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aps45819

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
_MightyMouse_ said:
Either that or just enjoy people not appreciating nor looking at your bike since it has no appeal. Oh and BTW, it seems as though you chopstick users are jumping on the bandwagon by copying the looks of a Harley so that more ppl will buy them. :whistle:
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Why the hell do I care what some goober walking by on the street thinks about my bike? Hell I think it's about the most God awful ugly thing I've ever seen running on 2 wheels.
It's so dam ugly I have to ride it all the time so I don't have to look at it. :lol:
Good thing it's fast smooth and reliable.

Have to agree that Harley stying defines the cruiser class of motorcycle. Haveing owned several "cruisers", I figured it was time to quit worrying about other peoples opinions and get what worked best for me.

p.s. while you're shining chrome, I'll be riding.
 
Ponytail

Ponytail

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itsbob said:
BMW R bikes are aircooled and meet all emmision requirements.. they take a hit in performance, but they have a three way catalytic converter that makes it one of the cleanest machines on the road (compared to cars and trucks)
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Oh yea...Buells...meet CA emissions requirements WITHOUT catylist. :yay:
 
Pete

Pete

Repete
itsbob said:
I'd love to see Harley come out with a 4 cylinder sport bike and show the world American Ingenuity and Engineering can compete with anything the Japanese or the Germans can put out (using less then 10,000 cc). As it is now, it has the appearance that they know they can't compete so why bother trying.

I would like to think there is an engineer in Harley SOMEwhere that can design a true superbike that would rock the world of motorcycling.

BMW broke all of their rules just to show they could compete with Suzuki and Kawasaki. I would love to see a K1200S type of ride with a Harley log on it. There's nothing wrong with keeping the classic bike, the BIG V-Twin, but give us something else too.
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I think they took the other tac and just have marketed the living hell out of the old tried and true. It is not like they have trouble selling what they make now. :shrug: Being made in America increasing their foot print in manufacturing and new models would cause a huge increase in complexity. Besides they introduced the V Rod and added Buell for the sport bike crowd.

Think about it, 1 engine, common among a dozen or so bikes that all share a ton of common parts. Henry Ford would smile.
 
aps45819

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
_MightyMouse_ said:
Honda's were originally manufactured in Ohio? So I'm guessing that Suzuki's are manufactured in CT and Yamaha's in KS now too?
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Actually, it's Kawasaki's that are made in KS :lol:
 
aps45819

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Pete said:
Think about it, 1 engine, common among a dozen or so bikes that all share a ton of common parts. Henry Ford would smile.
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and the Buell is the 1200cc sporster engine
 
Ponytail

Ponytail

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itsbob said:
I'd love to see Harley come out with a 4 cylinder sport bike and show the world American Ingenuity and Engineering can compete with anything the Japanese or the Germans can put out (using less then 10,000 cc). As it is now, it has the appearance that they know they can't compete so why bother trying.

I would like to think there is an engineer in Harley SOMEwhere that can design a true superbike that would rock the world of motorcycling.

BMW broke all of their rules just to show they could compete with Suzuki and Kawasaki. I would love to see a K1200S type of ride with a Harley log on it. There's nothing wrong with keeping the classic bike, the BIG V-Twin, but give us something else too.
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Have you seen the Buell XB12RR? It's a work in progress sort of thing... but they're getting close. :yay:

And anymore...it is American inginuity that keeps improving the big 3 imports on the race track...at least for awhile yet. Even Boeing contracts some of their engineering design work over seas because of $$$.
 
Ponytail

Ponytail

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aps45819 said:
and the Buell is the 1200cc sporster engine
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Not quite. It USED to be the same. Now very few parts are interchangeable. Sportsters don't make 100+ HP at the rear wheel off the showroom floor.
 
Pete

Pete

Repete
aps45819 said:
and the Buell is the 1200cc sporster engine
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There are actually what 4 engines? 883, 1200, 96 (A&B) and the V Rod. For the most part all the big bikes use the 96 is what I meant.
 
aps45819

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Pete said:
There are actually what 4 engines? 883, 1200, 96 (A&B) and the V Rod. For the most part all the big bikes use the 96 is what I meant.
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the 883 and 1200 are the same cases, different bores
 
itsbob

itsbob

I bowl overhand
_MightyMouse_ said:
Honda's were originally manufactured in Ohio?
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Not all Honda's, just the GoldWing.. it's been American made since it's debut. Started Manufacturing in 1980 in Ohio, and have been exported to Japan since 1988..

The GL1100, the first Gold Wing, came with an opposed 4 cylinder (Boxer) motor.
 
Ponytail

Ponytail

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Pete said:
There are actually what 4 engines? 883, 1200, 96 (A&B) and the V Rod. For the most part all the big bikes use the 96 is what I meant.
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And Buell is a separate entity from Harley. Yes, Harley owns 98% of Buell (it's complicated) I think but Buell is now feeding Harley it's performace R&D findings, which is why the Sporty IS so much more powerful now than the ol' 1200 Evo of just a few years ago. And the new conicle whatya mahoozits transmission in your big Harley?...came from Buell. :cool:
 
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_MightyMouse_

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itsbob said:
Not all Honda's, just the GoldWing.. it's been American made since it's debut. Started Manufacturing in 1980 in Ohio, and have been exported to Japan since 1988..

The GL1100, the first Gold Wing, came with an opposed 4 cylinder (Boxer) motor.
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Well shiver me timbers- I learned something new today :razz: Should Ohio even be considered a state now? ... j/k
 
Ponytail

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ylexot

ylexot

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aps45819 said:
Think it's cool they use the frame for a gas tank and the swing arm for an oil tank.
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I noticed the frame used as the gas tank, but not the swing arm as the oil tank. I wonder how that affects the suspension since oil movement could affect it and the added weight would affect the sprung weight. Might not be significant though.
 
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