Pitt Bull Mix attacks 5 year old

[Softballkid]

RED - Pitt Bull Mix attacks 5... 05-02-2006 07:16 AM Complete Idiot!

Oh yes i'm an idiot for making this statement

They must own a Pomeranian

 

[huntr1]

them kind ya drop kick into the barn wall just like an aggressive rooster.

Neighbor had a minpin/chiwawa/ankle biter of some sort that was MEAN! The last time he came near me, he attacked me as soon as I stepped out of the car, and drew blood on my ankle, after biting thru my jeans and sock. He landed on the other side of the yard (50 feet or better) after I kicked him off my leg. This was not the first time he had met me either. I had been to the house probably 20-30 times before. He was so bad the UPS guy wouldn't even drive down the driveway until he had called the owner and said "ok, I am here, lock the little bastard up". Owners eventually gave him to a relative that had lots of property and no neighbors, kids or delivery people.

 

[cdsulhoff]

American Temperament Testing Society.
I have hosted and judged ATTS events for many years.
http://www.atts.org/

cool site.. I would like to have Romeo tested.... I do not think he is aggressive, however I think he is territorial.. It is like he is a little kid..With his toys. He does not like any one play with them. He wont get mean but he will take them away when you let go of it.. It is like he is saying it mine... ans he sprays on everything that crosses his path. He almost sprayed my best friend.. I need to get him fixed..

 

[happyappygirl]

Neighbor had a minpin/chiwawa/ankle biter of some sort ........... Owners eventually gave him to a relative that had lots of property and no neighbors, kids or delivery people.

see there-in lies the problem. as responsible humans we have the ability to make a choice where animals are concerned. live or die. i don't think it's a responsible thing to pawn off such an aggressive dog regardless of it's size or breed.

I have been personally responsible for the death of one rottie. it was a rescue, placed there (as we later found out) BECAUSE it was territorial, and super aggressive over what it deemed as his, and then adopted out to good folks who really had no clue as to how to deal with a working dog. the dog bit the new owners several times, and brought it to me (without telling me he had bitten THEM over a stick thrown for him), to find out what i thought of it's temperament. i gave it a toy, he dropped it, looked up at me like ok let's play, your turn, i reached for the toy and quick as lightening without warning, he bit through both my hands WHAP-WHAP, causing permanent nerve damage to both pinkie fingers. WRONG answer my friend, good dogs will warn me (i'll listen) - idiots die. Blue juice for you, brought on by me personally.
Who is responsible? the "breeder" and i use the term loosely, who placed the dog, who was prolly dominant, with the WRONG family who never disciplined him for play biting, or food aggression, and look where it ended up. place the blame where it belongs, and do the RIGHT thing. retrain, or blue juice. it's not worth human life or limb. period. any species.

 

[misslady67]

It wasn't the dog that got her, it was the screen door as she was trying to get away!!

And yes, we feel bad about it..

And he LOVES her, imagine if he didn't like her.

Accidents are called that for a reason...they are not intentional. Stuff happens...we learn from it and go forward. NOW...pardon me while I go teach Yetty to use a screen door properly

 

[misslady67]

(dogs only know what they are taught.) That statement is so not true. My neighbor has 2 pits and both are the same age came from the same litter.. Well, The one was really mean and the other was laid back would not hurt a flea.. Even though both dogs were good around their owner the one would snap at a drop of a dime.. I know the owner and they treat these dogs as they were their children. A dog does not have to be abused, to be aggressive. That was just his personality. not to say that PITS are BAD BREEDS. But he had a very aggressive personality. The owner got rid one that one for the fear of not knowing if he will turn on them.. they raise the dog since it was a pup and treated him like a person should treat their pet,, So your theory of the dog has to be abuse to be aggressive is wrong. I feel just like human each dog has it's own traits that they are born with. Not everyone is this world is happy go lucky. Now the owners should be looked into about why the dog was around the kids in the daycare.. I am sorry I do not think it is okay to have a dog around a bunch of kids. A dog can get overwhelm no matter what kind of dog it is.. And younger kids can be rough with dogs... I feel bad for the girl, But I wonder how many kids were their and was the dog in the mixed of all of them..

Ok...I see your point. That's why I said take ownership...know your dog and their disposition. I also said "did the dog have aggressive tendencies in the past" and that is a question all owners need to ask themselves BEFORE they put their dog in a social situation. Bottom line is that an animal still may display unpredictable behavior in any given situation...they're animals not humans. So, as an owner(s) we have the exclusive responsibility of their care and actions...good and bad. Expect the unexpected. My dog is friendly in most situations but try to come in my house or on my property without an invitation by ME and it's on . Keeping this in mind, I know better than to leave a gate unlocked or door open. I am reponsible YES....BUT accidents still happen. That's why I am empathetic to all parties involved.

 

[misslady67]

see there-in lies the problem. as responsible humans we have the ability to make a choice where animals are concerned. live or die. place the blame where it belongs, and do the RIGHT thing. retrain, or blue juice. it's not worth human life or limb. period. any species.

Agreed. People who have pets are ultimately responsible for their actions. I wish more people would educate themselves BEFORE they get pets and there would be less reports of tragedies such as this one.

 

[pixiegirl]

Oh God this crapola is still going on this morning. You know it reminds me (really, it does) of the race issues that people play. I'm a big scarey dog owner myself and as long as people keep making it all about "big scarey breeds" against "the rest" that's how it's going to be looked at. Of course idiots like Masey don't help with their gut wrench "I'll never own a Pit Bull or Mix..." reactions but who gives a crap. Good for it. With an attitude like that I hope it never does.

Part of my job now is a risk manager. Christy and Pandora are perfect examples of people who are have knowledge of risk that they're taking and are willing to take the risk and deal with the potential consequenses. I'm sure that they both know that #1 they can not always control the behavior of their animal and #2 they can not always control the behavior of those that may be around that animal. I was faced with a dog that was a biter. I was unable to assume the same risk. I have much younger children that are not as easy to control. I took that dog to the shelter knowing that he'd likely be euthanized.

My stand is that ANY dog of ANY breed that is vicious should be terminated. Any of you that believe that Pit Bulls are the only dogs that are ever responsible for deaths are foolish. And I pose the question, why is the media the devil and always so biased but in this case so correct? It's not, is your answer.

SBK, Like I said before, I too can take a bowl of food from my dog but if I were to ever draw back a stump it'd be no one's fault but my own. Just because you can does not make it right or wise.

 

[Pandora]

Neighbor had a minpin/chiwawa/ankle biter of some sort that was MEAN! The last time he came near me, he attacked me as soon as I stepped out of the car, and drew blood on my ankle, after biting thru my jeans and sock. He landed on the other side of the yard (50 feet or better) after I kicked him off my leg. This was not the first time he had met me either. I had been to the house probably 20-30 times before. He was so bad the UPS guy wouldn't even drive down the driveway until he had called the owner and said "ok, I am here, lock the little bastard up". Owners eventually gave him to a relative that had lots of property and no neighbors, kids or delivery people.

Last year, I went on a home inspection and a small dog came out the door and started to sniff me. I let it sniff my hand and pet it. Everything was fine.

I turned around to leave and it chased me down the yard, jumped up, bite my pant leg and tore it.

It was one of those little yap yap dogs.

 

[huntr1]

Last year, I went on a home inspection and a small dog came out the door and started to sniff me. I let it sniff my hand and pet it. Everything was fine.

I turned around to leave and it chased me down the yard, jumped up, bite my pant leg and tore it.

It was one of those little yap yap dogs.

I hate yap yap dogs. I have yet to meet one that was not evil incarnate.

 

[Chasey_Lane]

I hate yap yap dogs. I have yet to meet one that was not evil incarnate.

You haven't met mine!

 

[cdsulhoff]

Ok...I see your point. That's why I said take ownership...know your dog and their disposition. I also said "did the dog have aggressive tendencies in the past" and that is a question all owners need to ask themselves BEFORE they put their dog in a social situation. Bottom line is that an animal still may display unpredictable behavior in any given situation...they're animals not humans. So, as an owner(s) we have the exclusive responsibility of their care and actions...good and bad. Expect the unexpected. My dog is friendly in most situations but try to come in my house or on my property without an invitation by ME and it's on . Keeping this in mind, I know better than to leave a gate unlocked or door open. I am responsible YES....BUT accidents still happen. That's why I am empathetic to all parties involved.

I agree with you. I had to tell my neighbor that they did what was best. Because with Jake being so unpredictable he could of attack anyone and she would have gotten in big trouble... Jake was okay with me as long as I was with the owner.. He was a strong protector and did not like anyone coming into their yard. It sucked for me because he though my yard was his as well..They gave the dog to a cousin of their that has land for him to roam and so far no problems. they did not want to put him down or give him to someone who was going to make him worst. He was a very dominate male dog...Now their other Pit is a big baby. He wouldn't hurt a fly.. He loves to play with my little dog and he is very gentle with Romeo. Oh yes Accidents do happen.
My grandma had a German Shepard. He was a very nice guard dog. And Also was good with kids... One day my Grandma neighbor told my cousin Mikey " Wow, that dog is so big you can ride it like a horse".. Yeah smart move on her behalf. Telling a three year old that he can ride the dog.. Well he tried lets just say that Easter we were in the hospital because he bitten him on the face and blood everywhere. MJ was not a bad dog at all. It was that he is not a horse and the bitah should of gotten for telling a kid that...

 

[nomoney]

I agree with you. I had to tell my neighbor that they did what was best. Because with Jake being so unpredictable he could of attack anyone and she would have gotten in big trouble... Jake was okay with me as long as I was with the owner.. He was a strong protector and did not like anyone coming into their yard. It sucked for me because he though my yard was his as well..They gave the dog to a cousin of their that has land for him to roam and so far no problems. they did not want to put him down or give him to someone who was going to make him worst. He was a very dominate male dog...Now their other Pit is a big baby. He wouldn't hurt a fly.. He loves to play with my little dog and he is very gentle with Romeo. Oh yes Accidents do happen.
My grandma had a German Shepard. He was a very nice guard dog. And Also was good with kids... One day my Grandma neighbor told my cousin Mikey " Wow, that dog is so big you can ride it like a horse".. Yeah smart move on her behalf. Telling a three year old that he can ride the dog.. Well he tried lets just say that Easter we were in the hospital because he bitten him on the face and blood everywhere. MJ was not a bad dog at all. It was that he is not a horse and the bitah should of gotten for telling a kid that...

do you talk a lot?

 

[cdsulhoff]

You haven't met mine!

I guess you have not seen my Romeo.. He will bark but he is also afraid of his own shadow... He is a loveable dog.. anyone can come up to him and he will do nothing but love on you...

 

[cdsulhoff]

do you talk a lot?

That's funny My nickname is Gabby...

 

[Masey]

....Part of my job now is a risk manager...

You call me an idiot for not wanting to accept the risks associated with owning a pit bull and then babble on about being a risk manager implying that the risk is acceptable -- WRONG! The statistics are stacked up against your position.

The dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

 

[pixiegirl]

....Part of my job now is a risk manager...

You call me an idiot for not wanting to accept the risks associated with owning a pit bull and then babble on about being a risk manager implying that the risk is acceptable -- WRONG! The statistics are stacked up against your position.

The dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

And we've been through this argument a thousand times over on this board already. #1 those stats are old. #2 they are based on eye witness reports. People today can not even count change at the store. I sure am not going to trust them to make a reliable identification.

If you'd care you can also look up temperment testing and see how the Pit Bull ranked HIGHER then most other "family friendly" dogs. It's a newer study and done with dogs who's breed was determined by experts.

 

[Softballkid]

....Part of my job now is a risk manager...

You call me an idiot for not wanting to accept the risks associated with owning a pit bull and then babble on about being a risk manager implying that the risk is acceptable -- WRONG! The statistics are stacked up against your position.

The dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

That teacher on Charlie Brown, yall sound alike.... atleast now I know, Ill never have to worry about you being at my house with your bullsh*t "bad dogs"

 

[PrepH4U]

They must own a Pomeranian

I have scars on my hand from a so called nice pomeranian! Little effer!
If it happened to me as an adult that little guy would have learned how to wind sail!
This is the same old arguement that comes up often. My feelings, regardless of type of breed, a dog who attacks children is a dog that should be put down. I also have seen dogs that attack w/o provocation, like people, some just have a screw loose.

 

[Softballkid]

American Temperament Testing Society.

http://www.atts.org/

ROTTWEILER 4650 3,834 816 82.5%

Thats better than a Chesapeake Bay Ret. , ALL the wiener dogs, and many more household dogs, and the American PitBull, 83 %....So Pixie has a point, your stats are OLD....