of Rights.

But your premise is correct. Nowhere in the Constitution or any of the amendments does it say that there can be no religion in government or government institutions like schools.
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As would be normal, you are correct.
I was however refering to the religious aspect of the constitution.

Im pretty sure that if in fact that founding fathers would have meant that schools could not allow the students to pray, or that government would not be allowed to show a belief in God, then they would have not allowed the school prayer, or the reference to God in government functions and ceremony.
Since it was only many years later that religion was outlawed, I can only assume that it was an incorrect interpretation of what the founding fathers wanted to provide for.

My assumption is that the founding fathers were putting an end to a government having the ability to force you to be Catholic, or Jewish Or Muslim, or whatever, Im thinking that their thoughts were that, even though the U.S would be a country based on the belief in One God, and in Jesus, we as a country would not force you to follow the same belief.

Prayer in school can no more make me a christian than teaching about darwin can make me a naturalist.
 
2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

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bcp said:
As would be normal, you are correct.
I was however refering to the religious aspect of the constitution.

Im pretty sure that if in fact that founding fathers would have meant that schools could not allow the students to pray, or that government would not be allowed to show a belief in God, then they would have not allowed the school prayer, or the reference to God in government functions and ceremony.
Since it was only many years later that religion was outlawed, I can only assume that it was an incorrect interpretation of what the founding fathers wanted to provide for.

My assumption is that the founding fathers were putting an end to a government having the ability to force you to be Catholic, or Jewish Or Muslim, or whatever, Im thinking that their thoughts were that, even though the U.S would be a country based on the belief in One God, and in Jesus, we as a country would not force you to follow the same belief.

Prayer in school can no more make me a christian than teaching about darwin can make me a naturalist.
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bcp

bcp

In My Opinion
Bustem' Down said:
I don't want my kids praying in school. If you want prayer in school, go to a private school.
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And I dont want my kids learning the liberal version of sex ed in school. If you want your kids to learn that, then send them to a gay hooker.
 
Bustem' Down

Bustem' Down

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bcp said:
And I dont want my kids learning the liberal version of sex ed in school. If you want your kids to learn that, then send them to a gay hooker.
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I never said I wanted them to learn that either.
 
Azzy

Azzy

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bcp said:
And I dont want my kids learning the liberal version of sex ed in school. If you want your kids to learn that, then send them to a gay hooker.
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Holy crap :killingme

I would love for my kids to pray in school, I think thats whats wrong with people now, everyone is all atheist and in turn, that makes them not give a crap about right and wrong.
 
Bustem' Down

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Azzy said:
Holy crap :killingme

I would love for my kids to pray in school, I think thats whats wrong with people now, everyone is all atheist and in turn, that makes them not give a crap about right and wrong.
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You couldn't be more wrong. I give a crap about right and wrong.
 
JumpinJack

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bcp said:
And I dont want my kids learning the liberal version of sex ed in school. If you want your kids to learn that, then send them to a gay hooker.
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:thewave: :thewave: :thewave:
I dont want my kid to have to worry about getting shot in shcool. If you want yours to send him to be a target at a gun range
 
Azzy

Azzy

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Bustem' Down said:
You couldn't be more wrong. I give a crap about right and wrong.
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Funny, look at us. The prayer and the non prayer. And yet we are both wrong.
 
Azzy

Azzy

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JumpinJack said:
:thewave: :thewave: :thewave:
I dont want my kid to have to worry about getting shot in shcool. If you want yours to send him to be a target at a gun range
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My, isnt THAT morbid.
 
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