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SkylarkTempest

SkylarkTempest

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Spitfire said:
Greetings:

I am not sure I understand. It is logically possible to recognize this man was a terrorist who needed to die, and at the same time recognize his "reverence" which some seem to confuse with "sympathizing with a terrorist". I don't see how that connection is made. I mean the comparison to Richelieu and Machiavelli a isn't a complimentary one. Any to deny they weren't brilliant ... I mean, please explain. He was revered. Iran's population is over 80 million people. It's well known that lots of "regular people" Iranians don't like this dude and aren't crying over his death, but that still doesn't logically preclude describing him as "revered" as far as a general description.

In any case POTUS made a decision to take him out; the decision is his and his alone to make. Action appears to 100% within scope of authority that Congress voted away to the EOP. I don't think these would be covered by extant AUMF but rather authority granted specifically via USC. It doesn't mean Trump has bigger weenor than Obama, it just means he decided to try another path forward on the Iran situation. Give it a chance to work or not work. Time will tell for any net-positives or net-negatives to the U.S.

I choose to remain optimistic.
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Well said. I'm not sure why PsyOps refuses to acknowledge this point. Both McConnell and Schumer have denounced this dude as awful and a terrorist. If both Republicans and Democrats are calling him a terrorist, what is your big issue PsyOps?
 
PsyOps

PsyOps

Pixelated
Midnightrider said:
the difference is spin, and you are guzzling it as fast as you can.

The WaPo line is 100% accurate. He was irans most revered military leader
the NBC line, lets see the context, i bet the next part is "in iran"
The CBS statement 100% accurate
Zakaria, i dont know if its 100% accurate, but it probaly is
Dorsey, 100% accurate

so far none of those people or organizations have praised solimani, they are describing his role in Iran. thats the problem with spun up videos, they get YOU spun up but they dont deliever on truth. You really are smarter than this Psy. you know that context is everytthing.


We most certainly considered solimani a terrosit, but Iran considers the US forces in the ME terrorists too. Today i read the declared all US military and governent officals as terrorists too. So the playing field is even. WE are all justifed in killing terrorists :bigwhoop:
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You are completely ignorant of my point. Soleimani was a TERRORIST! Not one of them made mention of that. Instead they decided to peddle the Iranian Iranian praises of this guy and validate them by refusing to point out who this monster really was.

And you are doing exactly what you're accusing me of... guzzling the leftist talking points as fast as you can.
 
PsyOps

PsyOps

Pixelated
Spitfire said:
Greetings:

I am not sure I understand. It is logically possible to recognize this man was a terrorist who needed to die, and at the same time recognize his "reverence" which some seem to confuse with "sympathizing with a terrorist".
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Well, the only part that's missing from the left is calling Soleimani a terrorist.
 
Midnightrider

Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
You are completely ignorant of my point. Soleimani was a TERRORIST! Not one of them made mention of that. Instead they decided to peddle the Iranian Iranian praises of this guy and validate them by refusing to point out who this monster really was.

And you are doing exactly what you're accusing me of... guzzling the leftist talking points as fast as you can.
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You don’t know that, all you know is the 2-3 seconds fox chose to spin you up with. That’s why I asked you for the source material, for context. For all you know every one of them did also say he was a monster and terrorist.

I haven’t taken any leftist talking points. The guy was Iran’s #2. Any logical person would understand that makes him a revered person in his country. The literal tons of Iranians who packed the streets for his funeral speak to the same thing. It makes no sense to ignore the fact that there will be retribution for killing the guy. As I said, Iran’s parliament voted on a resolution declaring all us forces and reps terrorists as a result of this attack. They also dedicated $220M to the effort.
 
Midnightrider

Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
Well, the only part that's missing from the left is calling Soleimani a terrorist.
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Go watch that cbs YouTube you linked to. It clearly said he was designated a foreign terrorist and it detailed his actions all while displaying a banner saying ‘brutal history of Iranian general’.

stop sucking on and repeating the spin.
 
This_person

This_person

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Midnightrider said:
Go watch that cbs YouTube you linked to. It clearly said he was designated a foreign terrorist and it detailed his actions all while displaying a banner saying ‘brutal history of Iranian general’.

stop sucking on and repeating the spin.
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So you CAN watch videos!!
 
Merlin99

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
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Midnightrider said:
You don’t know that, all you know is the 2-3 seconds fox chose to spin you up with. That’s why I asked you for the source material, for context. For all you know every one of them did also say he was a monster and terrorist.

I haven’t taken any leftist talking points. The guy was Iran’s #2. Any logical person would understand that makes him a revered person in his country. The literal tons of Iranians who packed the streets for his funeral speak to the same thing. It makes no sense to ignore the fact that there will be retribution for killing the guy. As I said, Iran’s parliament voted on a resolution declaring all us forces and reps terrorists as a result of this attack. They also dedicated $220M to the effort.
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So Mike Pence is revered? He'll be glad to hear that.
 
Gilligan

Gilligan

#*! boat!
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Lemme guess...ABM STILL proudly supporting his Iranian pals...

Figgered he would be more interested in that Kenyan attack.
 
Midnightrider

Midnightrider

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Gilligan said:
Lemme guess...ABM STILL proudly supporting his Iranian pals...

Figgered he would be more interested in that Kenyan attack.
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That’s a lot of derp, and getting progressively more derpy.
Keep clicking ‘show ignored content’ Mo. you aren’t fooling anyone
 
Kyle

Kyle

ULTRA-F###ING-MAGA!
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SkylarkTempest

SkylarkTempest

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Merlin99 said:
I recognize that reply, why the new nom de guerre?
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Okay, that's the second or third weird reply like this. Do people on this forum think I'm someone they've encountered before? That's not possible. But I'm curious to talk to this person now because apparently we think alike.
 
littlelady

littlelady

God bless the USA
Midnightrider said:
Yep, he is our president and if he were killed by Iran I would consider it an act of war despite them declaring trump a terrorist.
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Are you fricking kidding me? Did you really post that? Does your mind erase history, or previous prezs? Nevermind. I should have expected this from you. The Dems are the party of Obama’s beloved flip flops. Are you ok in identifying with that strategy? Do you ignore that WE have seen, consistently the words ...death to the US...coming from Iran. Do WE say that to Iran? No, WE don’t.
 
littlelady

littlelady

God bless the USA
SkylarkTempest said:
What kind of reply is that? That doesn't explain your reasoning at all and does nothing to inform me of your point of view. Clearly I do pay attention to what's going on, but reasonable people can disagree. I'm curious to know if there's an angle I'm not seeing. If you don't want to reply, then don't, but please try and be adult about it.
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:rolleyes:
 
littlelady

littlelady

God bless the USA
SkylarkTempest said:
Okay, that's the second or third weird reply like this. Do people on this forum think I'm someone they've encountered before? That's not possible. But I'm curious to talk to this person now because apparently we think alike.
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No matter who you are, I feel sorry for you. You are, obviously, not a patriot of the USA.
 
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