These guys put their pants on in the morning the same as I do mister.
Do you believe there is nothing the commander in chief could do that would warrant his defiance?
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I guess you didn't spend a lot of time around navy officers. Talk about arrogance. I met a few great ones but conversely ran into more than my share of self important ***s.
I agree that members of the military should be addressed by their specific rank or the generally accepted address ("Colonel" vs. "Lt Colonel") especially in that setting. He was right to correct members of Congress on that point.
As an aside, as a group, in any of the services, Navy Chiefs are especially arrogant when it comes to addressing them by their specific rank and their inherent obsession of being God-like, IMO. [Spoken as a retired Air Force MSgt who had to deal with the Navy (and Army and Marines) during my active duty days and in retirement as a contractor.]
They are all testifying to what they think they understood or may have heard.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...onald-trump-n1086441?cid=par-xfinity_20191120
Why Lt. Col. Vindman is a 'dangerous' witness for Pres. Trump:
NOV. 19, 201903:28
........................"Lt. Col. Vindman brought receipts," Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., a member of the Intelligence Committee, wrote in a tweet directed at Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio. "You can keep smearing a decorated war hero, but he brought his performance review today."
The other witnesses — Volker, Morrison and Jennifer Williams — were expected to provide testimony helpful to the president.
They did not.
It was bad enough that the main question multiple Republican lawmakers had for witnesses was whether they had observed others committing acts of bribery, extortion or treason — questions that both called upon the witnesses to act as juries and could have exposed them to legal jeopardy had they answered in the affirmative.
But it's not a big deal except to those who think they're more important than they really are.
I disagree heartily on this. I think that Nunes called him "mister" as a matter of habit versus being rude or insulting.Nunes called Vindman "mister" to insult him...to get a rise...he failed.
To this day if I meet someone who retired as a Master Chief, I still address them as Master Chief.Old joke,
If i'm at a party with 200 attendees and there are 3 Navy Jet Jockeys in attendance, how will I know who they are?
One that was a friend, neighbor or family could call my"Father" a Master Chief Petty Officer by a few names.
Sir always worked for his children, Mr S#!&%, Ralph or Master Chief.
When he grew old I got away with calling him Master Chief and after my son was in JROTC he could call his Grandfather Master Chief...
I wish he could see his grandson, he makes Corpral net mo
Tim Kennedy, an active, Green Beret, Special Forces Sniper with tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, said “correcting a civilian about how to be addressed is for sure a way to make everyone in the military think you’re a douche bag.”
FOREIGN POLICY
Issued on: November 19, 2019
Beginning January 20, 2017, I was privileged to serve as Chief of Staff at the National Security Council. Since April 23, 2018, I have served as National Security Advisor to the Vice President of the United States. In my role in the Office of the Vice President, Jennifer Williams, a detailee from the U.S. Department of State, has reported to me since April 1, 2019.
I was on the much-reported July 25 call between President Donald Trump and President Zelensky. As an exceedingly proud member of President Trump’s Administration and as a 34-year highly experienced combat veteran who retired with the rank of Lieutenant General in the Army, I heard nothing wrong or improper on the call. I had and have no concerns. Ms. Williams was also on the call, and as she testified, she never reported any personal or professional concerns to me, her direct supervisor, regarding the call. In fact, she never reported any personal or professional concerns to any other member of the Vice President’s staff, including our Chief of Staff and the Vice President.
Today, in her testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Ms. Williams also accurately testified regarding the Vice President’s preparation for and conduct during his September 1 meeting in Poland with President Zelensky. In her testimony, she affirmed that the Vice President focused on President Zelensky’s anti-corruption efforts and the lack of European support and never mentioned former Vice President Joe Biden, Crowdstrike, Burisma, or investigations in any communication with Ukrainians.
In my over 40-years in uniform and additional federal service, I am honored to serve this President and this Vice President as we advance the interests of the American people.
Kellogg had a GREAT rep. I never met him, but I knew folks who had and their assessment was .Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg
I was drawn to the "V" devices... (among other things).Special Forces, Ranger... all you need to know.
Yup, you're that guy.I may not support his testimony but I do support his point regarding his title. His title was earned and he is entitled to be referred to as LtCol. It is an acknowledgement of his position. If someone had called me Mister or E-7 when I was a Chief Petty Officer I would have done the same as he did. Later as a commissioned officer I felt the same. We address doctors, political persons, and a host of others by their title to recognize their accomplishments. I see no braggadocio or self-importance by LtCol Vindman's request.