JRTs are aggressive little bastards, too. (Sorry, Pandora 
) Friends of mine and Larry's have one and that dog is a menace.
) Friends of mine and Larry's have one and that dog is a menace.
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JRTs are aggressive little bastards, too. (Sorry, Pandora
No offense taken and I know they can be.
Wenchy was terrified to come to my house because she doesn't like JRTs at all and was attacked by one prior but she has grown to adore my two and if she didn't know the story of my male JRT's aggression problems (with other dogs) before meeting him, she may not have believed it. I have learned that dogs can turn on a dime, no matter what breed. I seriously thought he had a stroke or some lack of oxygen to his dang brain when he started going after other dogs. Like I said, it was not provoked and was without warning and seriously upset me (and others) so I can completely understand the fear and mind set BayKat and Mike may have felt. There is nothing worse than hearing somebody scream in fear because your dog has decided to go after their dog, not to mention having your neighbors dart their eyes at you because they hate your dog.
unixpirate
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JRTs are aggressive little bastards, too. (Sorry, Pandora
Change your av will ya? It's scaring me.
Cowgirl
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Loper
Animal Poor!
All dogs will take TIME, MONEY, and DEDICATION no matter what the breed, it doesn't matter if it's pure-bred or Mutt! Obviously, some breeds take more or less of those three things than others. Some breeds have traits inherent that some people will take offense too and other people find acceptable. It's the evolution of mans best friend by breeders for the specific traits they wanted the dog to do. YET, dogs are all still pack animals and need a structured pack Hierarchy!
Having said that, it seems to me that UsNavyMike didn't have time for or the inclination to work with PC and PC was obviously the alpha in the house and took that outside. I also find the comment by UsNavyMike that a dog after 5 years of age can't be trained.
He already had a biased view that the dog couldn't be trained because of his age!
I'm not bashing them, they did what they thought they had too, but I think they should have at least contacted the previous owner or Catt stating they were having problems. They KNEW Catt was on the forums!
JMO for what it's worth!
Having said that, it seems to me that UsNavyMike didn't have time for or the inclination to work with PC and PC was obviously the alpha in the house and took that outside. I also find the comment by UsNavyMike that a dog after 5 years of age can't be trained.
He already had a biased view that the dog couldn't be trained because of his age! I'm not bashing them, they did what they thought they had too, but I think they should have at least contacted the previous owner or Catt stating they were having problems. They KNEW Catt was on the forums!
JMO for what it's worth!
unixpirate
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cattitude
My Sweetest Boy
He's a fat Maggie
Not an ounce of fat on that boy. He's just BIG!
unixpirate
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All dogs will take TIME, MONEY, and DEDICATION no matter what the breed, it doesn't matter if it's pure-bred or Mutt! Obviously, some breeds take more or less of those three things than others. Some breeds have traits inherent that some people will take offense too and other people find acceptable. It's the evolution of mans best friend by breeders for the specific traits they wanted the dog to do. YET, dogs are all still pack animals and need a structured pack Hierarchy!
Having said that, it seems to me that UsNavyMike didn't have time for or the inclination to work with PC and PC was obviously the alpha in the house and took that outside. I also find the comment by UsNavyMike that a dog after 5 years of age can't be trained.
I'm not bashing them, they did what they thought they had too, but I think they should have at least contacted the previous owner or Catt stating they were having problems. They KNEW Catt was on the forums!
JMO for what it's worth!
Catt, I love you. Vrail read this! UsNavyMike, read this. Read what Catt has posted!
Millertc watches my now 3 stooges. Do I hear complaints? Hell No! UsNavyMike how much time did you spend with PC? How much time did your wife spend with PC? He was just transported from a home of two years! Lets say you adopted a child! Is their a period of time where you allow them to adjust? Yes!
These animals did not choose to be brought into this life, as your children didn't either!
unixpirate
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cattitude
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krazd_kat
Help "Invisible Dogs"
Having said that, it seems to me that UsNavyMike didn't have time for or the inclination to work with PC and PC was obviously the alpha in the house and took that outside. I also find the comment by UsNavyMike that a dog after 5 years of age can't be trained.
I'm not bashing them, they did what they thought they had too, but I think they should have at least contacted the previous owner or Catt stating they were having problems. They KNEW Catt was on the forums!
JMO for what it's worth!
You spoke my thoughts exactly. I'll have a dog act great w/me, but give it to someone else and suddenly it becomes a dominant dog, it's all a matter of how the dog perceives the person. If they don't think the person is a strong leader, then they, by their nature, will try to fulfill that role, and that's what it sounds like happened in that household.
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unixpirate
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All dogs will take TIME, MONEY, and DEDICATION no matter what the breed, it doesn't matter if it's pure-bred or Mutt! Obviously, some breeds take more or less of those three things than others. Some breeds have traits inherent that some people will take offense too and other people find acceptable. It's the evolution of mans best friend by breeders for the specific traits they wanted the dog to do. YET, dogs are all still pack animals and need a structured pack Hierarchy!
Having said that, it seems to me that UsNavyMike didn't have time for or the inclination to work with PC and PC was obviously the alpha in the house and took that outside. I also find the comment by UsNavyMike that a dog after 5 years of age can't be trained.
I'm not bashing them, they did what they thought they had too, but I think they should have at least contacted the previous owner or Catt stating they were having problems. They KNEW Catt was on the forums!
JMO for what it's worth!
Loper you did good! Catt told me to say that!
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Bay_Kat
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This will be the last time I post on this subject. I guess we've established that Mike and I were wrong not to contact Catt or the previous owner, but if anyone here was in the situation I was in who knows what you would have done. A freaking out crying woman with a puppy you're not sure if it's hurt or not, her husband threatening to kill your dog and a crying kid that was just pushed down by a huge dog.
I did talk to my neighbor, she said the puppy is fine although he does not want to go outside any more, starts to shake really bad when she tries to take him out.
As far as spending time with PC, either my husband or I were always here. The dog was pretty much our life while we were helping him adjust to his new place so much so that my cats were being ignored, but they're cats and didn't really care. Believe me, he got tons of attention and affection.
To the person that said PC was protecting what is his, I don't see a woman and her puppy walking in the street in front of my house as a threat so I think that comment made no sense.
Like I said, this is the last post I'll do on this, it's done, can't be undone and posting all day long won't change the outcome.
I did talk to my neighbor, she said the puppy is fine although he does not want to go outside any more, starts to shake really bad when she tries to take him out.
As far as spending time with PC, either my husband or I were always here. The dog was pretty much our life while we were helping him adjust to his new place so much so that my cats were being ignored, but they're cats and didn't really care. Believe me, he got tons of attention and affection.
To the person that said PC was protecting what is his, I don't see a woman and her puppy walking in the street in front of my house as a threat so I think that comment made no sense.
Like I said, this is the last post I'll do on this, it's done, can't be undone and posting all day long won't change the outcome.
4d2008
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tommyjones
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Exactly
the beatng the dead horse part is where these rescue idiots are again putting blame on mike and bay, when it should have been placed on the person who gave him away without adaquetly explaining to the new owners that this dog has aggression issues.
you guys have completely ignored that this dog attacked 3 differnt times. that is a pattern that can not be ignored, yet all you amatuer Ceaser millian can do is cry about alpha dogs and a bunch of BS. from what mike and bay have said this dog is not the super nice dog you re all making him out to be. he is the dog that needs a lot of work as was indicated even by jwwb when she said she had to 'work with him' and give him treats when she introduced him to his new owners. I dont think a dog you have to distract when he meets his new owners so he isn't aggressive is a dog that is ready to be rehomed unless you make full disclousre.
from this:
krazd kat said:
it doesn't sound like the peole who have him now intend to let the potential owners know about the attacks that happened while this dog ws in mike and bay's care
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4d2008
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it doesn't sound like the peole who have him now intend to let the potential owners know about the attacks that happened while this dog ws in mike and bay's care[/QUOTE]
I know EXACTLY what your saying but Im pretty sure nothing is going to change. If the place has deemed this dog to not be a threat then it is going to be placed back out into another family even with these posts. If you truly do have a huge issue with this dog maybe instead of posting it here you should be calling the place and giving them your input on the entire story like the other people did (trying to get him into a new home). From what Ive read many people have called (wherever) and asked them to please not kill him he is a good dog and needs a home. Now other then posting your opinion here what have you done to make sure the dog Doesnt get into a home? If the dog is a threat I hope it doesnt make another mistake and if its not I do hope he finds his last home.
Don't worry about it, Bay Kat. It's not your fault that the dog had behavior problems - part of it's his breed and the other part is him being shuffled around so much. I notice nobody wants to jump on JWWB for her part in the shuffling, but they'll sure jump on you and get all self-righteous because you didn't want to deal with a PITA maniac dog. Like somehow *you're* a bad person for giving him up, yet the person who gave him up first is some freakin' saint.
Don't worry about it, Bay Kat. It's not your fault that the dog had behavior problems - part of it's his breed and the other part is him being shuffled around so much. I notice nobody wants to jump on JWWB for her part in the shuffling, but they'll sure jump on you and get all self-righteous because you didn't want to deal with a PITA maniac dog. Like somehow *you're* a bad person for giving him up, yet the person who gave him up first is some freakin' saint.
He went to one other home and it didn't work out. How is that being "shuffled" around from house to house to house?