Larry Gude
Strung Out
Larry, are you by any chance following the conversation about quantum mechanics that your friend is leading on his FB?
Yes. It makes my head hurt.
Larry, are you by any chance following the conversation about quantum mechanics that your friend is leading on his FB?
And it is absolutely not the equivalent of a gun, or any other inanimate object.
But what the hell - never say die, right?
We buy guns. And dogs. We own guns. And dogs.
A pit bull, any dog, is a hell of a lot closer to being a gun than it is to being a person.
That is absurd.
You got custody of all the common sense... didn't you...
You got custody of all the common sense... didn't you...
We divided our possessions based on what we brought into the marriage.
We divided our possessions based on what we brought into the marriage.
I don't see Larry comparing dogs to guns. Read a lil harder Chris....
What I see is him comapring the same irrational, fear based argument that the anti-gun crowd has to the irrational fear that anti-pitbull folks have.
Anti-gun crowd sees shooting in the news, and thinks it happens all the time. When, in fact, it's pretty rare. Pits killing/mauling people is not rare. Do we have to keep re-hashing facts?? Pits kill people more than any other animal in the country!! End of story.
The same thing happens when an anti-pitbull person (as you self proclaim) sees a story in the news.
Oh the fun I can have here.... Ok I think I will.You can't have a pit the way you can just have some lap dog and you can't have a machine gun the way you can just have a shotgun. Why?? I treat my machine gun the same way I treat my shotgun. Same with lap dogs and pits.
And, you are defeating your own argument; "They don't get out of their secure enclosures unless someone lets them out." Ummmm.... yes they do get out of their secure enclosures. Regularly in fact.
If treated properly, pits are not murderous menaces OR there would be a LOT more injuries and dead people. Dude, read the story!! This pit was inside the home, a family pet, slept on the bed! In other words, very well treated for four years!!
Pits are dangerous. So is a full auto AK 47. If properly handled, neither is a threat to grandma. Tell the dead grannys family that. If mishandled, grandma gets shot or mauled. If pits were these killers, where are all the bodies in relation to their numbers? I'm with Bulldog... tic tic tic
Oh the fun I can have here.... Ok I think I will.
The Pit Bull breed makes up 5-9.6% of the United States dog population. In 2007, there were above 72 million dogs in the United States provided by American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. That’s between 3,600,000 and 6,912,000 Pit Bull breed dogs in the United States.
So, for our example we’ll take the average percent between 5 and 9.6, and use 7.3 percent, which would give an average estimation of the Pit Bull population in the United States. That leaves us with 5,256,000 Pit Bulls.
Other dog populations (United States):
(estimation) Pit Bulls: 5,256,000
(estimation) Rottweilers: 900,000
(estimation) German Shepherds: 780,000
(estimation) Chows: 240,000
Fatal attacks by these breeds of dogs (1979-1998):
Pit Bulls: 66
Rottweilers: 39
German Shepherds: 17
Chows: 8
When we divide the population by the fatal attacks, we can get a percentage based on the dogs probability of fatally attacking a human.
Pit Bulls: .00125 %
Rottweilers: .00433 %
German Shepherds: .00217%
Chow: .00333%
We divided our possessions based on what we brought into the marriage.
Statistically, what you're saying, just is not true.
And like the gun debate, this has nothing to do with facts and everything to do with feelings.
Exactly.
Personally, I don't care if someone doesn;t like pits. Hell, my MIL didn't liek them either (until she met mine).
What I don't want is some hood rat jackass being the face of my dog. I also don't want sweeping legislation based on a certain breed of dog.
Just like not every gun is bad, neither is every dog.
On one hand, you poeple want to argue that guns, in the wrong hands, is a bad thing, and legislation shouldn't be made to limit everyone else's right to own them. Yet, on the other hand, you have no problem yelling from the tree tops that all pitbulls are born killers, and they should all be legislated out of existance.
Given how much damage pits can do so quickly I would not oppose licensing for them. They are, after all, assault dogs.
Yep, if it didn't have DNA testing to prove it was purebred Pit, it doesn't count. Sorry but this argument is still just as lame today as it was when it was first made. If it will make you feel better, I will say "Pit bull type" from now on. Then you can't argue semantics.I know you don't care, but....
Just by you saying that you "see it in the news" is the same exact argument anti-gunners have. You see it in the news, and take it as gospel. Pitbulls are one of the most, if not the most mis-identified dog, so how can you take media reports as gospel? Considering there is no national recording for dog bites, I'm curious as to how you know that this breed is a born killer.
Born killers don't normally fit a description of having an extremely high passing rate of 82.6 percent of the Tempermant Test. Especially considering the fact that the average passing rate for the other 121 breeds of dogs tested was 77 percent. Pit bulls share their homes with all types of people – from celebrities to senators to everyday families like you and me. They work as search and rescue dogs, therapy dogs and service dogs, and they are our faithful companions and best friends. Again, not your typical "killer breed".
I've provided information from the National Canine Research Counsil (who researches, in depth, each dog bite related fatality every year) that proves that the media is wrong on the breed type very often. Yet you keep providing new stories as if it means something.
I know how much you like to use statistics in any of YOUR arguments, but here's something to think about.....
Statistically, what you're saying, just is not true.
And muslims are a peace loving bunch.And like the gun debate, this has nothing to do with facts and everything to do with feelings.
And muslims are a peace loving bunch.
Show that 82.6% temperament score to the grieving family of granny.
Dawn Brown Killed By Family Dog, Husband Comes Home To Find Her Dead In IllinoisA man was horrified to arrive home Monday and find that his wife had been killed by the family dog, which had been adopted just a week before.
Dawn Brown, 44, a volunteer firefighter in Illinois, was found dead in her Big Rock home. She had suffered bites to her neck, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Her husband Bob, also a firefighter, discovered her at 4:15 p.m., hours after the family's 140-pound mastiff attacked her. He called 911, and fellow firefighters responded...
Police are still trying to determine why the dog mauled her, but police say that the family's pit bull mix and boxer were not involved.
While his father slept in a nearby bedroom, a 2-month-old boy who had been napping was mauled Friday by the family's newly adopted dog.
The boy, Aiden McGrew, was apparently pulled from an infant's swing and his legs torn off by the golden retriever-Labrador mix inside the family's mobile home on Sandpit Road, authorities said.
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No my good man, YOU jumped the shark comparing a living, breathing dog to an inanimate object that cannot move unless handled by a human.And then, the shark was jumped. Proudly, with leather jacket flapping in the wind and a hearty 'Heeeeeeeeyyyy!' and a thumbs up as your argument slowly, silently, slips beneath the now calming waves.