Parental Differences/Disagreement

[smoothmarine187]

That's NOT the point of discussion.
The kids on meds.
Daddy abruptly stops them. That's BAD for the kid.

yes, your right! He shoud go through the proper channels and try and get the decision to have her medicated reversed!

 

[happyappygirl]

Have all that but he behaves differently when he's with me. I've had folks express suprise when they find out it's the same kid after seeing him when he's with his mom (including one doctor). Mom gets excited and loses her temper. For some reason, she doesn't understand it when he emulates her.

that's too bad Apps. sounds like counseling could help him sort that mess out. Really, i do think BOTH pediatricians should work together when there are issues like this. they are unbiased and objective,and it's what is in the best interest of the child, regardless of what the parents feel for each other.

i'm not an advocate for medication either, BUT, when a parent has gone through as much trouble as crabby...and done the right thing for HER child, the other parent is definately neglectful to not respect that effort, and get his own opinion from his OWN pediatrician, then the two can work together, it's what ultimately best for the child. Crabby knows the ultimate goal is to get her daughter OFF the meds, by TEACHING her ways to deal with things, and the meds are really a short term thing (hopefully). She has had all the right docs involved in this decision, including counseling!!

 

[smoothmarine187]

It had nothing to do with the teacher and everything to do with the child.
Just because your child thought the teacher was boring did not give him the right to not take the class seriously.

I know, and I used good old fashioned discipline on him.........not drugs!

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

Let me tell you somthin, all dat my son be knowin is that Im a business man. I leaves the crib in a suit, and I comes back home in a suit. I roll in a big bolla Escalade, my bladez probly cost more than your car!

God you are so pathetic. Do you think anyone is really buying your stupid shait? So now we have a bunch of gangsta wannabe MPD's? Whats next the hispanic invasion?

 

[smoothmarine187]

that's too bad Apps. sounds like counesling will help him sort that mess out. Really, i do think BOTH pediatricians should work together when there are issues like this. they are unbiased and objective,and it's what is in the best interest of the child, regardless of what the parents feel for each other.

Now, here's my point.....what if APS was Crabcakes Ex-husband.....? Now your agreeing with both sides of the arguement!

 

[happyappygirl]

I know, and I used good old fashioned discipline on him.........not drugs!

doesn't sound like it worked, he had a rotten year, when you could have simply removed him from the antagonism. Do you spend quality time with people you don't like?
AND the poor kid prolly blamed the teacher, hence he acted out when he was there.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

I'm skipping all of it and just loading my son full of morphine and home schooling him. that way he will never endure any hardships or have to learn any discipline. Maybe that will make me the worlds #1 dad! I think I'm going to buy one of those shirts right now!

Yeah you do that. People like you are that way because you hate the fact of someone knowing more than you do and you have to be in control.
Your signaure says it all. You think "toughing" it out makes you more of a man? Good going tough guy. Suffer from mommy issues are you?

Being a good parent is making sure that your child gets what is best for them, and that may require doing things that you may not agree on.

If the child had diabetes would you deny him his meds?

 

[happyappygirl]

Now, here's my point.....what if APS was Crabcakes Ex-husband.....? Now your agreeing with both sides of the arguement!

crabby's kid has had counseling, along with peadiatric/medical help. I don't know if Apps kid has had counselling. I think most kids who are in the middle of a break up need some sort of counselling to deal with what's happening unfortunately. that crap comes with a lot of baggage for kids. many kids blame it on themselves. then shift blame depending on which parent they are with at the moment...it's so sad.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

If you tell a kid over and over again that they need it, they are eventually going to believe it! its not really difficult to figure out.

ohhh so your answer to my question is you don't have anything to back your statments up.

So if you tell your son over and over again he can fly he will take off?

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

I would get second opionions and fight it, I don't care how much the court costs are.

Nothing wrong with second or third opinions but what if they all come back the same, will you say that the child does not need the medicine?

 

[crabcake]

do you have full custody or joint?

Joint legal with primary physical ....

 

[smoothmarine187]

Yeah you do that. People like you are that way because you hate the fact of someone knowing more than you do and you have to be in control.
Your signaure says it all. You think "toughing" it out makes you more of a man? Good going tough guy. Suffer from mommy issues are you?

Being a good parent is making sure that your child gets what is best for them, and that may require doing things that you may not agree on.

If the child had diabetes would you deny him his meds?

Last time I checked ADHD wasn't a life threating disease, although thats what most people like you think! yes, I do raise my boys up to be tough, I'm not going to bring them up to be little sissies like most of the kids I see these days.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

Exactly! Its all about the person teaching/raising them.

really? SO I ask you again to back up your statements with at least some case studies. Back up what you are saying with some proof.

 

[stormer41]

I could understand if she had some terminal illness and she had to take the medication or she would become very sick, but this is only for ADHD. If my X-wife put my kids on that crap, I wouldn't give it to them either. She only thinks she needs to be on it now, because of you and other doctors telling her that she needs it.

I agree with you....I think some people forget what it was like to be a kid...we all got hyper sometimes...that's just part of growing up. But when we got out of hand our parents dealt with it in their own way... and if that meant getting backhanded or getting you a** beat...it worked...you acted better and knew not to talk back to your parents in a smart way. When my brother was going thru college to get his MD License, he had the a chance to work with kids that were on this crap.
He said the kids ages where from 3 up to 17...and only one of them really needed this medication...he had alot of problems...and was not allowed to have too much interation with the other kids. All the other kids where just regular kids...it's the parents that don't know how to handle them. Btw...that's his saying not mine...but I agree with him. He told me that the parents would come in and drop their kids off at the office and tell him if they get a little rowdy...just give them their medication so they will be quite, they are just always so noisy.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

Dumb ass, I'm agreeing with you. The parents can't handle the children so they take them to a doctor. Then the doctors and the parents lead the children to believe that they need the medication. Eventually the child will think that he/she needs to be medicated in order to function normally.

How many kids do you have?

 

[smoothmarine187]

Nothing wrong with second or third opinions but what if they all come back the same, will you say that the child does not need the medicine?

Once they observed how the child acted around me, they wouldn't think he needed medication. Its all about parenting.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

yes, your right! He shoud go through the proper channels and try and get the decision to have her medicated reversed!

You are crazy. You do not care what is best for the child only that you prove your point. Get a clue.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

I know, and I used good old fashioned discipline on him.........not drugs!

okay so then that must mean all kids do not need medication right? What works for one (and that is still in question) then it works for all.

 

[crabcake]

Exactly! Its all about the person teaching/raising them.

It's the PERCEPTION (or perseprion, depending on your intellect level ) of the persons raising them. Their beliefs influence them a lot, as well.

If you THINK ADHD doesn't need medication, then I guess you don't think heart disease or any other medical problem requires medication.

 

[smoothmarine187]

You are crazy. You do not care what is best for the child only that you prove your point. Get a clue.

I do want what is best for the child and drugs are not it!