Obama's National Speech in School

[Imthemom]

so far the school has not made any mention of the indoctrination into socialism on Tuesday.
Since its optional for the schools, maybe my daughters school is run by intelligent people that see the interloper for what he is and are not going to subject the children to his propaganda.

not to mention that the school she goes to is hardly filled with the non-learners that he is targeting with his speech.
Maybe they just realize that the parents are doing a good enough job without someone from a typically non parenting group trying to butt in.

Who are the non-learners you are talking about?

I think it is great that the President is taking time out of his very busy schedule to address our children. No other president has done this. Some people have nothing better to do than to complain about everything, which is pretty sad.

I must say that on my short time on this forum, I've have noticed several things. It's like being back in high school, but an over exaggerated high school. (cliques) It's especially disturbing when these are adults. You either write what they want or you get all these people writing bad things about you. Why????
It's time to grow up people!
I also must say that this is my last day on this forum; I think I'm a little to mature to be on here.
Okay, now you can start all of your angry letters. Bye!

 

[bcp]

Bye Bye now.

 

[havoc]

Who are the non-learners you are talking about?

I think it is great that the President is taking time out of his very busy schedule to address our children. No other president has done this. Some people have nothing better to do than to complain about everything, which is pretty sad.

I must say that on my short time on this forum, I've have noticed several things. It's like being back in high school, but an over exaggerated high school. (cliques) It's especially disturbing when these are adults. You either write what they want or you get all these people writing bad things about you. Why????
It's time to grow up people!
I also must say that this is my last day on this forum; I think I'm a little to mature to be on here.
Okay, now you can start all of your angry letters. Bye!

Actually, George Bush (the elder) did it in 1991.

 

[mAlice]

Who are the non-learners you are talking about?

I think it is great that the President is taking time out of his very busy schedule to address our children. No other president has done this. Some people have nothing better to do than to complain about everything, which is pretty sad.

I must say that on my short time on this forum, I've have noticed several things. It's like being back in high school, but an over exaggerated high school. (cliques) It's especially disturbing when these are adults. You either write what they want or you get all these people writing bad things about you. Why????
It's time to grow up people!
I also must say that this is my last day on this forum; I think I'm a little to mature to be on here.
Okay, now you can start all of your angry letters. Bye!

Buh-byeeee.

 

[Rosehaven]

Amazing

As has been noted:

The President wants to talk directly to kids about the importance of staying in school. That's all it is. There is nothing about socialism or why government should run a person's life.

I'm smart enough to know all this nonsense isn't based on racism---it is, instead, based on the same parade of ill-informed/fact-deprived banter that has taken over the discussion about health care.

I love the Internet but it sure has changed the landscape of discussion---BS looks just like Facts now.

 

[mAlice]

As has been noted:

The President wants to talk directly to kids about the importance of staying in school. That's all it is. There is nothing about socialism or why government should run a person's life.

I'm smart enough to know all this nonsense isn't based on racism---it is, instead, based on the same parade of ill-informed/fact-deprived banter that has taken over the discussion about health care.

I love the Internet but it sure has changed the landscape of discussion---BS looks just like Facts now.

I don't understand why so many people have a problem with parents taking issue with something they disapprove of or disagree on. Ill informed? Fact deprived? I don't think so. That's why they don't want their children to listen to him.

There is absolutely no way of knowing what this man is going to say to our kids.

 

[TBone]

Get over it.......

This is the first time in history that OUR U.S. President has addressed the children of this country. His message is not about policy. It's about staying in school and getting a good education. It's not about you and it's not about him, it's about our children; our future!

Get over it??? You get the *^$# over it.

I just moved my oldest to college last week and will be doing the same with my youngest in 7 years. I think I've done a damn good job raising my children. I don't need our so-called leader dictating to my children how they should be in school. I laid down and made my babies, I gave birth to my babies and I'll be damn if anybody else is going to preach to my kids. That is my job. If you were any kind of parent, you'd be taking the time to teach your children and not relying on your President.

Have a good day and may your children get a good education and set goals.

 

[Rosehaven]

Amazing Take 2

Then wouldn't it make sense to listen to what the President has to say to the children AND THEN decide if it was appropriate?

Of course that's impossible if you've already decided what the President is going to say. My mistake.

 

[mAlice]

Amazing Take 3

Then wouldn't it make sense to listen to what the President has to say to the children AND THEN decide if it was appropriate?

Of course that's impossible if you've already decided what the President is going to say. My mistake.

It's not his job to tell our children to stay in school. Maybe if he were doing his job, instead of making appearances every other day, more people would be inclined to expose their children to him. Maybe if he were any good at his job, more people would be inclined to expose their children to him.

Right now all we see is a radical racist trying to turn our country into Oceana.

 

[TBone]

It's not his job to tell our children to stay in school. Maybe if he were doing his job, instead of making appearances every other day, more people would be inclined to expose their children to him. Maybe if he were any good at his job, more people would be inclined to expose their children to him.

Right now all we see is a radical racist trying to turn our country into Oceana.

You are so right. There are bigger things out in this world that needs to be fixed and he should be focusing his attention on these matters, not pushing my children. It's totally not his job!

 

[bcp]

I just think of him as a disgusting vile individual, I would prefer he not speak to children.
He might be better recieved in Iran or something.

 

[USWWarrior]

The times have really gotten bad

I don't :shrug:

1. He IS the president whether I like it or not.

2. It is not a policy speech it is a "Don't be a loser and learn" massage.

3. Kids waste more time a daily wondering how many txt messages they have and if they need a new can of Axe than Obama will waste.

4. People who freak about every little stupid thing are tedious and I don't want to be tedious.

Pete, You are 100% correct.

Now let me lay the foundation to my thoughts:

1. I did not vote for him
2. I do not agree with his presidency
3. I do not agree with his policies
4. I do not agree with his economic direction for this country
5. I do not agree with his foreign policy
6. I cant stand his socialism ways
7. I think he is tearing this country apart further and not bringing it together
8. I believe he is a racist (Oh gosh, does that make me a Glenn Beck supporter?)

BUT with all that said: He is the president and addressing the children should never be a bad thing. Let him speak. If it turns out to be a policy speech, then rip him apart.

As a parent, i will discuss his speech with my child openly and candidly. That is what parenting is in my book. Not shielding them from someone/something because you disagree with them/it.

And by the way, he is NOT the first president to do this. He is the third. In fact when Bush elder did it, the far left cried and whined. Much like the far right is doing now.

Pete, your final point is what drives me crazy. we have become a society of whiners and crybabies.

Lastly and to repeat one of my points, if he uses the speech to the school children as a pulpit for policy or even healthcare. Then let him hang by his words. (oh gosh, does that make me a racists because I put the word hang with a bi-racial individual).

 

[Mama_Mia08]

I am looking at the whole picture here. As long as he is ONLY speaking about school and not bringing in policy or his own beliefs I am fine with it. Children regardless of their parents beliefs will love it. The younger ones especially bc they'll feel like he is talking to them. I don't think it is a bad thing.

I did not vote for him, do not agree with what he has done and is going to do, but he is still the President and deserves respect. That is what we are teaching our 8 year old. Children should be taught both demo and republican views so when they get older they can make informed decisions. I am Republican and my husband is a Demo so our dinner conversations at times are interesting to say the least, lol.

This speech IMO has nothing to do with what is going on with his policies. The only time kids really get the chance to see him on TV is when he is on the news and the younger kids and most HS kids don't understand all the policy issues. This speech will be something they understand and can relate to.

 

[clevalley]

Pete, You are 100% correct.

Now let me lay the foundation to my thoughts:

1. I did not vote for him
2. I do not agree with his presidency
3. I do not agree with his policies
4. I do not agree with his economic direction for this country
5. I do not agree with his foreign policy
6. I cant stand his socialism ways
7. I think he is tearing this country apart further and not bringing it together
8. I believe he is a racist (Oh gosh, does that make me a Glenn Beck supporter?)

BUT with all that said: He is the president and addressing the children should never be a bad thing. Let him speak. If it turns out to be a policy speech, then rip him apart.

As a parent, i will discuss his speech with my child openly and candidly. That is what parenting is in my book. Not shielding them from someone/something because you disagree with them/it.

And by the way, he is NOT the first president to do this. He is the third. In fact when Bush elder did it, the far left cried and whined. Much like the far right is doing now.

Pete, your final point is what drives me crazy. we have become a society of whiners and crybabies.

Lastly and to repeat one of my points, if he uses the speech to the school children as a pulpit for policy or even healthcare. Then let him hang by his words. (oh gosh, does that make me a racists because I put the word hang with a bi-racial individual).

I came back to this thread to further expand on my earlier thoughts, it looks like you hit my key points (and a few others) so their is no need for me to drive this even further.

 

[itsbob]

I don't :shrug:

1. He IS the president whether I like it or not.

2. It is not a policy speech it is a "Don't be a loser and learn" massage.

3. Kids waste more time a daily wondering how many txt messages they have and if they need a new can of Axe than Obama will waste.

4. People who freak about every little stupid thing are tedious and I don't want to be tedious.

I was against it at first, because I was led to believe it was going to be a "Health Care REform is for you, our children"..

If it's a "do good in school, and the sky is the limit" speech.. than I'm all for it.

I mean, he IS the President, and him telling all the kids, Stay in schoo. work hard, and look at the possibilities.. Well, how can I have a problem with that?

 

[AeroTaken]

I wouldn't have had a problem with his "stay in school and learn" speech if it hadn't been for the post-speech assignments that were to be handed out to our children (2 different assignments - elementary to middle school and high school). And yes, I know that these assignments have changed NOW, but initially the elementary kids were to write a paper on basically what they could do to help our president. I don't remember exactly what the older kids were to write about, but it was more detailed than that. Teachers were to collect and save them. Then hand them back to the kids months later to write about what actions they have taken to fulfill these "promises" they made. They were given to the federal board of ed by the "administration" to be sent out to all the state school boards. Of course now those assignments have changed slightly after people found out what was being asked of their kids.

Am I the only one to see something VERY wrong with those assignments? It reminds me of walking through the Holocaust museum in DC and reading/seeing all the childrens books, pamphlets, school lessons, etc. that were being taught in the schools in Germany LONG before all the atrocities started happening in that country.

 

[USWWarrior]

The issue is not the Presidents talk then

I wouldn't have had a problem with his "stay in school and learn" speech if it hadn't been for the post-speech assignments that were to be handed out to our children (2 different assignments - elementary to middle school and high school). And yes, I know that these assignments have changed NOW, but initially the elementary kids were to write a paper on basically what they could do to help our president. I don't remember exactly what the older kids were to write about, but it was more detailed than that. Teachers were to collect and save them. Then hand them back to the kids months later to write about what actions they have taken to fulfill these "promises" they made. They were given to the federal board of ed by the "administration" to be sent out to all the state school boards. Of course now those assignments have changed slightly after people found out what was being asked of their kids.

Am I the only one to see something VERY wrong with those assignments? It reminds me of walking through the Holocaust museum in DC and reading/seeing all the childrens books, pamphlets, school lessons, etc. that were being taught in the schools in Germany LONG before all the atrocities started happening in that country.

This is the first I have heard about assignements such as this. I will make sure I ask my high schooler what assignment she gets from this.

I have not formulated an opinion yet about the assignments, but on the surface, I think your issue is with the schools hadnling of the assignment and not the speech itself. IMHO, that is a different issue altogether.

 

[itsbob]

Get over it.......

This is the first time in history that OUR U.S. President has addressed the children of this country. His message is not about policy. It's about staying in school and getting a good education. It's not about you and it's not about him, it's about our children; our future!

Get your facts straight.. THis is NOT the first time a President has addressed students and children.

Obama doesn't have a single original idea in that big head of his.

 

[Cletus_Vandam]

As a parent....

.... would any of you let your children watch a movie without knowing ahead the rating of that movie was?

Similar story here. oBama can say all he wants about what his message is going to be. I would bet a month's salary that his original intention was to somehow "persuade" the children to thinking that gov run health care and supporting the "leader" was a prerequisite for this nation succeeding. I'll still bet that a similar, more subtle way of getting this message across will be included in his message.

Does anyone else see the irony of him asking for support from the generation of tomorrow and tomorrow's tomorrow generation after his creating such a national debt that they will all be paying for it until they die? I heard something yesterday that the standard of living for the next generation will be something like 30% lower then today because of this incredibly huge ridiculous spending.....

 

[AeroTaken]

This is the first I have heard about assignements such as this. I will make sure I ask my high schooler what assignment she gets from this.

I have not formulated an opinion yet about the assignments, but on the surface, I think your issue is with the schools hadnling of the assignment and not the speech itself. IMHO, that is a different issue altogether.

Actually my issue is with the TRUE INTENT of the speech. Those assignments were developed by the Administration to go along with his speech, and when initially planned were to be done at the conclusion of the speech. While all the little kids were still awe struck that the Pres was talking to them and the older kids, well they're still worrying about their missed text messages during school. And then to tell them NOW that these papers will be given back to you months from now to see what they have followed through on. Its using guilt tactics IMO. It just reeks of brainwashing (indoctrination) IMO, so yes I do have a problem with the speech itself. Had the speech just been planned as a stand alone short "pep talk" with no assignments and no politics/policies then I may not have had a problem with it.