Monica Lewinsky speaks out on affair with Clinton

Pete

Repete
Are you kidding? He got her a Senate seat, then a credible presidential run, then a Secretary of State gig. Surely you don't think their marriage was based on love and mutual respect? Hillary hitched her wagon to a star. You'd think the feminists would lose their minds over that, but nope.

:yeahthat: She has brains and political cunning, what she lacked was charisma. She gets it by proxy while she is married to Bill. Divorce Bill and she is just another unattractive thick ankled semi-intellectual who is boring and uninspiring trying to make it in DC.
 

ArkRescue

Adopt me please !
In released excerpts, she says she's perhaps the first Internet era scapegoat and wants to speak out on behalf of other victims of online humiliation.... how is she going to help them? Tell them not to have affairs with older men or ensure you take your dress immediately to the dry cleaners and make sure they pretreat any stains? :coffee:

Seriously she wants to help others? Who suggested that crock of bull to her? She's not intelligent enough to think of much on her own obviously. Didn't she write a book? Bill and I Forever ..... Chapter 1: he smiled at me ..... Chapter 2: he invited me to see the underside of his desk in the oval office .... Chapter 3: I was thrilled to be giving ole Bill a thrill - OMG I XXXXXX off the President. Chapter 4: Bill lied - he did too have sex with me! :tantrum: ... Chapter 5: The whole world is saying I'm a slut, but I'm not a slut!
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Bill Clinton definitely took advantage of her?
Sugar pie honey bunch, when you show your thong to a man (anywhere, much less in the workplace )- and to the President of the United States, no less, you are not being taken advantage of. You are a no class hussy who knew exactly what you were doing. The entire time.
Internet scapegoat?
Hah. You deserve every bit of public humiliation and shame that you got. You brought it all on yourself. No sympathy from me then and none now all these years later. Enjoy the life you chose and I hope you like that bed you made for yourself.
 

BadGirl

I am so very blessed
I have empathy for her.

I do believe that The Machine of the Clinton presidency totally railroaded her. Clinton got away practically unscathed, and she can't even get a job, and her name is forever tied to this incident.

Of course she did it for money. How else is she supposed to support herself?
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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I have empathy for her.

I do believe that The Machine of the Clinton presidency totally railroaded her. Clinton got away practically unscathed, and she can't even get a job, and her name is forever tied to this incident.

Of course she did it for money. How else is she supposed to support herself?

I completely agree with you. I felt sorry for that girl then and still have some sympathy for her now. She was just a kid when this all went down (heh) but he was the freaking President of the United States. HE was supposed to be the mature one, not her. HE was the married man, not her. And you are absolutely right that he got a little slappy wink-wink as "punishment", while she became a national punchline. It's bull####.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
I have empathy for her.

I do believe that The Machine of the Clinton presidency totally railroaded her. Clinton got away practically unscathed, and she can't even get a job, and her name is forever tied to this incident.

Of course she did it for money. How else is she supposed to support herself?



I have to agree. I get annoyed at the "took advantage of me" language though. Id really like to hear one of them sayt he truth for once. "I really wanted to try out the prez cuz it made me feel cool" and move on. That type of langage just makes women look like victims to men's sexual whims. Its obnoxious.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
I don't think being only 22 at the time makes her a victim. She knew what she was doing! At the time, I was completely apalled - it was the President for crying out loud! I found the lack of respect for the office just so abhorrent. That's just me. :ohwell:

Did it get out of hand - yes, for sure. Did the political machine make mincemeat of her - yes it did - bigtime.

I just find it hard to feel sorry for her when she says now that he took advantage of her. By 22, women know that showing off a thong to a man is flirting and making advances. She may have been stupid and got in way further than she planned- but she can't say she was taken advantage of. She was actively seeking out that power & ego trip.

I have no love for Clinton or the fact that he cheated on his wife and he brought shame and disgrace to that office -his position and literally - the Oval Office. I lay blame on him for those things and maybe even more as his position does warrant that his reputation be above reproach - but to me - that is another thread.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
It's all about timing. Get it over with now instead of when Hillary is running for president. Everything is orchestrated. Nothing is left to chance.

You have a good point and if correct she just fell into the slime and let them do it to her again.
 

mamatutu

mama to two
You have a good point and if correct she just fell into the slime and let them do it to her again.

Yes, Goose does have a good point. This is exactly what Mrs. Cheney was saying to Laura Ingram last night on O'Reilly. This is very intentional to get it out of the way because it would/will come up during the election campaign.
 

ArkRescue

Adopt me please !
You have a good point and if correct she just fell into the slime and let them do it to her again.

Right I believe someone put it into her head to come out again now - she didn't just think this up on her own. As far as a job, she went to college so she knows how to do something? She can also legally change her name and color her hair if she wants to forget who she was so she can work (well so others won't know who she is). She should have realized to have relations with the MARRIED President of the United States might just come with lifelong notoriety, at least in the USA. I don't buy her age making her not so wrong. 22 or 32 - She knew right from wrong.
 

vraiblonde

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By 22, women know that showing off a thong to a man is flirting and making advances.

Oh sure, but I don't think she realized what she was getting into. POTUS isn't exactly like fooling with college boys. What was the name of that girl who came up dead while having an affair with that Congressprick from California? I still say he had her killed. That's a little too coincidental for my radar to ignore.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Oh sure, but I don't think she realized what she was getting into. POTUS isn't exactly like fooling with college boys. What was the name of that girl who came up dead while having an affair with that Congressprick from California? I still say he had her killed. That's a little too coincidental for my radar to ignore.

Chandra Levy.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Oh sure, but I don't think she realized what she was getting into. POTUS isn't exactly like fooling with college boys. What was the name of that girl who came up dead while having an affair with that Congressprick from California? I still say he had her killed. That's a little too coincidental for my radar to ignore.

Chandra Levy.

:yay:

I believe he killed her, too.
 

mamatutu

mama to two
Yes fooling around with high and mighty people can lead to them finding your body at Fort Marcy park.

Isn't it funny that ordinary people can become high powered people because ordinary people elect them. Then, they take it to a whole new level, and think they are special, and off anyone they think is in their way; whether by slander or death. What ever happened to "we the people"?
 
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PsyOps

Pixelated
I admit to not being the brightest bulb on the tree, but why would someone who claims she was humiliated and put upon by the press and the internet wait until she was 40 years old and bring back all of this humiliation on herself to a new generation.

There are some thing she has never denied. She gave Bill Clinton a hummer and allowed him to stick his cigars into her while he beat off in the sink and on her dress.
(A real classy guy that Bubba)
He never gave her actual intercourse because he wanted to deny he had sex with her. His definition of sex the actual act of intercourse.

If this woman did not want to be humiliated again why didn't she just STFU?

There is no doubt in my mind that this was a calculated move somehow, somewhere. Perhaps Hillary pushing it out there to clear the air before her bid in ’16. Maybe Monica needed the money and got tired of flipping burgers. As much as I agree she was a consenting adult she was taken advantage of by the most powerful man in the world, and as a result Clinton’s life prospered while Monica’s was virtually ruined. Becoming a Whitehouse intern is no easy feat. People at that age that want to be interns rather than partying it up with their pals have big political aspirations. Monica’s were destroyed by this womanizing adulterer.

And you can believe what you want about whether they had actual sex or not; to me that’s moot. You have the person holding the most powerful office in the world not only committing adultery (a huge breach of distrust), but doing it in the oval office; then worse, lying about it under oath. Then goes on to become the darling of the democrat party, while his wife rises to power, while Monica struggles to establish some sort of career. I don’t know what’s sadder: the commentary this makes on our modern politics, or the commentary it makes on who we choose to trust in our high elected offices.
 
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PsyOps

Pixelated
I don't think being only 22 at the time makes her a victim. She knew what she was doing! At the time, I was completely apalled - it was the President for crying out loud! I found the lack of respect for the office just so abhorrent. That's just me. :ohwell:

Did it get out of hand - yes, for sure. Did the political machine make mincemeat of her - yes it did - bigtime.

I just find it hard to feel sorry for her when she says now that he took advantage of her. By 22, women know that showing off a thong to a man is flirting and making advances. She may have been stupid and got in way further than she planned- but she can't say she was taken advantage of. She was actively seeking out that power & ego trip.

I have no love for Clinton or the fact that he cheated on his wife and he brought shame and disgrace to that office -his position and literally - the Oval Office. I lay blame on him for those things and maybe even more as his position does warrant that his reputation be above reproach - but to me - that is another thread.

I don’t feel sorry for her so much as I am ashamed of our political system that it can just turn a blind eye to this sort of abuse of power. That it can just destroy lives and not bat an eye. That we don’t hold firm accountability to these abusive politicians. This is more a reflection on the voters. Americans seemed to cheer Clinton for his womanizing savvy. How cool is it to abuse an intern in the Oval Office?

I think power causes people on both sides of the influence to do some really irrational things. But the responsibility always lies in the hands of the person WITH the power. Monica may have been 22 and perfectly within her capacity to decide what she was doing; but we’re talking about the president. She got stars in her eyes and there was no way she could see how this could come crashing down on here. Clinton, on the other hand, had an entire entourage of legal and political protection. The man lied under oath and got away with it. This is just a complete breach of trust on every level.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
I don’t feel sorry for her so much as I am ashamed of our political system that it can just turn a blind eye to this sort of abuse of power. That it can just destroy lives and not bat an eye. That we don’t hold firm accountability to these abusive politicians. This is more a reflection on the voters. Americans seemed to cheer Clinton for his womanizing savvy. How cool is it to abuse an intern in the Oval Office?

I think power causes people on both sides of the influence to do some really irrational things. But the responsibility always lies in the hands of the person WITH the power. Monica may have been 22 and perfectly within her capacity to decide what she was doing; but we’re talking about the president. She got stars in her eyes and there was no way she could see how this could come crashing down on here. Clinton, on the other hand, had an entire entourage of legal and political protection. The man lied under oath and got away with it. This is just a complete breach of trust on every level.

Americans seemed to cheer for Clinton? No, I think it was a certain type of American. Certain media types? Yes, the Leftist Media, which, at the time owned the broadcast media & print media. But not the Internet media, which was starting to emerge in popularity to the general public.

No, it is NOT cool to abuse an intern in the Oval Office. It is NOT cool for a US President to defame and disgrace the political office in the manner Bill Clinton did. No, it is NOT cool that his political machine destroyed her and any other woman who became entangled with Bill Clinton when it became public. But those are 2 different stories. Monica made her bed. She layed in it. Well, not really. She had an UNREQUITED love affair. She was treated like yesterday's trash, but she was treated that way all along. She was still going after him, she was still trying to have a "consummated" relationship with him. It was her MO. According to stories of the time, she never had one successful relationship, because (IMO) she sought unattainable relationships. Guys who would not treat her right, married men, etc.

Maybe Monica was a messed up young woman, but she was no angel. Go back and read some of the newspaper articles & interviews of people involved in Monica's life BEFORE she went to Washington. Monica Lewinsky was - to use a stereotype - a Jewish American Princess who lived in the 90210 zip code. However, she never got the love & attention she craved from her daddy. Mommy was a self absorbed, star crazy aspiring journalist. Her parents divorced and Monica finished out her HS years craving to be accepted by the "in-crowd" but was always on the fringe. She would shower acquaintances with gifts in order to be accepted, she went overboard in her attempts to be popular, etc.

Then, at 19, she became involved with a married HS teacher from her old HS, while she was babysitting his children. According to some accounts I've re-read from that era, her mother got her the internship (through a high-powered connection, of course) in Washington to get her OUT of that relationship. Some accounts say it only ended when the wifey-poo found out, other accounts say it ended when mommy dearest got her the internship.

I cut my Intrawebs teeth on the Monica Lewinsky scandal. We had just obtained internet access since the Ex was leaving for a Med Cruise in the Navy. I was horrified at the details being exposed on the news! I couldn't believe my ears that something like this was happening and I didn't believe it was true. When I heard about "The Drudge Report" the first time, it was on CNN and after I found that website, I used to live there and also on Lucianne.com, because both websites came out about that same time. I did not feel Monica's pain at all, ever. I think she caused it. Yes, she was decimated by the Clinton Machine, but I think that is what happens when you mess with fire. You get burned. Bill Clinton's peccadillos and his womanizing history is a separate story altogether.

You know, I was 22 at one time. I worked for a very large "quasi" government type of agency in Washington, DC. While there, I was asked to apply for a certain job, and was flattered that I was personally sought out! I went to talk to the Director of that Department about the position, and I realized in the middle of the discussion that the "job" as his assistant would involve much more than just my clerical abilities. He didn't come right out and SAY it to me, of course. It was very obvious to me, though. I was very young, very naive, and such a goody goody two shoes. However, I was not flattered any longer. I was scared out of my wits, to be honest. I left that office that day and never applied for that job, because I had a feeling it would not be what I was after. So there are many types of young, naive 22 year old women. I was not the Monica Lewinsky type.
 
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