MVA One Overturned - Clements

[mmesser0]

mmesser0, step away from the keyboard. You are fighting a losing battle with this one.

Thanks for stopping and assisting, but your opinions about our county are not wanted nor appreciated.

then don't read'em LOL and once again, I live in this county too.

 

[mizteresa1965]

 

[nachomama]

I'm glad you get it. All these other people on here read what they wanted to. We actually live in Mechanicsville now. We were in Lusby and the Solomons station on Little Cove Point Rd failed miserably all the time. It's sad. But during the day, people work and have to take care of other responsibilites they may have. When my husband volunteered in PG, he'd work at night for that very reason. I don't know, we could sit here and beat the subject to death with a stick. My only thing I was stating was we always hear about the response times down here in St.Marys and I was actually able to witness it first hand. We've been fortunate to never have to call 911 for an emergency ourselves, so that's the first time I've seen it. Thanks for understanding and not being a dick like the others. I'm not attacking the system, it's more or less the county because they have known about the problem for a while. But like most places, they'll be re-active instead of pro-active.

But, like baja said, you can't expect paramedics to cover 10 miles of road in less than 5 minutes, and when you are in a situation such as the one you experienced the other day, time DRAGS until help arrives - whether it takes 5 minutes or 20 minutes.

I would never once ever ever ever complain that it took VOLUNTEERS longer to respond to a call. I may freak out because it took longer than I wanted, but I'd never complain, because there are times when they may have been out in their own yards doing yard work, coaching their kids ball team, or even in church when they get the call. They drop whatever it is they are doing to respond to our need, and I'll be damned if I'm going to complain because they took so long.

 

[nachomama]

then don't read'em LOL and once again, I live in this county too.

Believe me, I haven't read all of them. I get pissed off when I do. :shrug:

 

[Baja28]

then don't read'em LOL and once again, I live in this county too.

Hope you live next door to the firehouse. I'd hate for you to have to wait 15 minutes for a fire truck.

 

[rwethereyet]

I'm glad you get it. All these other people on here read what they wanted to. We actually live in Mechanicsville now. We were in Lusby and the Solomons station on Little Cove Point Rd failed miserably all the time. It's sad. But during the day, people work and have to take care of other responsibilites they may have. When my husband volunteered in PG, he'd work at night for that very reason. I don't know, we could sit here and beat the subject to death with a stick. My only thing I was stating was we always hear about the response times down here in St.Marys and I was actually able to witness it first hand. We've been fortunate to never have to call 911 for an emergency ourselves, so that's the first time I've seen it. Thanks for understanding and not being a dick like the others. I'm not attacking the system, it's more or less the county because they have known about the problem for a while. But like most places, they'll be re-active instead of pro-active.

Sounds to me that you constantly compare paid people to volunteers. And I hope to hell you didn't move here because you didn't like the response times in Lusby???

Again, move to PG where maybe you might feel safer should you get in an accident.

 

[sockgirl77]

I'm still trying to figure out if the child was in a booster seat.

 

[bohman]

So you think because someone gets paid, it will make them get to the scene quicker? I appreciated our volunteers and think they do an awesome job. It's the idiots like you that are moving down here, messing up what used to be a beautiful county. Now it's being overrun by transplants that b!tch about every little thing.

You know, I'd normally jump on the bandwagon to trash somebody that chooses to move here and then #####es about the way things are, but this is not #####ing about "every little thing." When somebody in your family gets hurt, you'll see the difference between 5 minute response time and 15 minute response time.

This is in no way an attack on the volunteers - they do a great job and I know how devoted most are to what they do. But is it possible - just possible - that maybe they are slightly hamstrung by the fact that they have other stuff to do besides just waiting for an emergency?

 

[Baja28]

You know, I'd normally jump on the bandwagon to trash somebody that chooses to move here and then #####es about the way things are, but this is not #####ing about "every little thing." When somebody in your family gets hurt, you'll see the difference between 5 minute response time and 15 minute response time.

This is in no way an attack on the volunteers - they do a great job and I know how devoted most are to what they do. But is it possible - just possible - that maybe they are slightly hamstrung by the fact that they have other stuff to do besides just waiting for an emergency?

Did you ever stop to think that we are a rural county filled with farms and it's just not feasible to have a firehouse every three miles staffed with people?

 

[Toxick]

Thanks to your hubby for helping but something you have to understand. This isn't PG County (nor do we want it to be). That happens to be a very rural stretch of road and the nearest firehouse/ambulance is approximately 10 miles away. We are also an all volunteer county which means we don't have paid medics sitting around waiting for a call. To get there in 15 minutes was pretty good!

St. Marys is a small county and we don't have a cop on every corner (as is needed in crime ridden PG County). 5 minutes to that area for a cop was a great response time.

Given the situation you describe, it may not be indicitive of lollygagging or procrastination, and may in fact, be better than average or even recordbreaking time.

That said, 15 minutes is plenty of time to bleed out and die, even if you don't have a gushing corotid or femoral artery.

Therefore it's a completely sucky response time.


Not unexpected, and one of the drawbacks of country-livin' - however, I would still be extremely hard pressed to call a first-on-scene response time of 5 minutes "great".

 

[G1G4]

You know, I'd normally jump on the bandwagon to trash somebody that chooses to move here and then #####es about the way things are, but this is not #####ing about "every little thing." When somebody in your family gets hurt, you'll see the difference between 5 minute response time and 15 minute response time.

This is in no way an attack on the volunteers - they do a great job and I know how devoted most are to what they do. But is it possible - just possible - that maybe they are slightly hamstrung by the fact that they have other stuff to do besides just waiting for an emergency?

DING DING DING. This is what I was trying to get at why paid personnel wouldn't work out here. We cannot have a crew of four guys sitting down in the Seventh during the daytime hours, when the Seventh might run ten or fifteen calls a month -- if they're lucky. When you volunteer, you have certain responsibilities you have to abide by and follow through with when you join up. You have to make a certain percentage of the calls, do a certain percentage of collateral, etc etc. If you bring paid guys in here, 4 guys at 8 stations = 32 hires. Winds up to be alot of money. Charles County is (sort of) going through the same situation. They started their paramedic and paid EMS system up because they thought it would cure their response time problems as well. Now, they're furloughing paramedics and EMS personnel because the county is going bankrupt. Response times are greatly increasing, but volunteers are picking the slack up in Charles County.
That said, it didn't take fifteen minutes for the first person to get to the scene of this particular incident. From the time of dispatch, the assistant county fire chief was on the scene within three minutes. He can render aid, because he should be carrying a medical kit with him.
Rest assured, if information is received and relayed to the stations and members that are responding that it is a critical injury -- such as bleeding out, not breathing, etc etc help will show up quickly. I have never, ever once heard anything fail on a CPR in Progress or One Not or Possibly Not Breathing. They might not get out until the challenge time (which is 5 minutes), but it gets out.

 

[Baja28]

Given the situation you describe, it may not be indicitive of lollygagging or procrastination, and may in fact, be better than average or even recordbreaking time.

That said, 15 minutes is plenty of time to bleed out and die, even if you don't have a gushing corotid or femoral artery.

Therefore it's a completely sucky response time.

Not unexpected, and one of the drawbacks of country-livin' - however, I would still be extremely hard pressed to call a first-on-scene response time of 5 minutes "great".

You're kidding right? Cops do not arrive on the scene anywhere in 5 minutes unless they happen to be right there when a call comes in.

To arrive on that section of 234 within 5 minutes was absolutely great. he was obviously in the area. Johnny Cusic lives right there so maybe it was him.

I've worked all over the DC metro area and cops are not just hanging out within 5 minutes of every location. Anyone who believes that is living in la la land.

In fact, I watched an EMS crew on Connecticut Ave. in DC go to the wrong building (after waiting 10 min. for them to arrive) then take another 10 min. to come out of the wrong building, walk across the street to the correct building where an electrician had just been fried.

Yall can sing the praises of the almighty big cities all you want but I'll take my local boys and girls any day.

 

[Toxick]

You're kidding right? Cops do not arrive on the scene anywhere in 5 minutes unless they happen to be right there when a call comes in.

Oops... That was supposed to say "15" minutes. Referring to the ambulance. Not the cop.

Also, my post was not meant to denegrate or put down anyone. As I said, it's one of the drawbacks of living in the sticks, and a simple fact of life. But even so, fifteen minutes is still a long time to wait for medical attention when your life is draining out through a hole in your body. Or if it's happening to a loved one.



And I would never


EVER

sing the praises of living in DC.



Tucson - maybe. DC. Nuh-uh.

 

[Baja28]

Oops... That was supposed to say "15" minutes. Referring to the ambulance. Not the cop.

Also, my post was not meant to denegrate or put down anyone. As I said, it's one of the drawbacks of living in the sticks, and a simple fact of life. But even so, fifteen minutes is still a long time to wait for medical attention when your life is draining out through a hole in your body. Or if it's happening to a loved one.

And I would never

EVER

sing the praises of living in DC.

Tucson - maybe. DC. Nuh-uh.

Ahhhh... ok. I was confused since you're usually the voice of reason.

Yes 15 minutes is a long time. Little miss mmesser0 doesn't understand the concept of travel distance down here and her continued use of the words "ridiculous" and "fail" proves her ignorance.

 

[G1G4]

Ahhhh... ok. I was confused since you're usually the voice of reason.

Yes 15 minutes is a long time. Little miss mmesser0 doesn't understand the concept of travel distance down here and her continued use of the words "ridiculous" and "fail" proves her ignorance.

Dependant upon where she lives in Mechanicsville, I hope she never sees an accident on Mt. Wolf Road and then gets surprised when Charles Squad 2 and EMS 2 (Hughesville) are first on the scene.

 

[Roxie04]

The problem I had with her falling asleep was her 8/9yr old son TOLD my husband that his mother said she was very tired but had to go somewhere/do something. The 8/9yr old CHILD told his MOTHER do not drive, your too tired, go take a nap. She didn't listen to her own son, and look what happened. THAT's what I have a problem with.

Do you listen to your 9 years old kid when they tell you to do something? I am sure she got in the car KNOWING she would fall asleep and put her kids lives at risk.

 

[bohman]

Did you ever stop to think that we are a rural county filled with farms and it's just not feasible to have a firehouse every three miles staffed with people?

Really? Damn, I guess I've been here 13 years and never noticed.

My point was simply that a lot of people here took mmesser0's criticism very personally, when I think she wasn't criticizing the people who do the work, she was criticizing the system in place.

And what's wrong with that? If you stick your head in the sand and decide that nothing could ever be better than it is now, then you're right - it never will.

 

[Baja28]

Really? Damn, I guess I've been here 13 years and never noticed.

My point was simply that a lot of people here took mmesser0's criticism very personally, when I think she wasn't criticizing the people who do the work, she was criticizing the system in place.

And what's wrong with that? If you stick your head in the sand and decide that nothing could ever be better than it is now, then you're right - it never will.

Well I've been here 48 years and take great notice.

mmesser0's criticism was very condenscending. She sounds like some out of towner just chomping at the bit to rag on the local podunk system when she doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground.

She's lucky it was late afternoon and people were off or coming from work. Maybe she should witness an accident there say around 1:00pm on a weekday and see how long the response time is. She'd blow her bowels out in a fit.

It's not a matter of having your head in the sand, it's understanding that these departments are some of the best in the country with the latest equipment. The population dictates where firehouses are built.

If you're familiar with that section of 234 (and I think you are) you know there will never be a fire house in that neck of the woods. The population just does not support it.

If you or mmesser0 or anyone else have a better idea, lets hear it. And stay the hell out of my bank account with your ideas too!!

 

[sockgirl77]

Well I've been here 48 years!!

 

[Pete]

That said, 15 minutes is plenty of time to bleed out and die, even if you don't have a gushing corotid or femoral artery.

Therefore it's a completely sucky response time.

This is why I apply tourniquets to my arms, legs and neck every morning, loosely of course. If I unexpectedly sever an artery the tourniquet is already there, I just have to tighten it.