Pitbulls for rehoming

Larry Gude

Strung Out
And it is absolutely not the equivalent of a gun, or any other inanimate object.

But what the hell - never say die, right? :yay:

:tap: Now you're just being obtuse.

A pit bull, any dog, is a hell of a lot closer to being a gun than it is to being a person.

We buy guns. And dogs. We own guns. And dogs.

BTW, did you hear the one about the put bull that walked into a bar and ordered a '15'?

Me neither. It's a dog.

:lmao:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
We buy guns. And dogs. We own guns. And dogs.

Dogs have free will; guns do not.

Broken down very simply, quantum mechanics is the study of how one infinitesimal particle can influence the behavior of something seemingly unrelated.

It is a possible explanation of how a dog can appear to be sleeping peacefully under a tree one minute, then suddenly lunge across the yard toward a child in whom he had no interest the second before. Something influenced that dog's behavior and he reacted. Nobody knows what, nor could it have been prevented.

Perhaps a butterfly flapped its wings in South America, creating turbulence that was felt on an atomic level by the dog, irritated him, and the first thing he saw upon sensing this disturbance was the child, whereupon his doggy mind associated the child with that disturbance.

Who knows.

Anyway, guns don't do that.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
I don't see Larry comparing dogs to guns. Read a lil harder Chris.... :lol:

What I see is him comapring the same irrational, fear based argument that the anti-gun crowd has to the irrational fear that anti-pitbull folks have.

Anti-gun crowd sees shooting in the news, and thinks it happens all the time. When, in fact, it's pretty rare. Pits killing/mauling people is not rare. Do we have to keep re-hashing facts?? Pits kill people more than any other animal in the country!! End of story.

The same thing happens when an anti-pitbull person (as you self proclaim) sees a story in the news.

You can't have a pit the way you can just have some lap dog and you can't have a machine gun the way you can just have a shotgun. Why?? I treat my machine gun the same way I treat my shotgun. Same with lap dogs and pits.

And, you are defeating your own argument; "They don't get out of their secure enclosures unless someone lets them out." Ummmm.... yes they do get out of their secure enclosures. Regularly in fact.

If treated properly, pits are not murderous menaces OR there would be a LOT more injuries and dead people. Dude, read the story!! This pit was inside the home, a family pet, slept on the bed! In other words, very well treated for four years!!
Oh the fun I can have here.... :lol: Ok I think I will. :biggrin:

Pits are dangerous. So is a full auto AK 47. If properly handled, neither is a threat to grandma. Tell the dead grannys family that. If mishandled, grandma gets shot or mauled. If pits were these killers, where are all the bodies in relation to their numbers? I'm with Bulldog... tic tic tic :popcorn:
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
Oh the fun I can have here.... :lol: Ok I think I will. :biggrin:

I know you don't care, but....

Just by you saying that you "see it in the news" is the same exact argument anti-gunners have. You see it in the news, and take it as gospel. Pitbulls are one of the most, if not the most mis-identified dog, so how can you take media reports as gospel? Considering there is no national recording for dog bites, I'm curious as to how you know that this breed is a born killer.

Born killers don't normally fit a description of having an extremely high passing rate of 82.6 percent of the Tempermant Test. Especially considering the fact that the average passing rate for the other 121 breeds of dogs tested was 77 percent. Pit bulls share their homes with all types of people – from celebrities to senators to everyday families like you and me. They work as search and rescue dogs, therapy dogs and service dogs, and they are our faithful companions and best friends. Again, not your typical "killer breed".

I've provided information from the National Canine Research Counsil (who researches, in depth, each dog bite related fatality every year) that proves that the media is wrong on the breed type very often. Yet you keep providing new stories as if it means something.

I know how much you like to use statistics in any of YOUR arguments, but here's something to think about.....

The Pit Bull breed makes up 5-9.6% of the United States dog population. In 2007, there were above 72 million dogs in the United States provided by American Pet Products Manufacturers Association. That’s between 3,600,000 and 6,912,000 Pit Bull breed dogs in the United States.

So, for our example we’ll take the average percent between 5 and 9.6, and use 7.3 percent, which would give an average estimation of the Pit Bull population in the United States. That leaves us with 5,256,000 Pit Bulls.

Other dog populations (United States):

(estimation) Pit Bulls: 5,256,000

(estimation) Rottweilers: 900,000

(estimation) German Shepherds: 780,000

(estimation) Chows: 240,000

Fatal attacks by these breeds of dogs (1979-1998):

Pit Bulls: 66

Rottweilers: 39

German Shepherds: 17

Chows: 8

When we divide the population by the fatal attacks, we can get a percentage based on the dogs probability of fatally attacking a human.

Pit Bulls: .00125 %

Rottweilers: .00433 %

German Shepherds: .00217%

Chow: .00333%

Statistically, what you're saying, just is not true.
 
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Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
And like the gun debate, this has nothing to do with facts and everything to do with feelings.

:buddies:

Exactly.

Personally, I don't care if someone doesn't like pits. I've met many, many people who came up to pet my dog, until they asked what she was. They swiftly turn away as if she's got swine flu. Obviously she didn't bite your hand off while you were petting her, nor did she rip your face off while you were "goo goo gaga-ing" in her face. Hell, my MIL didn't like them either (until she met mine). She's owned nothing but Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, and Brown Labs, and raves about how much smarter Xena is than any of her past dogs.

What I don't want is some hood rat jackass being the face of my dog. I also don't want sweeping legislation based on a certain breed of dog.

Just like not every gun is bad, neither is every dog.

On one hand, you poeple want to argue that guns, in the wrong hands, is a bad thing, and legislation shouldn't be made to limit everyone else's right to own them. Yet, on the other hand, you have no problem yelling from the tree tops that all pitbulls are born killers, and they should all be legislated out of existance.
 
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Larry Gude

Strung Out
Exactly.

Personally, I don't care if someone doesn;t like pits. Hell, my MIL didn't liek them either (until she met mine).

What I don't want is some hood rat jackass being the face of my dog. I also don't want sweeping legislation based on a certain breed of dog.

Just like not every gun is bad, neither is every dog.

On one hand, you poeple want to argue that guns, in the wrong hands, is a bad thing, and legislation shouldn't be made to limit everyone else's right to own them. Yet, on the other hand, you have no problem yelling from the tree tops that all pitbulls are born killers, and they should all be legislated out of existance.

Given how much damage pits can do so quickly I would not oppose licensing for them. They are, after all, assault dogs.

:lol:
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
I know you don't care, but....

Just by you saying that you "see it in the news" is the same exact argument anti-gunners have. You see it in the news, and take it as gospel. Pitbulls are one of the most, if not the most mis-identified dog, so how can you take media reports as gospel? Considering there is no national recording for dog bites, I'm curious as to how you know that this breed is a born killer.

Born killers don't normally fit a description of having an extremely high passing rate of 82.6 percent of the Tempermant Test. Especially considering the fact that the average passing rate for the other 121 breeds of dogs tested was 77 percent. Pit bulls share their homes with all types of people – from celebrities to senators to everyday families like you and me. They work as search and rescue dogs, therapy dogs and service dogs, and they are our faithful companions and best friends. Again, not your typical "killer breed".

I've provided information from the National Canine Research Counsil (who researches, in depth, each dog bite related fatality every year) that proves that the media is wrong on the breed type very often. Yet you keep providing new stories as if it means something.

I know how much you like to use statistics in any of YOUR arguments, but here's something to think about.....

Statistically, what you're saying, just is not true.
Yep, if it didn't have DNA testing to prove it was purebred Pit, it doesn't count. Sorry but this argument is still just as lame today as it was when it was first made. If it will make you feel better, I will say "Pit bull type" from now on. Then you can't argue semantics.

Show that 82.6% temperament score to the grieving family of granny.


And like the gun debate, this has nothing to do with facts and everything to do with feelings. :buddies:
And muslims are a peace loving bunch. :dye:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
And muslims are a peace loving bunch. :dye:

And then, the shark was jumped. Proudly, with leather jacket flapping in the wind and a hearty 'Heeeeeeeeyyyy!' and a thumbs up as your argument slowly, silently, slips beneath the now calming waves.

:buddies:
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
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Show that 82.6% temperament score to the grieving family of granny.

What are you going to tell these families?

A man was horrified to arrive home Monday and find that his wife had been killed by the family dog, which had been adopted just a week before.

Dawn Brown, 44, a volunteer firefighter in Illinois, was found dead in her Big Rock home. She had suffered bites to her neck, according to the Chicago Tribune.

Her husband Bob, also a firefighter, discovered her at 4:15 p.m., hours after the family's 140-pound mastiff attacked her. He called 911, and fellow firefighters responded...

Police are still trying to determine why the dog mauled her, but police say that the family's pit bull mix and boxer were not involved.
Dawn Brown Killed By Family Dog, Husband Comes Home To Find Her Dead In Illinois

While his father slept in a nearby bedroom, a 2-month-old boy who had been napping was mauled Friday by the family's newly adopted dog.

The boy, Aiden McGrew, was apparently pulled from an infant's swing and his legs torn off by the golden retriever-Labrador mix inside the family's mobile home on Sandpit Road, authorities said.
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Infant boy killed when mauled by family dog in Ridgeville as father slept – The Post and Courier

Just admit you have an irrational fear of these dogs because of what you see in the news.....now go google some more pitbull mauling stories...oh, and add a few smilies to it for the awe factor.....because we all know, no other big dog is capable of killing, only pits. :coffee:
 
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Baja28

Obama destroyed America
And then, the shark was jumped. Proudly, with leather jacket flapping in the wind and a hearty 'Heeeeeeeeyyyy!' and a thumbs up as your argument slowly, silently, slips beneath the now calming waves.

:buddies:
:lmao: No my good man, YOU jumped the shark comparing a living, breathing dog to an inanimate object that cannot move unless handled by a human. :buddies:
 
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