PG County Officer Killer Found Dead in Jail Cell

[MMDad]

I definitely DO NOT WANT the legal system to award the punk mother phucker's family a friggin dime because their drug-slinging, bank robbing, gun-toing, POLICE OFFICER KILLING son was retaliated upon. Any grandstanding lawyer who takes this should have a nice afternoon tea with arsenic and biscuits.

A lawyer will take the case, they'll win, and the check will be very large.

I hope this case convinces O'Malley to start capital punishment again. The person who did this deserves to die.

 

[cattitude]

As I read the case unfold, I WANTED the kid's death to be natural or due to withdrawal of drugs, etc.

I suspected the temptation would be too great for a PG prisoner, who KILLED A PG POLICE OFFICER, being held in a Max. Security - one room in a large facility - in a large PG Correctional Complex - with only a few hands a day running past the prisoner, would lead to no good.

All of the statements about the actions of one puts a dark shadow on all the force is right. Men in blue are our street soldiers, so to speak. It's a brotherhood - and more likely a few took vigilante and revenge or even eye for an eye action.

Unfortunately, the "kid" should have been taken out of jurisdiction. May or may not have helped, but emotionally charged bretheren seem to want to take care of business. Can't say I wouldn't feel the same. :shrug:

I definitely DO NOT WANT the legal system to award the punk mother phucker's family a friggin dime because their drug-slinging, bank robbing, gun-toing, POLICE OFFICER KILLING son was retaliated upon. Any grandstanding lawyer who takes this should have a nice afternoon tea with arsenic and biscuits.

I watched the press conference last night..or some of it. He was not with the general inmate population but in a holding cell while awaiting transfer to another location..(out of the county I believe they said). There were no video cameras. I got the distinct impression from Johnson and the chief of police that they are passing the blame to the detention facility.

 

[Larry Gude]

That's...

I definitely DO NOT WANT the legal system to award the punk mother phucker's family a friggin dime because their drug-slinging, bank robbing, gun-toing, POLICE OFFICER KILLING son was retaliated upon. Any grandstanding lawyer who takes this should have a nice afternoon tea with arsenic and biscuits.

...the larger issue; This guy was a menace to society. What are the chances his family raised him right, to be responsible and to be law abiding and he simply refused the lessons? Even if so, why should they benefit, in any way, from his demise if they are responsible for his teaching and that teaching lead to this? Maybe they didn't do a good enough job. Maybe he was just a bad seed. Maybe it's all societies fault.

That still does not make a just case for anyone benefiting from his demise.
His story is over. It's done. The only thing left now is holding those responsible, if anyone, for not following the rules, same as this kid.

That said, being a menace and getting rid of one are not, as a matter of fairness, the same threat to society.

 

[RareBreed]

One of our Deputies here where I work says he was put in a cell with no cameras nearby. Appears that one of the Deputies did the deed to the guy. The guy should have never gone to PG Jail. We send prisoner to neighboring jurisdiction's jail so that the "temptation" would not be there for our Deputies/Officers to "off" the guy.

But.. with that being said, Thank you Deputy "Noname" for taking out the garbage!

 

[Pandora]

33 hours later, and after a medical exam? Wouldn't the autopsy see the difference?

It is very possible and an autopsy will tell if the injury was recent or not. I just hate the thought that this scum cop killer’s family could bank anything on his death.

Even if the injury was a result of his arrest 33 hours before, they will still claim that law enforcement should have known he needed medical attention and from the looks of the picture and the crimes he committed, there is no doubt in my mind, the guy was a junkie. Of course, none of that will matter and we the tax payers will pay dearly for this. Like Bre already mentioned, the cost will be vastly greater.

 

[bresamil]

It is very possible and an autopsy will tell if the injury was recent or not. I just hate the thought that this scum cop killer’s family could bank anything on his death.

Even if the injury was a result of his arrest 33 hours before, they will still claim that law enforcement should have known he needed medical attention and from the looks of the picture and the crimes he committed, there is no doubt in my mind, the guy was a junkie. Of course, none of that will matter and we the tax payers will pay dearly for this. Like Bre already mentioned, the cost will be vastly greater.

Oh yes. The public will be paying much more now than they would have if we'd house him doing time for the crime.
Whoever did this just brought themselves down to the same level as the prisoner. Maybe even lower if you consider that THIS was premeditated and they'll argue that running down Findley was a "panic" action.

 

[Mdcopswife]

That could still be self inflicted, but it's not sounding good. Man, this pisses me off.

Pisses you off. Call me cruel, and I know my reaction to this is emotional because he was someone I knew personally, but I hope that bastard suffered.
Does not make it right but I still hope he suffered!

 

[shiki]

Wow...this is America right? This guy was charged, not found guilty. Some douchebag committed a lynching basically and I see why he might feel he was entitled for all the calls for blood. I still believe in American justice, and that has nothing to do with cops running around murdering people.

 

[Mdcopswife]

Wow...this is America right? This guy was charged, not found guilty. Some douchebag committed a lynching basically and I see why he might feel he was entitled for all the calls for blood. I still believe in American justice, and that has nothing to do with cops running around murdering people.

I believe this was done at the hands of a corrections officer not a police officer. At least that is what was said last night during the press conference.

 

[cattitude]

Wow...this is America right? This guy was charged, not found guilty. Some douchebag committed a lynching basically and I see why he might feel he was entitled for all the calls for blood. I still believe in American justice, and that has nothing to do with cops running around murdering people.

What are you talking about?

 

[MMDad]

It is very possible and an autopsy will tell if the injury was recent or not. I just hate the thought that this scum cop killer’s family could bank anything on his death.

Even if the injury was a result of his arrest 33 hours before, they will still claim that law enforcement should have known he needed medical attention and from the looks of the picture and the crimes he committed, there is no doubt in my mind, the guy was a junkie. Of course, none of that will matter and we the tax payers will pay dearly for this. Like Bre already mentioned, the cost will be vastly greater.

He supposedly had a medical exam after the arrest and before being put in his cell. That leads me to believe that the arrest is not the cause of his injuries.

Didn't the autopsy say there were broken bones in the neck? I can't imagine a broken Hyoid bone not hurting enough to be noted by a doctor.

I think it's pretty evident that this happened in his cell.

As for his family and the $$$ - yes he was a thug, and he deserved the death penalty. But.... he did not deserve to die until he had been tried and convicted.

This is a real, true violation of his civil rights. Not because of his race (everyone thinks civil rights means race) but because he was deprived of due process. He was deprived of his right to defend himself, face his accusers, and be judged by a jury of his peers.

His family should not benefit from his crimes. But they will. Unless PG county can find a way to prove that this was somehow self inflicted, the family is going to collect millions.

Guess where that money is going to come from? PG sure doesn't have a surplus. They'll have to pay, that will leave a hole in their budget, and the state will have to bail them out. We get to pay. Yipee.

 

[shiki]

I believe this was done at the hands of a corrections officer not a police officer. At least that is what was said last night during the press conference.

whoever did it, it's wrong.

 

[Pandora]

He supposedly had a medical exam after the arrest and before being put in his cell. That leads me to believe that the arrest is not the cause of his injuries.

Didn't the autopsy say there were broken bones in the neck? I can't imagine a broken Hyoid bone not hurting enough to be noted by a doctor.

I think it's pretty evident that this happened in his cell.

As for his family and the $$$ - yes he was a thug, and he deserved the death penalty. But.... he did not deserve to die until he had been tried and convicted.

This is a real, true violation of his civil rights. Not because of his race (everyone thinks civil rights means race) but because he was deprived of due process. He was deprived of his right to defend himself, face his accusers, and be judged by a jury of his peers.

His family should not benefit from his crimes. But they will. Unless PG county can find a way to prove that this was somehow self inflicted, the family is going to collect millions.

Guess where that money is going to come from? PG sure doesn't have a surplus. They'll have to pay, that will leave a hole in their budget, and the state will have to bail them out. We get to pay. Yipee.

I was just reading an updated article posted just before 11 p.m. last night and they have ruled this offender's death a homicide.

Death of Pr. George's Co. inmate ruled a homicide

 

[cattitude]

I was just reading an updated article posted just before 11 p.m. last night and they have ruled this offender's death a homicide.

Death of Pr. George's Co. inmate ruled a homicide

Psstttt...they ruled it a homicide early yesterday....

 

[Pandora]

Psstttt...they ruled it a homicide early yesterday....

And it is obvious I didn't know that in my first response, last article I read yesterday afternoon didn't say that. I really didn't expect the medical examiner to release an opinion this soon.

 

[cattitude]

And it is obvious I didn't know that in my first response, last article I read yesterday afternoon didn't say that. I really didn't expect the medical examiner to release an opinion this soon.

The coroner's ruling was discussed earlier in this thread. There was a rather lengthy press conference related to the ruling and investigation last night at 9. The press conference was fairly interesting.

 

[Lenny]

33 hours later, and after a medical exam? Wouldn't the autopsy see the difference?

Technician: Any broken bones?

Kid: No

Technician: Bleeding anywhere?

Kid: silence

Technician: Anything you wanna tell me?

Kid: No

Technician: He's clean.

 

[Pandora]

The coroner's ruling was discussed earlier in this thread. There was a rather lengthy press conference related to the ruling and investigation last night at 9. The press conference was fairly interesting.

Thank you for making me feel like a dip shiat. I completely missed your updated post on this yesterday.

Lenny,

I know the scenario you are trying to say could have happened here but the coroner wouldn't have ruled it a homicide had that been remotely possible. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Lenny]

Thank you for making me feel like a dip shiat. I completely missed your updated post on this yesterday.

Lenny,

I know the scenario you are trying to say could have happened here but the coroner wouldn't have ruled it a homicide had that been remotely possible. Wouldn't you agree?

Homicide means he was killed. The Coroner did not rule it murder, however. Big difference that many don't understand.

 

[bohman]

I believe this was done at the hands of a corrections officer not a police officer. At least that is what was said last night during the press conference.

I understand that there is a difference between police & corrections, but the two are very closely related. And I'd venture to guess that in the eyes of the public, they are one and the same. If a corrections officer does something stupid, it's going to make the police look bad, too.

As some other folks already said, I don't feel too much pity for the deceased criminal, but this is still a very bad thing. It's not going to do good for anybody.