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[puggymom]

should we get into the legal repricussions of anti abortion laws and/or in vitro fertilization?

I'm game =)

You mean like every miscarriage being treated as a potential murder investigation?

 

[This_person]

should we get into the legal repricussions of anti abortion laws and/or in vitro fertilization?

I'm game =)

No, we've played that game before. How about the repurcussions to the child of abortion?

 

[Go G-Men]

Again, my reasoning is not based upon what happened to me. I merely was responding to someone who suggested I had no dog in the fight because I was male.

My opinions come from sound, sober reasoning.

However, your options are interesting. A - Let them screw up, or B - Take on the consequences of their actions for them. Realize, you're still arguing that people not be held responsible for their own actions. Not a good argument.

Not true... Just arguing that you are not "the one, the only"" who should make them accountable.. You, like me, have an opinion... No better or worse than any other.. Just an opinion..

From a personal stand point what do you do (other than pay taxes) to help those that would or may be considering an abortion?

BTW... I am personally against abortion but I do not force my beliefs on others..

 

[This_person]

Wow, anti abortionists pay taxes!! Aren't they just the friggin Modern Day Mother Theresa..

Wasn't Mother Theresa "modern day"? And, no, I wasn't suggesting that. Just answering whether people who believe life is sacred do nothing at all. He was wrong, and so is this suggestion about Mother Theresa.

They also hunt down and kill Doctors, Nurses, and even clerks that are trying to get by and provide for themselves by WORKING. providing a LEGAL service.

And, the ones that do this are as ignorantly wrong and murderous as the abortion itself.

Not impressed, but please, feel free to try again.

Not trying to impress, just dispel inaccurate information.

 

[Xaquin44]

No, we've played that game before. How about the repurcussions to the child of abortion?

well .... I guess two outcomes depending on your religion

1: Heaven
2: the nothingness from whence it was created

and face it, the only reason no one wants to talk about the law side of things is because laws against abortion would be impossible to uphold and are completely immoral.

 

[Xaquin44]

You mean like every miscarriage being treated as a potential murder investigation?

bingo.

 

[puggymom]

BTW... I am personally against abortion but I do not force my beliefs on others..

I know I am being nit picky but very few people are truely for abortion. Pro-choice does not equal pro abortion.

 

[Radiant1]

Said to Bob:

Do you have a living will Bob? If so, why? Surely if you were unable to make the decision of life or death for yourself you'd be OK with someone else making that choice for you, right?

 

[This_person]

I believe that our conscience holds us all accountable. You want them to be accountable to you. This is a free country last I checked and the law as it is now allows for abortions.

Your conscience holds no one accountable. The law is what could do that. And, abortions are legal. For now. I hope that changes.

My suggestion was was made to put a point on all the post saying nobody has the right to abort a fetus.. If we truly want to stop abortions than we have to be willing to go all out....

We are - change the law on killing those babies. That's "all out". Not making non-reproductive based sex illegal. That's dumb.

Do you honestly believe that abortions will stop just because the Federal government changes the law. Not at all... Abortion will always occur and there isn't a damn thing we can do to stop it... Other than outlawing sex of course...

With that logic, nothing should be illegal. I'm not an anarchist, and I wouldn't support that, either.

 

[Go G-Men]

I know I am being nit picky but very few people are truely for abortion. Pro-choice does not equal pro abortion.

Agreed

 

[This_person]

I don't think myself so high and mighty to suggest EVERYONE should be forced to do the same.

I'm not suggesting anyone be forced to have children. Just not kill them. I don't think that's a "high and mighty" suggestion.

 

[Xaquin44]

I'm not suggesting anyone be forced to have children. Just not kill them. I don't think that's a "high and mighty" suggestion.

you're telling each and every woman something she isn't allowed to do with her body ....

 

[Go G-Men]

Your conscience holds no one accountable. The law is what could do that. And, abortions are legal. For now. I hope that changes.We are - change the law on killing those babies. That's "all out". Not making non-reproductive based sex illegal. That's dumb.With that logic, nothing should be illegal. I'm not an anarchist, and I wouldn't support that, either.

Each person is accountable to themselves and those around them... They are not accountable to random folks on a forum.. That would mean you..

Of course outlawing sex is dumb... but thinking you and the rest of the Anti-abortionist will stop abortions is just as ludicrous.

I say take care of your own and let others do the same.

 

[This_person]

Not true... Just arguing that you are not "the one, the only"" who should make them accountable.. You, like me, have an opinion... No better or worse than any other.. Just an opinion..

I don't feel I'm "the one, the only" who should make people accountable. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

From a personal stand point what do you do (other than pay taxes) to help those that would or may be considering an abortion?

I've provided a couple pieces of personal information on here, and you've twisted them to attack me personally for my opinion. I choose to not answer this for that reason. Suffice it to say it's not "nothing", and it's not "adopt every person's baby who would have otherwise had an abortion", but somewhere in between.

BTW... I am personally against abortion but I do not force my beliefs on others..

Are you personally against murder? Would you be able to sit on a jury for a murder case and vote for conviction if the information warrented it?

 

[Go G-Men]

I'm not suggesting anyone be forced to have children. Just not kill them. I don't think that's a "high and mighty" suggestion.

Actually you are not suggesting anything... You are straight telling people who would consider abortion that they are gonna have these children. It is very high and mighty when you want everyone to live by your standards and your standards alone.. The initials JC come to mind...

 

[This_person]

well .... I guess two outcomes depending on your religion

1: Heaven
2: the nothingness from whence it was created

and face it, the only reason no one wants to talk about the law side of things is because laws against abortion would be impossible to uphold and are completely immoral.

So, you choose not to accept my "no" as an answer, huh?

 

[Xaquin44]

So, you choose not to accept my "no" as an answer, huh?

=)

hehe

 

[This_person]

you're telling each and every woman something she isn't allowed to do with her body ....

Nope. I'm suggesting it be illegal to kill a child, even if it's in the most intimate care of the mother. A person chooses what to do with THEIR body, I'm suggesting she has no right to kill the child within her. She chose to put it there, implying a reasonable level of care for the child until it could survive with someone else's care. Anything short of that (ie, intentionally killing the child) is murder at worst, child abuse/negligence at least.

 

[Go G-Men]

I don't feel I'm "the one, the only" who should make people accountable. I have no idea what you're trying to say.I've provided a couple pieces of personal information on here, and you've twisted them to attack me personally for my opinion. I choose to not answer this for that reason. Suffice it to say it's not "nothing", and it's not "adopt every person's baby who would have otherwise had an abortion", but somewhere in between.Are you personally against murder? Would you be able to sit on a jury for a murder case and vote for conviction if the information warrented it?

Absolutely... I can also vote to send them to death row and witness that sentence carried out..

 

[tommyjones]

Absolutely... I can also vote to send them to death row and witness that sentence carried out..

me too. i would have no issue with sending a true murderer to death row.